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#1 BaqiyatullahY

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 12:27 PM

(salam)  brothers and sisters,

I have this idea since a few days, about creating a SC Hafiz Society.

I won't mention, all the hadiths/benefits about memorizing the Quran or starting any debate here about the importance of understanding the Quran. This topic is only for memorization tips/advice/methods, to stay motivated, to report every day our progress and encourage each other.

This thread is not mine, it's yours, and it's destiny depends on you guys. If no one is interested, it will ended soon.. :no:
Inshallah we will begin on the 1st Rajab as it's an important date for an important change in your life. It will be easier to remember in the future when you started this project.
So you have a few days to be prepared, to invite all your friends and take part to this big program.

We should learn about 5 ayats per day (depends on you of course) which means 150 ayats a month. If we start in Rajab, we should have learned 300 ayats finish the first two surah before the beginning of Ramadhan.

Here is a few topics about Quran memorization methodes/benefits/hadiths you might need to read: You can now bookmark this amaizing website: http://quran.al-shia.org/  

and this fabulous tafsir Al-Mizan: http://www.shiasource.com/al-mizan/

We will Inshallah, start by the beginning, with sourat Al-Fatiha and then sourat Al-Baqarah. Why ?  if we memorize it completely, it's like we pass a psychological/moral barrier as this Surah is know as the longuest/hardest surah. When we will reach the end of this surah, nothing could stop us to finish the whole Quran Inshallah.
Why did i mentionned surah al Fatiha as everyone know it ? well it depends on which methods you're gonna use for memorization as some people learn by reciting backwards (one of the best). As a great sheikh said, even if  everyone knows this surah and recite it a few times a day, most people are not capable of reciting it in reverse, starting by the end (you can try it now if you want..).

Remember,in order to start learning Quran by heart:
  • You need to have a proper "makhraj" and "tajweed" (see this thread: http://www.shiachat....__fromsearch__1)
  • I would recommend you to get a Quran where the ayats end at the bottom of the page ( which is the case in most Othmani script, not in all indo/paki script).
  • You should use the same quran because it's important for your visual memory.
  • Listening Qari helps a lot. So i would recomment you to get those ios/android apps for listening quran everywhere at any time.
Android:
https://play.google....e=search_result
https://play.google....e=search_result

iOs (iphone/ipad/ipod touch)
http://itunes.apple....d314099174?mt=8

You can also download full Quran for you Blackberry, tablets, android, pc/mac etc..
here: http://quran.mursil....loads/pdf-files
  • You can find all other remarks and advices on links listed above
  • One important thing, is to keep yourself away from sins as it decreases your memory  and it will be harder to learn Quran. Let's make the 1st Rajab a new breath in our life,  let's begin a revolution (inqilab) in our heart, let's prepare ourselves for Shar-ul-Ramadhan and Laylat-ul-Qadr and let's see the result.
Finally, I would like to thank a great SC user and a Mu'mina, who gave me her full support and her encouragement, i won't put her name, she will recognize herself. May Allah (swt) accept all her duas, bring success in her life and her studies, increase her levels and her place near Allah (swt) and rewards her for all her effort. Ameen

P.s: As i'm french, and my english is really poor, i seek for your apologize for all the mistakes i made (and i will make), Feel free to correct me.

Edit: i forgot to add, we could meet sometimes on SC tchat to test each other in live,..

Sooooo, who's in ? :D

Edited by cendrillon, 17 May 2012 - 12:33 PM.

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بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ ۚ وَمَآ أَنَا۠ عَلَيْكُم بِحَفِيظٍۢ


"What remains with Allah is better for you if you are believers, and I am not a keeper over you"

[Hud 11:86]


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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:23 PM

Salamu3alaykum

My memory is really bad but I think this is a great idea I'd love to try, I'm in!

:)

And I tried reading the Fatiha backwards, I failed, read the last three what then got completely lost

Anyway this should be good inshallah it goes well


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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:20 PM

très bonne idée

everyone should be in :)

even if it's a small bit of memorization .. it's really good for the brain

students who have a good memory are always the most successful one's .

Edited by -Enlightened, 17 May 2012 - 02:20 PM.

بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ

What remains with Allah (Baqiyatullah) is better for you if you are believers.. (Hud : 86)

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 03:18 PM

Brother this is an awesome idea!!!

But i can't read Arabic :( being a revert sucks! I'm learning inshAllah but I still want to try this you guys and inshAllah we can all memorise Quran :D

May Allah reward you :)
Ps. Sorry if you are a Sis, I didn't check you page :P
Imam Ja`far as-Sadiq [a] said:


"For everything there is weighing and measuring except tears. One tear drop can extinguish oceans of fire. If the eyes flood with tears, the face will not suffer hardship and humiliation. When tears flow out, Allah forbids them from the Fire. And if a person weeps in a nation, such nation will receive favors."


(al-Kafi, Volume 2, hadith 3113)


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Posted 17 May 2012 - 03:28 PM

I have a suggestion:

Ayatullah Marashi Najafi in his will said that after each of the following prayers, the following surahs should be recited:


Fajr: sura Yaseen

Dhuhr: Sura Naba

Asr: Sura Asr

Maghrib: Sura Waqiah

Isha: sura Mulk




So how bout we focus on these surahs first so we can carry out these instructions?

sura asr i think most of us know. sura yaseen shouldnt be too hard as im sure most of the verses are jumbled in our heads and we just need to sort them out. naba couldnt take more then a week. Sura mulk is the same, 30 ayats no problem.

Sura waqiah isnt that hard either to be honest.

Edited by La fata illa Ali, 17 May 2012 - 03:29 PM.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 03:41 PM

Brother how would you like to memorise? This is your thread so I think it's best to let you decide and we call all do it together :)

Should we start memorising the smaller Surahs, like the Meccan ones at the back? Or do you want to go straight onto Surah Baqarah?

Btw if you can't read Arabic will that be a big problem for trying to memorise the Qur'an? Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I really want to do this but I am worried about the language barrier ATM :( so far I havnt had issues memorising smaller Surahs but for bigger Surahs I think I might...
Imam Ja`far as-Sadiq [a] said:


"For everything there is weighing and measuring except tears. One tear drop can extinguish oceans of fire. If the eyes flood with tears, the face will not suffer hardship and humiliation. When tears flow out, Allah forbids them from the Fire. And if a person weeps in a nation, such nation will receive favors."


(al-Kafi, Volume 2, hadith 3113)


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 12:37 PM

(salam)
@ La fata illa Ali
Well as you said these surah are not complicated to learn.. But i'm pretty sure, if you read them every day, by the end of Ramadhan you will memorize them without trying to learn, just by reading.

@ Ali:  i found this post on the net:

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Can you read with Tajweed?
That should be your main concern first
For this learn MUKHARIJ.... it is THE most important thing concerning tajweed and reciting Quran... once you have done this slowly learn basic simple arabic words... BASIC... when you learn Mukharij you will probably learn them anyways...
When you learn Tajweed and the rules, LEARN the Arabic terms for the rule and it's meaning... THIS will help...
trust me learning Mukharij and Tajweed and there terms/names in Arabic it will help you tremendously... It will give you a firm foundation.... you will start picking up words in the Quran and its meaning...
and ..

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every day memorize one ayat
and on each day repeat the previous verses along with the new one.
Also, read the enlgish while the arabic and you might be able to link the arabic ones.
there should be words that relate for each verse and its previous.
This thread should help you..
http://www.shiachat....__fromsearch__1

To everyone,
This thread is yours, so i won't decide what you have to learn.

It's up to you guys, if you want to read 5 verses/day, it's your choice, If you want to learn One page a day, that's great. The most intelligent guy i know, used to learn 2 pages a day, one in the morning, and one in the night.

My personnal objectif, would be 1 page per day.

You can also try 3 ayats after each salat (namaz), which means 15 ayats a day.

So every one have to chose his own goal. If you want to start by the end, it's not a problem, some hafiz used to learn the last 3 juzz and then start by the begining, etc.. The result is the same, you will learn Quran by heart.

I recommend you take to take an achievable and feasible aim. Most of you should be on holiday soon, if you want to learn for 3hours/day, how would you do iafter classes begin? Take a rational objectif, you can apply it during holiday, or school day, or exam day, everyday ! Otherwise, your gonna fail, stop and abandon soon.

Personally, i will start by the beginning.. The goal of this thread is to find inspiration, motivation, help, advice, etc.. not to impose you what to do. I'm pretty sure, most of you tried one day to learn a bunch of surah then abandon due to lack of motivation, or you couldn't find any teacher in your area or for other reasons.

One important thing i forgot to mention, is to review like once a week what you've learned. Otherwise, you will forget the begining. When you are reviewing the last juzz you've learned, you can change recite with a different nyat (intention) like reciting for our Imam (aj) and in the same way contributing to  this thread:
http://www.shiachat....__fromsearch__1
You can also recite a juzz for ayatullahs. There are many benefits and i don't know them all, but for example, if you recite 1 juzz for an Ayatullah, his Rouh is going to make duas for you !! Imagine Khomeiny/Bahjat, .. doing duas for you, great right?  You can also do other a'mals with the same intention, like doing a Nyaz at mosque, and you will see some results in your life (Inshallah)

BTW, countdown before 1st Rajab: D-3 ^_^

Edited by cendrillon, 18 May 2012 - 12:41 PM.

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بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ ۚ وَمَآ أَنَا۠ عَلَيْكُم بِحَفِيظٍۢ


"What remains with Allah is better for you if you are believers, and I am not a keeper over you"

[Hud 11:86]


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 12:58 PM

Oh SC Hafiz Society...

I thought it was about the poetry of Hafiz of Shiraz. I had a few ghazals ready to post :(

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 02:01 AM

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View PostMarbles, on 18 May 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

Oh SC Hafiz Society...

I thought it was about the poetry of Hafiz of Shiraz. I had a few ghazals ready to post :(
You're the second guy telling me this.. You should create a thread for this great poet  ;)


Dear Brothers and Sisters, as you know, today is the 1st Rajab, and the beginning of our new plan which is memorize the Quran :!!!:

So i request everyone, to put your aim, and a daily report  here to show your progress and encourage each other.

For the next two weeks, i have my exams, thus i will start slowly, and then i will continue with 1page/day.

Today, Day 1: i'm focusing my learning on reciting Surah Fatiha backwards. On every sunday, i will review what i've learned during the week.

What about you ?

Edited by cendrillon, 23 May 2012 - 02:01 AM.

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بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ ۚ وَمَآ أَنَا۠ عَلَيْكُم بِحَفِيظٍۢ


"What remains with Allah is better for you if you are believers, and I am not a keeper over you"

[Hud 11:86]


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Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:42 AM

View Postcendrillon, on 23 May 2012 - 02:01 AM, said:

(salam)

You're the second guy telling me this.. You should create a thread for this great poet  ;)


Dear Brothers and Sisters, as you know, today is the 1st Rajab, and the beginning of our new plan which is memorize the Quran :!!!:

So i request everyone, to put your aim, and a daily report  here to show your progress and encourage each other.

For the next two weeks, i have my exams, thus i will start slowly, and then i will continue with 1page/day.

Today, Day 1: i'm focusing my learning on reciting Surah Fatiha backwards. On every sunday, i will review what i've learned during the week.

What about you ?

Rajab was yesterday for me :/ my Calender says Rajab (1st) was yesterday, so today is now 2nd of Rajab....

Anywayyyyyyy... I am currently learning Surah Zilzalah. So far I have basically memorised all but the last two Ayats of the Surah :D

I will review what I have learnt during the week on Friday nights as that is when I go to the Masjid and with one Brother who is also teaching me how to read Quran, I review what I have learnt with him so he can fix/correct my mistakes ect. Since last Friday I have memorised Surah falaq and inshAllah by Friday I will have Zilzalah don't as well :)
Imam Ja`far as-Sadiq [a] said:


"For everything there is weighing and measuring except tears. One tear drop can extinguish oceans of fire. If the eyes flood with tears, the face will not suffer hardship and humiliation. When tears flow out, Allah forbids them from the Fire. And if a person weeps in a nation, such nation will receive favors."


(al-Kafi, Volume 2, hadith 3113)


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Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:55 AM

1st Rajab should be today for you according to this website: http://moonsighting.com/1433rjb.html
Btw, in Islam the night is before the day which mean, tuesday 22 night was 1st rajab, et wednesday 23 is the day ..

Edited by cendrillon, 23 May 2012 - 03:57 AM.

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بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ ۚ وَمَآ أَنَا۠ عَلَيْكُم بِحَفِيظٍۢ


"What remains with Allah is better for you if you are believers, and I am not a keeper over you"

[Hud 11:86]


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Posted 23 May 2012 - 04:11 AM

salam

i memorized volum of Amme long ago ,plan is to revise this volume -30th juz'e- today , start with the 29th juz'e tomorrow ? with chapter of Mulk

Today:
1-surat ikhlas - surat nas - surat falaq -surat masad- surat nasr - surat maaoon -surat kawthar- surat kaferoon -surat asr- surat humaza - surat fil- surat quraish- surat takathur - surat qadr  << done

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:07 AM

View PostChaotic Muslem, on 23 May 2012 - 04:11 AM, said:

salam

i memorized volum of Amme long ago ,plan is to revise this volume -30th juz'e- today , start with the 29th juz'e tomorrow ? with chapter of Mulk

Today:
1-surat ikhlas - surat nas - surat falaq -surat masad- surat nasr - surat maaoon -surat kawthar- surat kaferoon -surat asr- surat humaza - surat fil- surat quraish- surat takathur - surat qadr  << done

Brother did you memorise all the obove Surah's mentioned? :o

If so, MashAllah, that is amazing!! May Allah reward you immensely :)

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1st Rajab should be today for you according to this website: http://moonsighting.com/1433rjb.html
Btw, in Islam the night is before the day which mean, tuesday 22 night was 1st rajab, et wednesday 23 is the day ..

Thanks so much for that Brother. Yeh this is odd. Idk why but the Calender says 23rd May and also says 2nd Rajab... I will speak to the Imam on friday inshAllah. Perhaps there is a Shia/Sunni difference on this matter? Because I got it from my Masjid who are all Sunni.
Imam Ja`far as-Sadiq [a] said:


"For everything there is weighing and measuring except tears. One tear drop can extinguish oceans of fire. If the eyes flood with tears, the face will not suffer hardship and humiliation. When tears flow out, Allah forbids them from the Fire. And if a person weeps in a nation, such nation will receive favors."


(al-Kafi, Volume 2, hadith 3113)


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Posted 23 May 2012 - 06:08 AM

View PostAli ':)', on 23 May 2012 - 05:07 AM, said:

Brother did you memorise all the obove Surah's mentioned? :o

If so, MashAllah, that is amazing!! May Allah reward you immensely :)



Thanks so much for that Brother. Yeh this is odd. Idk why but the Calender says 23rd May and also says 2nd Rajab... I will speak to the Imam on friday inshAllah. Perhaps there is a Shia/Sunni difference on this matter? Because I got it from my Masjid who are all Sunni.

salamz
those surahs are short and easy , you should memorize at least 5 of them for your everyday use

surat ikhlas , or surat tawheed , it is recomneded to be recited three times before going to bed , who recite it three times is as if he recited teh whole quraan

surat nas and surat falaq , those are known as mo'awathatain , you recite them when you are scared and you seek protection

surat qadr is recited alot during teh month of ramadhan

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:10 AM

View PostChaotic Muslem, on 23 May 2012 - 06:08 AM, said:



salamz
those surahs are short and easy , you should memorize at least 5 of them for your everyday use

surat ikhlas , or surat tawheed , it is recomneded to be recited three times before going to bed , who recite it three times is as if he recited teh whole quraan

surat nas and surat falaq , those are known as mo'awathatain , you recite them when you are scared and you seek protection

surat qadr is recited alot during teh month of ramadhan

Wow Brother that's awesome. Can you speak Arabic?
I am a revert and do not speak or read Arabic so it's hard for me as I have to learn online by myself.

Can you please share your method of how you memorise Quran?
Imam Ja`far as-Sadiq [a] said:


"For everything there is weighing and measuring except tears. One tear drop can extinguish oceans of fire. If the eyes flood with tears, the face will not suffer hardship and humiliation. When tears flow out, Allah forbids them from the Fire. And if a person weeps in a nation, such nation will receive favors."


(al-Kafi, Volume 2, hadith 3113)


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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:34 AM

(bismillah)

This may make it easier to memorize, it has helped me, al-Hamdulillah.

http://www.shiachat....art-of-a-surah/

And this Fatwa from Sayed Sistani [ha]:

( مسألة ۲۸٦ ) : لا بأس بقراءة الحمد والسورة في المصحف في الفرائض والنوافل ، سواء أتمكّن من الحفظ أو الائتمام ، أو المتابعة للقارئ أم لم يتمكّن من ذلك ، وإن كان ــ الأحوط استحباباً ــ الاقتصار في ذلك على حال الاضطرار ، ولا بأس بقراءة الأدعية والأَذكار في القنوت وغيره في المصحف وغيره


Rough partial Translation: There is no problem with reciting al-Hamd and the surah in (from) the MusHaf (Qur'an) in the obligatory and voluntary prayers. Whether it is possible to memorize or follow or follow a reciter or it is not possible. ...

From his Istiftaa'aat:

السؤال :

هل يجوز قراءة السور من المصحف أثناء الصلاة؟

الجواب :

يجوز.


Question: Is it permissible to recite suras from the Mushaf while in Salaah?
Answer: It is permissible.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:45 AM

http://www.alquran-n...yfa/5.htm

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 09:32 PM

View PostDar, on 23 May 2012 - 07:34 AM, said:

(bismillah)

This may make it easier to memorize, it has helped me, al-Hamdulillah.
(salam)
Did you learn all the Quran ?


Daily report:
Day 2: Page 2 with the begining of surah Al Baqara + reciting backwards

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بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ ۚ وَمَآ أَنَا۠ عَلَيْكُم بِحَفِيظٍۢ


"What remains with Allah is better for you if you are believers, and I am not a keeper over you"

[Hud 11:86]


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Posted 23 May 2012 - 09:40 PM

(bismillah)

View Postcendrillon, on 23 May 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

(salam)
Did you learn all the Quran ?
(wasalam)

No, not yet. Inshaa'Allah one day. I am trying to memorize right now, however.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 03:24 PM

salamu3alaykum

im not the best at memorising so im going slow, so that i can memorise properly and with out over burdening myslef and just giving up,
but alhamdulliah yesturday i memorised the first 4 ayat of suhrah al baqarah.

i was so happy when i finnaly memorised them :D its so good wallah!

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 03:30 PM

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View PostShiashiashia!, on 24 May 2012 - 03:24 PM, said:

salamu3alaykum

im not the best at memorising so im going slow, so that i can memorise properly and with out over burdening myslef and just giving up,
but alhamdulliah yesturday i memorised the first 4 ayat of suhrah al baqarah.

i was so happy when i finnaly memorised them :D its so good wallah!
(wasalam)

Maa Shaa Allah `alayk! A good way to keep this ayaat memorized is to repeat them in salaah.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 06:30 PM

View PostShiashiashia!, on 24 May 2012 - 03:24 PM, said:

salamu3alaykum

im not the best at memorising so im going slow, so that i can memorise properly and with out over burdening myslef and just giving up,
but alhamdulliah yesturday i memorised the first 4 ayat of suhrah al baqarah.

i was so happy when i finnaly memorised them :D its so good wallah!

That is very good, Good luck i am hope less in memorising long suhrah. but i can memorise short ones
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 06:33 PM

View Postcendrillon, on 23 May 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

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Day 2: Page 2 with the begining of surah Al Baqara + reciting backwards
I do not recommend this style of memorizing.

Majority of hifdh teachers would recommend you start from the latter ajzaa', such as doing Juzz `Amma (30), Juzz Tabarak (29) and the 28th Juzz. That way you can master your memorization technique, so then you can implement it in the larger suwar (pl. of surah).

Also, this helps psychologically, It will be better for you confidence. Depending on if you are doing part-time or full-time memorization, you could be in Surah al-Baqarah for months, as opposed to being done with about 30-40suwar. So when you look back on your months, you will have 30+ surahs under your belt as opposed to just one.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:15 AM

Hamdellah I've memorised another three ayat, so I've memories the first seven so far...

By the rate I'm going I'll be finished the surah in 2055 :P

But oh well slow and steady wins the race right ?


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Posted 27 May 2012 - 12:40 AM

ok so al-hamdellah i have memorized   the first 10 ayat of surah al baqarah

View PostNader Zaveri, on 24 May 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

I do not recommend this style of memorizing.

Majority of hifdh teachers would recommend you start from the latter ajzaa', such as doing Juzz `Amma (30), Juzz Tabarak (29) and the 28th Juzz. That way you can master your memorization technique, so then you can implement it in the larger suwar (pl. of surah).

Also, this helps psychologically, It will be better for you confidence. Depending on if you are doing part-time or full-time memorization, you could be in Surah al-Baqarah for months, as opposed to being done with about 30-40suwar. So when you look back on your months, you will have 30+ surahs under your belt as opposed to just one.

(salam)

i do think that this is a better idea, if only i had started from the smaller chapters first, i may change but im one of those people that either finishes the thing of just gives up completely so let see how i go lol, but yeh your right the way you mentioned would be much better.



how else is everyone going?



i have come to realize that the memorization of the actual ayah is not to much of a problem for me but rather the memorization of the specific pronunciation  is what muggles me up, like to memorize the ayah is easy but to remember weather its "la" or "li" is more of the harder part for me.

what about everyone else thats memorizing what have you found?
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