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[shiasoldier786]

Anywhere else in the 'democratic' and 'civilized' western world, she would have been dragged, arrested and imprisoned. Though the bodyguards of Ahmadinejad initially tried to stop her, she seem to have got up and have a little conversation with Ahmadinejad, till she got down herself.

Edited by shiasoldier786, 20 April 2012 - 10:41 AM.

[ShiaBen]

As soon as you posted the video was about to make that comment lol but you beat me to the punch.

Yep, which shows that Iran is a bigger democracy than these other Western nations.

[Waiting for HIM]

I liked the way she showed her catty jumping skills. But this was a serious breach of security and all of the security details of Ahmedinijad ought to be replaced.

This could also be a prequel of an MKO attack, the same way a woman killed Indian PM Rajiv Ghandhi before a similar dry run.
There is nothing funny about this.

[ShiaBen]

There have been numerous assassination attempts on the president. At least 5 I think. Most of them in the Sistan and Baluchistan areas.

But yeah, they should be cautious as the scary thing is it's almost impossible to identify an MKO from the crowd, they could look like anyone, unfortunately.

[md. ammar ali]

ahmadinejad is a gr8 leader

[shiasoldier786]

Waiting for HIM, on 20 April 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

This could also be a prequel of an MKO attack, the same way a woman killed Indian PM Rajiv Ghandhi before a similar dry run.
There is nothing funny about this.

The security concern is a good point bro. But the thing is, like all of Ahmadinejads visits, he sort of likes to get close to the ordinary ppl himself and hear it from them, so it must be a nightmare being his bodyguard.









LOOOOL haha Fox News portraying the ppl in the crowd who have come out to give letters to Ahmadinejad and shake his hands, as angry protesters.

Edited by shiasoldier786, 20 April 2012 - 12:44 PM.

[Wahdat]

shiasoldier786, on 20 April 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

talk about spin.

[Propaganda_of_the_Deed]

And y'all say how completely biased and openly one-sided BBC is. I told you it's far balanced in comparison to other major Western outlets. You would never get that reporting from an American mainstream channel and you know it.

[Ruq]

Ppl confront mp's in the UK all the time, even throw stuff at them and there was the famous incident with the woman who cornered Blair without her being obstructed or man handled. Was this woman in Iran given the chance to voice her objections in the media like the British one was? Would be interested to read her story.

Edited by ~Ruqaya's Amal~, 20 April 2012 - 01:05 PM.

[Propaganda_of_the_Deed]

~Ruqaya, on 20 April 2012 - 01:04 PM, said:

Ppl confront mp's in the UK all the time, ever throw stuff at them and there was the famous incident with the woman who cornered Blair without ger being obstructed or man handled. Was this woman in Iran given the chance to voice her objections in the media like the British one was? Would be interested to read her story.

How can you forget the Prescott-egging incident



Responded like a baws.

[ShiaBen]

NPR>BBC

[hussainmehdi]

This is behavior,
Iranians are happy with each other,

They may have political differences,
They may belong to position or opposition,

But,

They are satisfied with each other as fellow citizens of Iran,
This is an excellent gift that Islamic Revolution has given them,

This behavior didn’t exist in the period of kingdoms and monarchies in Iran,
People were suspicious and society was disturbed and system was discriminative,

Today Iranians are happy with each other,
They trust each other,
They may be rich they may be poor,
But one thing is common in Iranians today, which is: “they respect each other”,

In western countries,
With all drums of freedom,
The People to people relation and relation of people with governments are not to the minimum standards,
Elites praise governments and people are unhappy with governments,
Poor view rich as discriminator, rich view poor as ‘suckers’,

Prostitution, alcohol, narcotics, widespread nudity and break up of families and parentless children have changed the beautiful shape of Europe,

Europe is no more Europe,
Europe has become a crowd of strangers,
Have you ever unpacked a product??? For example: a cell phone???
Inside packet, you find many things like: installation CD or DVD, usb cables, etc. these things live in a pack like strangers …just like a European society …relation based on mechanical connections!!!

In Europe, you can find everything except true human relations that only come with family system,
And Europe has everything except family system,

In Iran,
Iranians are lucky,
They trust each other whether they are security guards of Ahmadinejad or ordinary people,
They all are part of one big family,

While in Europe family has gone,
In Europe only ‘monarch families’ are counted and kept neat and clean,
And all others are ‘usb cables’ and ‘other accessories’ in a pack,

European society is a pack of product,
While Iranian society is a garden of nature,

So, what that Iranian lady did is naturally understandable,
They were arguing like members of one great family.

[Ugly Jinn]

I give her props for yelling at Ahmadinejad to his face. And I liked how Ahmadinejad turned around, probably to say "help me".

How embarrassing.

[ShiaBen]

Ugly Jinn, on 20 April 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

I give her props for yelling at Ahmadinejad to his face. And I liked how Ahmadinejad turned around, probably to say "help me".

How embarrassing.

[A true Sunni]

Ugly Jinn, on 20 April 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

I give her props for yelling at Ahmadinejad to his face. And I liked how Ahmadinejad turned around, probably to say "help me".

How embarrassing.

TBH if you switch of the commentary it put Ahmadinejad in a very positive light. She is a very plucky woman who needed something. Ahmadnejad dealt with her in a very positive manner. He directed her to someone who would deal with her case. If she had been shouting abuse or being nasty the bodyguards would quite likely have removed her. Evidence is that she got of the car in the direction that Ahmadnejad directed her to go, I would imagine it was towards his secretary to make an appointment. But of course you have an inbuilt bias

[Professor Higgins]

Waiting for HIM, on 20 April 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

I liked the way she showed her catty jumping skills. But this was a serious breach of security and all of the security details of Ahmedinijad ought to be replaced.

This could also be a prequel of an MKO attack, the same way a woman killed Indian PM Rajiv Ghandhi before a similar dry run.
There is nothing funny about this.

The MKO know that there is nothing to be gained from assassinating a small-timer like Ahmadinejad. he isn't worth anything, and such a stupid move will only result in setbacks.  The real prize target is the old man with the white beard and black turban in Tehran, he is the real, power behind everything, and it is not easy to get him.

Professor Higgins, on 20 April 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

The MKO know that there is nothing to be gained from assassinating a small-timer like Ahmadinejad. he isn't worth anything, and such a stupid move will only result in setbacks.  The real prize target is the old man with the white beard and black turban in Tehran, he is the real, power behind everything, and it is not easy to get him.

However, let me correct myself, even taking out the Supreme Leader won't amount to much, because someone else is there to take his place. What I was trying to say was Ahmadinejad doesn;t have any real power, he's a small-timer made to look big by the regime.

The only way to defeat this regime is to confront it morally and ideologically, and to crush their "assets" in other countries like Iraq.

[ShiaBen]

Professor Higgins, on 20 April 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:

The MKO know that there is nothing to be gained from assassinating a small-timer like Ahmadinejad. he isn't worth anything, and such a stupid move will only result in setbacks.  The real prize target is the old man with the white beard and black turban in Tehran, he is the real, power behind everything, and it is not easy to get him.



However, let me correct myself, even taking out the Supreme Leader won't amount to much, because someone else is there to take his place. What I was trying to say was Ahmadinejad doesn;t have any real power, he's a small-timer made to look big by the regime.

The only way to defeat this regime is to confront it morally and ideologically, and to crush their "assets" in other countries like Iraq.

The Ayatollah is clearly a more powerful and sought after figure. I'm not denying that.

But to claim that Ahmadinejad is a smaller-timer is bogus.

Taking him out scrambles the country's stability for the time being. Sure, maybe it won't have the same detriments as taking out Ayatollah Khameini. But still, it does damage to Iran in every aspect. Which is why there have been several assassination attempts on President Ahmadinejad already.

[A true Sunni]

Professor Higgins, on 20 April 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:

The MKO know that there is nothing to be gained from assassinating a small-timer like Ahmadinejad. he isn't worth anything, and such a stupid move will only result in setbacks.  The real prize target is the old man with the white beard and black turban in Tehran, he is the real, power behind everything, and it is not easy to get him.



However, let me correct myself, even taking out the Supreme Leader won't amount to much, because someone else is there to take his place. What I was trying to say was Ahmadinejad doesn;t have any real power, he's a small-timer made to look big by the regime.

The only way to defeat this regime is to confront it morally and ideologically, and to crush their "assets" in other countries like Iraq.

In order to defeat a 'regime' morally or ideologically. You first need to prove that you are more moral and have a better ideology then the incumbent regime. So far the only people bleating appear to be the scummy royalty funding terrorists.

[Professor Higgins]

A true Sunni, on 20 April 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

In order to defeat a 'regime' morally or ideologically. You first need to prove that you are more moral and have a better ideology then the incumbent regime. So far the only people bleating appear to be the scummy royalty funding terrorists.

I am a Baathist, and you know the Baath Party of Iraq has better credibilty to "resistance" whether Iran or Israel, and yes, we hate the Iranian regime as well.  The same goes for the PLO.  Us Baathists can easily beat the Iranian regime at its own game of appearing holier than thou.  So gove me none of your "royalty funded" lecture, since we have nothing in common with them.

I am sure you know that 'Izzat Ibrahim al Douri, the Secretary-General of the Baath Party, has recently released a video regarding events in Iraq. he has clearly outilined his position to Iran, israel and USA and is on record saying that Iran is now the biggest threat to Iraq, now that the Zio-Zmerican occupiers have gone. In fact the main objective of toppling the legitimate Government was to hand Iraq to Iran, on a silver platter.

Edited by Professor Higgins, 20 April 2012 - 03:45 PM.

[Noah-]

Professor Higgins, on 20 April 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

I am a Baathist, and you know the Baath Party of Iraq has better credibilty to "resistance" whether Iran or Israel, and yes, we hate the Iranian regime as well.  The same goes for the PLO.  Us Baathists can easily beat the Iranian regime at its own game of appearing holier than thou.  So gove me none of your "royalty funded" lecture, since we have nothing in common with them.

I am sure you know that 'Izzat Ibrahim al Douri, the Secretary-General of the Baath Party, has recently released a video regarding events in Iraq. he has clearly outilined his position to Iran, israel and USA and is on record saying that Iran is now the biggest threat to Iraq, now that the Zio-Zmerican occupiers have gone. In fact the main objective of toppling the legitimate Government was to hand Iraq to Iran, on a silver platter.

What kind of stupid response was that? You are a Baathist and you should take over Iran? LOL

What nonsense and trash talk you just threw here when the topic of discussion was totally somewhere else

[Ugly Jinn]

Inaya, on 20 April 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

Masha'Allah you can lip-read

Nothing to do with lips, just the body language of the female and Ahmadinejad.

A true Sunni, on 20 April 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

TBH if you switch of the commentary it put Ahmadinejad in a very positive light. She is a very plucky woman who needed something. Ahmadnejad dealt with her in a very positive manner. He directed her to someone who would deal with her case. If she had been shouting abuse or being nasty the bodyguards would quite likely have removed her. Evidence is that she got of the car in the direction that Ahmadnejad directed her to go, I would imagine it was towards his secretary to make an appointment.

You are right, she definitely needed something (maybe a new President..lol), regardless she was upset at him.

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But of course you have an inbuilt bias

Ditto.

Just put a positive spin on everything...

Edited by Ugly Jinn, 20 April 2012 - 04:31 PM.

[bolbol]

The BBC, along with various other outlets have described this as a romantic sign of defiance against the 'regime'.

The way in which such tabloid media attempted to spin this into a feminist, courageous outcry of justice is just typical of the romantic propaganda Westerners are exposed to, and why they must start watching RT, Press TV, etc.


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Edited by bolbol, 21 April 2012 - 04:06 PM.

[Propaganda_of_the_Deed]

bolbol, on 21 April 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

The BBC, along with various other outlets have described this as a romantic sign of defiance against the 'regime'.

The way in which such tabloid media attempted to spin this into a feminist, courageous outcry of justice is just typical of the romantic propaganda Westerners are exposed to, and why they must start watching RT, Press TV, etc.


.

Well if you watched the video in op's post - which was a BBC news clip, it says that the incident can be seen as an attempt by frustrated citizens in showing their displeasure to the president, and that others will see it as the president reaching out to his people and "holding a spontenous constituency meeting on the roof of his car"

You must start watching some videos from start to end.

[bolbol]

I've seen the BBC's ridiculous video report of this instance, and the even more ridiculous reporting from its Persian news channel, where it believes it can get away with considerably more lies and speculations. Both have such massive propaganda injections that no serious minded individual will consider it balanced.