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I just needed to bring in attention that , I am seeing so many shia hadees are givin as reference by our sunni brothers to support there argument ? and most of the sunni youth that copy these hadees in oder to debate with shias come from these sites
1)http://[Edited Out]/
2) www.yasoob.org
i will show inshallah how a person comes to me n put forth these shia hadess to say
Imam Ali
Was NOt Forced To Give Bayat! and then tries to prove abouth sahabies n so on .....but before i put this please a request to my brothers get these hadees from these sites as many as you can ,which are there and then answer them as many as you can ....mmmm many shias will be trying to find out n get confused and trust me these are new consepets they have brought so no one has written much about it + its very hard to find them from books as some books have not been translated in English and some books are hard to find..plz respond to this ?
iii) PROOF FROM SHIA BOOKS ABOUT SAHABIS
PROOF # 1 ==>
From Musa bin Jafar from his fathers who said: The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: There will be 4 generations, the best of generations is the one in which I am living, then the second, then the third [Biharul Anwar Volume:22 Page:309]
PROOF # 2 ==>
We read in the famous Shia book ‘Muruj al zahab’ by Masudi that Abdullah ibn Abbas [r.a] said:
Indeed Allah is the One with pure names, who bestowed His Prophet Muhammad [s] with such Sahaba who sacrificed their lives and wealth on him , and left everyone accept him. The God Almighty mentioned their qualities in the Holy Quran in the words ‘compassionate amongst themselves’ [Muruj al zahab, Vol. 3, p. 52]
PROOF # 3 ==>
Shia scholar Sheikh Saduq in his book “Khisal” narrated:
28-5 Ahmad ibn Zyad ibn Ja’far al-Hamedany – may God be pleased with him – narrated that Ali ibn Ibrahim ibn Hashim quoted his father, on the authority of Muhammad ibn Abi Umayr, on the authority of Hisham ibn Salim that Aba Abdullah as-Sadiq (alaihi salam) said, “There were twelve-thousand companions for God’s Prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ali). Eight-thousand of them were from Medina, two-thousand of them were from Mecca and another two-thousand of them were the free atheist who had become Muslims.
AND LOOK HOW HE CONFIRMS THAT NONE OF THOSE SAHABIS WERE KHARIJITES OR SOME DEVIANT INNOVATORS ==>
...cont => There were no Qadarites, Marajites, Kharajites, Mo’tazelites, nor any who act according to their own opinions. They cried day and night and said, ‘O God! Please take away our souls before we eat barley bread”.
PROOF # 4 ==>
Shia scholar Majlisi has narrated from Tusi who has narrated a Muwathaq tradition, from Ali that he said “I order you regarding the companions of the Prophet (s) , don’t criticize them, because they are the companions of your Prophet (s). They are his companions, they didn’t start any bidah in the religion, nor given honor to any innovator. Yes! The Prophet (s) has ordered me regarding them.
Hayat ul Qulub , Vol. 2, p. 621
PROOF # 5==>
[Nahjul Balagha, sermon 96]
PROOF # 6 ==>
Sahabs were honest and truthfull ==>
[Kulayni narrated in his “al-Kafi” (1/65), and Majlisi said it’s hasan (good)]
PROOF #7 ==>
(Al-Ka'fi 2/191, section, Rearing of the Believers)
HERE IS A MESSAGE FROM MOHAMMAD (S.A.W) TO YOU ==>
Prophet(saw) said: If you see those who criticize my companions, say to them “May the curse of Allah be on the evil of you” (sunan tirmidi #3866) Similar is present in Jamia sagheer(637)
plese respond as much as you can ....! jazak Allah va khair .. the main thing is get these hadees and post them and see where the footnotes are missing ? see how they manipulate these hadees ...!how they use only some part of it n ferget the rest ? some of them are week ? and some of them are not for those who they try to say ! inshallah it will be easy for other shia brothers or sisters who find about these hadees inoder to debate .
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