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[shia4life669]

Well i just discovered a couple of days ago that Prophet muhammed was illetrite!!! and found intresting that it was the shabah who wrote the quran like abu bakur and imam ali. And later found out abu bakur denied the quran imam ali compiled.
So this question comes up why did abu bakur deny the quran imam ali compiled?

[ThE-Samz]

Well i just discovered a couple of days ago that Prophet muhammed was illetrite!!! and found intresting that it was the shabah who wrote the quran like abu bakur and imam ali. And later found out abu bakur denied the quran imam ali compiled.
So this question comes up why did abu bakur deny the quran imam ali compiled?

wheres the references or narrations that indicate abu bakr denied the Qur'an imam Ali compiled??

[Chaotic Muslem]

<pre>
After he compiled this transcript, Imam Ali took it and presented it
to the rulers who came after the Holy Prophet, and said: &quot;Here is the book
of Allah, your Lord, in the order that was revealed to your Prophet.&quot;
but they did not accept it and replied: &quot;We have no need of this. We have
with us what you possess.&quot; Thereupon, Imam Ali took the transcript
back and informed them that they will never see it again. It is reported
that Imam Ali recited the latter part of the following verse of Quran:

&quot;And when Allah took a Covenant from the People of the Book to
clarify it to mankind and not to hide its (clarification); but
they threw it away behind their backs and purchased with it some
miserable gain! and what an evil was the bargain they made!&quot;
(Quran 3:187)</pre>
<p>http://www.al-islam....ter8/4.html</p>
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<p>When Imam &#39;Ali (A.S.) entered the Prophet&#39;s Mosque with the Qur&#39;an, the sahabah asked him what had brought him after the intermission that occurred with the passing away of the Messenger of Allah. The Imam placed before them the Qur&#39;an he had compiled, and reminding them of the Hadith al-Thaqalayn pointed out to them the unbreakable bond between the Book of Allah and the Ahl al-Bayt, by quoting the Prophet&#39;s words: &quot;Inni mukhallif fikum ma in tamaskatum bihi lan-tazillu, Kitab Allah wa &#39;Itrati (Indeed I am leaving among you that which well prevent you from going astray if you hold fast to it, the Book of Allah and my posterity).&quot; The Imam added: &quot;wa haha al-Kitab wa ana al-&#39;Itrah (and this is the Book (of Allah) and I am (of his) posterity.&quot;(15)<br />
At this stage &#39;Umar bin al-Khattab got up and said what we with the words that what the sahabah had of the Qur&#39;an was sufficient.(16)</p>
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[power]

Well i just discovered a couple of days ago that Prophet muhammed was illetrite!!! and found intresting that it was the shabah who wrote the quran like abu bakur and imam ali. And later found out abu bakur denied the quran imam ali compiled.
So this question comes up why did abu bakur deny the quran imam ali compiled?

Salaam brother

The reason they rejected Imam Ali copy, it had commentary of every single ayat that was reviled, it also the showed the true position of the Ahli- Bhait

[Ibrahim786]

Well i just discovered a couple of days ago that Prophet muhammed was illetrite!!! and found intresting that it was the shabah who wrote the quran like abu bakur and imam ali. And later found out abu bakur denied the quran imam ali compiled.
So this question comes up why did abu bakur deny the quran imam ali compiled?

what?? - i thought the shias now accept the quran the sahabahs complied is the true on only quran. oh dear oh dear - the hatred for the sahabahs can lead people astray

[Shia_Debater]

what?? - i thought the shias now accept the quran the sahabahs complied is the true on only quran. oh dear oh dear - the hatred for the sahabahs can lead people astray

We do accept the Qur'an, this idea that we don't is a misconception.

[Ibrahim786]

We do accept the Qur'an, this idea that we don't is a misconception.

you need to read the posts before mine

[Shia_Debater]

you need to read the posts before mine

We believe Imam Ali compiled the Qur'an too, but that doesn't mean we believe what is in the Qur'an has changed, just the order in which it was compiled in.

[Ameen]

what?? - i thought the shias now accept the quran the sahabahs complied is the true on only quran. oh dear oh dear - the hatred for the sahabahs can lead people astray

The love for the Sahaba to such a manner, that you start to consider each and every Sahabi as an angel, to believe they never ever put a foot wrong, can also lead you astray.

[adnan121]

rem the words of ali "who ever thought me a word in this world is my teacher " do you know the writes of teacher ? learn for imam jaffir a sadiq !

now do you know ali only learned from prophet

Now do you understand prophet wasnt illiterate! (he would have to respect teacher if he would have learned from a teacher ) now even a teacher has to respect the last prophet pbuh

hope you guys understand ..wht i m trying to say !

[power]

Shia "DO NOT ACCEPT THE SAHABAHS COMPLIED THE QURAN " we only accept that Uthmam united the Muslims upon one mode of recitation, Shia acknowledged more authentic tradition about THAQALAIN which leaves us with no doubt that the quran existed in complete book form.

[Kaniz e Zahra]

Nauzbillah,if PROPHET(SAWW)was illiterate how did He sign treaty of Hudaybia,and write letters to non-muslim kings???so make correction