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#1 Fink

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 08:36 PM

SAW SCALE VIPER

Use extreme caution when visiting the southern region and stay vigilant for this highly venomous snake

It can be identified by the arrow shaped marking on top of it's head:


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General description: The saw-scaled viper rarely exceeds 2 feet and averages only about 18 to 20 inches. It is highly variable in color and pattern. Typically it has a brown or tan ground color, although it may also be gray or reddish. The snake’s dorsum has one to three rows of dark blotches with light centers. The snake may be striped or display a wave pattern on the sides.





ALWAYS ASSUME SNAKES ARE VENOMOUS , EVEN IF YOU KNOW THEY MAY BE HARMLESS

Edited by Fink, 23 April 2012 - 09:20 PM.


#2 ShiaBen

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 08:43 PM

Fink do you like snakes?

We have Pacific Rattlers here in California.

As long as you don't touch them, sometimes even when you're point blank, they ignore you.

But can't generalize that to all vipers including rattle snakes, some bite if you're within a feet.

lol use to make things up and tell my friend that there are rattle snakes "here" there" and over "there" and this guy would get extremely paranoid.

Meanwhile they were sparsely located a few miles more down in the other direction.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 08:57 PM

View PostShiaBen, on 23 April 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

Fink do you like snakes?

We have Pacific Rattlers here in California.

As long as you don't touch them, sometimes even when you're point blank, they ignore you.

But can't generalize that to all vipers including rattle snakes, some bite if you're within a feet.

lol use to make things up and tell my friend that there are rattle snakes "here" there" and over "there" and this guy would get extremely paranoid.

Meanwhile they were sparsely located a few miles more down in the other direction.

Yes better safe than sorry. Luckily we only have one venomous species of snake here, a rattle snake , which is protected under law so you cant kill it.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:05 PM

View PostFink, on 23 April 2012 - 08:57 PM, said:

Yes better safe than sorry. Luckily we only have one venomous species of snake here, a rattle snake , which is protected under law so you cant kill it.

Is Texas the only state that is allowed to kill them and bbq them afterward?

Or is that an exception in Texas? (i.e. an annually thing at some event?)

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:06 PM

I once as a child went to this city in Sindh Pakistan which was known as a cobra hot spot.  At night we actually saw a couple crossing the road, I was extremely paranoid the night I had to stay at a friends place, I don't recall but I think I barely slept.  Cobras are damn scary, not to step on the sensibilities of any snake worshippers here.

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#6 ShiaBen

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:12 PM

I think it's that whole "rearing" up tactic that creeps people out (hissing too).

I have to feel especially for those that encountered king cobras especially with that annoying hissing.

At least the snakes here in California (both venomous, mild, and none venomous) don't make loud noises if any at all.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:16 PM

View PostShiaBen, on 23 April 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Is Texas the only state that is allowed to kill them and bbq them afterward?

Or is that an exception in Texas? (i.e. an annually thing at some event?)

Texans love to BBQ rattlesnakes...and thats also where bigfoot lives... :Lol

this is cool too:




Did I just post that video? lol

Edited by Fink, 23 April 2012 - 09:22 PM.


#8 ShiaBen

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:30 PM

lmao...........this brings memories of a time when I was 10 years old and went into rent a video game for my SNES (nintendo).

The owners running the mini-rental shop were Thai I believe.

Anyways, they had a python cake right near the cash stand. As a kid I was perplexed. What is a python cake doing at a video rental store.

It was quite eerie.........I remember I could only see the body wrapped around, had no idea where the head was that time (probably in the middle covered by the body).

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 10:00 PM

Fink is this thread about Iraqi snakes? I have come across more snakes here than I have in Iraq.

I remember frogs though, especially when I visited family in Kurdistan. They were tiny little froggies that were almost entirely gelatinous in nature. When I went in 06 there were all these power outages, so in the middle of the night when the power came back I went to wake up my uncle so he could turn on the generator and I could do something that actually resembled breathing. I remember stepping on something very damp and mushy and being worried that i had stepped on grapes my cousin had chewed up earlier, but it was actually like 2 tiny little froggies that I had mutilated under my oppressive little foot.

I am not even sure they were froggies.. bless their tininess they may have been something else. I just remember i would see them inside from time to time and then once one jumped on me while I was was preparing water for a bath.

Oh and dogs, so many dogs!! I was deathly afraid of them at first but my uncle told me that Iraqi dogs were so starved and cowardly that they were nothing to be afraid of. He demonstrated this by throwing a rock at a group of 20 dogs who all whimpered and scattered away.

It was quite sad actually :(

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 10:09 PM

SubhanAllah, I kinda wanna see a snake that's shedding its skin. Snakes are the last thing you worry about in Iraq =P

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:11 AM

bismillah,

salam,

That video was horrible. That was so bad. The fish was still alive!

Wasalam.

#12 Propaganda_of_the_Deed

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 02:06 AM

View PostFink, on 23 April 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

ALWAYS ASSUME SNAKES ARE VENOMOUS , EVEN IF YOU KNOW THEY MAY BE HARMLESS

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Last year I took this picture of this King Cobra in Marrakech up close.

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For you are in Elysium, and you're already dead!"



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#13 ShiaBen

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 02:35 AM

Venom means nothing.

I play with night snakes which are suppose to be mildly venomous but the venom isn't enough to kill a human being.

It's only in regions that are heavily concentrated with venomous creatures (specific kinds of venom that are dangerous) that's likely to kill you if you don't get treatment where you should be worried etc.


I know in California there have been a lot of scare when it comes to snakes.

There's a recent insurgency of "Mojave Rattlesnakes" that have been invading areas where other rattlesnakes live etc.

Since these guys are deadlier than other species of rattlesnakes, people are killing snakes left and right.

The night snake, the gopher snake, and a few other snakes sometimes are mistaken for small rattlesnakes.

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Last year I took this picture of this King Cobra in Marrakech up close.

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Sounds like a snake exhibition???

Snakes can be scary sometimes point blank particularly if they take you by surprise.

But what kind of surprised me the most was the first time I saw a "Spider Wasp".

I was staring at a hairy small-medium sized tarantula when all of a sudden I saw some big black blob crawl/walk towards it.

My God. One or two stings later within a second or two it started dragging it across the trail.........

I felt like double KOing both of them to get rid of the misery in the tarantula.

But then again I thought I would be disturbing nature.

Edited by ShiaBen, 24 April 2012 - 02:31 AM.




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