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[Ugly Jinn]

You obviously don't like the comparisons because it is not in Ahmadinejad's favor. As I said, I always use Khatami's 2005 numbers because that's when he finished the job he was assigned to do (his term ended), even though I can cherry pick prior years which were better in many cases, but I don't. Performance is usually determined at the end of the job.

The only valid argument you can make is that Ahmadinejad's job (term) isn't over and we have to wait and see what state the economy/country is when his job ends. But it is pretty obvious things are going to get worse (the numbers will be worse than what it is today).

The rest of your previous post was opinionated, I am only discussing the comparisons via statistics. Opinionated discussions are usually unproductive, especially when discussing Iran.

Edited by Ugly Jinn, 13 April 2012 - 01:34 PM.

[repenter]

Ugly Jinn, on 13 April 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

You obviously don't like the comparisons because it is not in Ahmadinejad's favor. As I said, I always use Khatami's 2005 numbers because that's when he finished the job he was assigned to do (his term ended), even though I can cherry pick prior years which were better in many cases, but I don't. Performance is usually determined at the end of the job.

The only valid argument you can make is that Ahmadinejad's job (term) isn't over and we have to wait and see what state the economy/country is when his job ends. But it is pretty obvious things are going to get worse (the numbers will be worse than what it is today).

The rest of your previous post was opinionated, I am only discussing the comparisons via statistics. Opinionated discussions are usually unproductive, especially when discussing Iran.

Actually, you aren't discussing anything, you are just giving hand picked numbers and calling it a discussion. A discussion is  presenting facts then give your opinion on them, such as why, when, logics etc etc, not just rant out facts and not debating them.  As I said, we are done, I'm interested in debating not having a peeing competition with you to see who can pee the furthest.

Edited by repenter, 13 April 2012 - 02:38 PM.

[Ugly Jinn]

repenter, on 13 April 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

Actually, you aren't discussing anything, you are just giving hand picked numbers and calling it a discussion. A discussion is  presenting facts then give your opinion on them, such as why, when, logics etc etc, not just rant out facts and not debating them.  As I said, we are done, I'm interested in debating not having a peeing competition with you to see who can pee the furthest.

All the statistics are facts and are relevant to the economy and foreign policies to back up my claim, which you have done also using the same website, that's the whole point of the discussion which you initiated with me , yet now you are dodging them with these irrelevant posts ("you care hand picking numbers", "why are you picking numbers from that year", "you are ranting", etc.)

• The Real Growth Rate of Iran was almost 7% when Khatami left and when Ahmadinejad took office, why is it 1% now?
  
• Why is the inflation rate over 21% now?
  
• Why is the Rial worthless? (considered one of the worst currencies on the planet - a laughingstock)
  
• Why does Ahmadinejad consider 1 hour of week of work as employment? (Who is he trying to fool?)
  
• 5 sanctions under Ahmadinejad, why so many under him? (ohh wait, he has dignity and morals, you answered that already, and angels come and listen when he speaks)

These are fundamental economical issues. Refute my argument with statistics, not subjective excuses.

PS. Excuses like the same recycled blame towards US/West/Zionist/Liberals/Arabs/etc. You can't blame your way out of this problem.

Edited by Ugly Jinn, 13 April 2012 - 04:20 PM.

[repenter]

Ugly Jinn, on 13 April 2012 - 03:32 PM, said:

All the statistics are facts and are relevant to the economy and foreign policies to back up my claim, which you have done also using the same website, that's the whole point of the discussion which you initiated with me , yet now you are dodging them with these irrelevant posts ("you care hand picking numbers", "why are you picking numbers from that year", "you are ranting", etc.)

• The Real Growth Rate of Iran was almost 7% when Khatami left and when Ahmadinejad took office, why is it 1% now?
  
• Why is the inflation rate over 21% now?
  
• Why is the Rial worthless? (considered one of the worst currencies on the planet - a laughingstock)
  
• Why does Ahmadinejad consider 1 hour of week of work as employment? (Who is he trying to fool?)
  
• 5 sanctions under Ahmadinejad, why so many under him? (ohh wait, he has dignity and morals, you answered that already, and angels come and listen when he speaks)

These are fundamental economical issues. Refute my argument with statistics, not subjective excuses.

PS. Excuses like the same recycled blame towards US/West/Zionist/Liberals/Arabs/etc. You can't blame your way out of this problem.

as i said, move along

[Aarash_Australia]

http://baztab.net/fa/news/5515

Chinese imports of Iranian oil down 21.5% over last two months....

[repenter]

Aarash_Australia, on 13 April 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

http://baztab.net/fa/news/5515

Chinese imports of Iranian oil down 21.5% over last two months....

Minister: Iran's Crude Exports Hit $60bln despite Sanctions
http://english.farsn...p?nn=9101141361


PS: Let's not post irrelevant stuff here anymore shall we?

[Salaam786]

Does anyone know if youtube is still banned in Iran or not?

[repenter]

Salaam786, on 14 April 2012 - 03:22 AM, said:

Does anyone know if youtube is still banned in Iran or not?

It's weird though. Because in some places it is banned in others it's not. But i think it's banned in most places. It's a hard thing to deal with though, because youtube is a great place to learn stuff, but also has some really bad stuff islamically speaking.


PS: I removed post that were irrelevant, because from the beginning everyone(including me) were going off track. Let's get back to talking about banning the internet.

[Mutah_King]

Banning youtube?  Internet?  It is usually states which are incredibly insecure that typically resort to these measures.  I hope this doesn't go through.

[iDevonian]

repenter, on 13 April 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

Minister: Iran's Crude Exports Hit $60bln despite Sanctions
http://english.farsn...p?nn=9101141361


PS: Let's not post irrelevant stuff here anymore shall we?

You are both correct.  There is a difference between what Iran produces and the value of its exports.  Iran in the past has had a revenue of over 70 billion, just 2 years ago, and nearly 80 billion a year or two before that.  So it reaching 60 billion isnt saying much  aside from it making less money.  But yes, Iranian production has been dropping as well as Australia had said. It hasnt been this low since the early 90s. And in all honesty, being new working and dealing with this field, I've never seen such a fast drop in oil production, and I'm honestly uncertain of what will happen to their market, but I'm willing to bet, its not going to be pretty in the next few years if something doesnt change.

Aside from that though, if Iran is implementing its own version of the internet, im sure censorship will follow.  Many govts simply do not want their people exposed to certain concepts.  Good and bad. China censors all its people from websites on Tienanmen square. Some things protect government interests if its not in the minds of the people.  And Iran is probably doing this, both for the purpose of protecting the government, and for the sake of keeping its people from viewing both positive and negative things in the world.  Just for the purpose of keeping order in its own country.

Id say in most cases though, censorship is bad, even if its censorship of anti Islamic things. The reason I say this is because, competition in this world is what makes us strong.  Critical thinking and exposure to opposition is what empowers us.  If these people cannot see their opposition then how will they ever think critically of themselves to solve issues within what they do?

Its like, If you have 2 boxing fighters.  If they fight, they will learn from each other how to be a better boxer.  But if the one boxer just doesnt fight, but instead uses the excuse that the other boxer fights dirty, well, the boxer who walks away wont learn how to fight in all environments, and they will ultimately be the weaker boxer in the long run.

But if they embrace the opposition, then they will learn how to defeat them. Or perhaps, they will be defeated, which is a possibility as well.  But only the less superior are ever defeated, so nobody should ever fear fighting for what they believe in, if they know they are fighting for truth.

repenter, on 14 April 2012 - 08:16 AM, said:

PS: I removed post that were irrelevant, because from the beginning everyone(including me) were going off track. Let's get back to talking about banning the internet.

ok, I see, sorry about that.  I was all confused, wondering what happened to my post.  I figured maybe my internet had cut off or something.

Edited by iDevonian, 14 April 2012 - 10:43 AM.

[mohalamine]

shiasoldier786, on 10 April 2012 - 11:49 AM, said:

Ridiculous comparison. Read some history dude. The US hasn't overthrown a democratically elected Govt in Pakistan, but it has in Iran. The US doesn't spends hundreds of millions on destabilizing Pakistan (on the contrary it gives them billions in aid), but it does in Iran. Keeping this in mind, it is natural for Iran to be vary of outside influence, and much explains some of these restrictions.

786-92-110

Salaaam

That's true...

As for pakistan and their support for Worldwide terrorism, not only they are the hideouts of Al-CIA but worse, now they are training African mujahideens to wage their "jihad" through " khourouj" and "Dawa" campaigns in the African negroes lands and territories like this so called faceless and occult cult of "Boko Haram" in Nigeria, and now they are targeting Chad, Cameroon and CAR !!!





In an Abdulmalick Riggi type of Jet from Dubaîe to Kabul, Islamabad via Qatar and Bahraîn ...









The US-Wahhabi  Sponsored Agent in a pakistani populated county in Dubaê ... just like Riggi with Al-Cia-Mossad's "Jundullah" or MKO terrorists in Paris !!!




How "Demon Cratic" and "Free Doom" is nowaday's Pakistan's Society ???

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...then they are searching
for the guest house where u 3 lived one year be fore by the name insaf ( ISAF right?)
guest house Room# 7 ok
then the roloox guest house where ali lived ok?

...

they will come to ur country and ur homeland first he take u trough ur
country police ok then from u we take ali and abdulaye. we will find u
all 3 person ok i dont care i am not comeing alone that i ca;n't do
anything to u and ali i have ur passports and the copy of the paper
that u send money to camroon. if u want me to help u then ur the one
to send me back my money other waise i will see u to u country with
interpol police ok . i only need from u the send me ali phone number
that i catch him with police in dubai ok take care reply me fast
--
Ahmad Mujtaba Chenzaie
Western Union Officer at Kabul Bank
0797 16 64 16  0786-634478

How comes it that some African Negroes terrorists can be Funded, Trained and Live safely in ISAF guest Houses in Afghanistan and Pakistan ??? and the US and NATO ( ISAF) comes up with their pack of lies saying that their are fighting "taliban", "terrosrists" , "Al Qaeda"  or whatever while in fact their are the Creator, Founders, Sponsors, Tariners and instructors of these terrrorists that they will use as an excuse to invade Countries ... like Nigeria and MALI with "boko Haram" , "Aqmi", "Andar Dine", "Mujao"... and so on and so forth "Islamists terrorists", for the Christians Areas they have hundreds of rebellions like in DRC, LIBERIA, SIERRA LEONE and their "Child Soldiers"!!! ... to help them intervene and invade Countries to plunder their wealth.

For Mali and the So Called "Tuareg's MNLA" or France's DGSE's "AQMI", "Ansar Dine" , and "MUJAO" ( Jihad Movement in Western Africa )




Just because President toumani touré was friendly with Iran and Alpha Omar Konaré was in teheran to ask for help ( Military of Course ) few weeks before this US trained Captain Sanogo overthrew TOURE with a West sponsored Coup ( France with Zionist Sarkozy and Alain Juppé, his "Sinistery" Foreign Affairs Agitator )










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Spread the News... bro shiasoldier

Ma'a Salaam

[Aarash_Australia]

Salaam786, on 14 April 2012 - 03:22 AM, said:

Does anyone know if youtube is still banned in Iran or not?

Yes, it is. I don't know what repenter is referring to - YouTube is banned across the board. So is Facebook, certain Wikipedia sites, most Western news sites (CNN, BBC, even Australian newspapers!), all opposition websites, many pro-Ahmadinejad news sites and blogs, etc, etc, etc.


British tabloids are also blocked - about the only good thing! ;-)

repenter, on 14 April 2012 - 08:16 AM, said:

It's weird though. Because in some places it is banned in others it's not. But i think it's banned in most places. It's a hard thing to deal with though, because youtube is a great place to learn stuff, but also has some really bad stuff islamically speaking.


PS: I removed post that were irrelevant, because from the beginning everyone(including me) were going off track. Let's get back to talking about banning the internet.

As long as you get the last word in though, right? ;-)

[Ugly Jinn]

^ Aren't there loopholes? I know quite of few people using Facebook, Youtube, etc., in Iran.

[ShiaBen]

All the time.

[Aarash_Australia]

Ugly Jinn, on 14 April 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

^ Aren't there loopholes? I know quite of few people using Facebook, Youtube, etc., in Iran.

yeah. people (including me) use proxies.

generally it slows everything down heaps - which is a pain, considering it's already so slow (on a par with Senegal!).

You can pay a lot of money for VPNs that are organized from abroad and provide good speeds, although recently the government clamped down on most of these.

It's like satellite TV. The regime plays games, intermittently blocking things, allowing them, just to mess with people.

But the number of blocked sites has increased exponentially since 2009. Sometimes it can be genuinely difficult to find a decent news report on an important international issue simply because most news sites are blocked. (with the NY Times for example, sometimes it is blocked, sometimes it isn't - but when it isn't blcoked, it still blocks the images, which of course messes with the format of the html, so you end up scrolling through 18 size font and big empty jpeg boxes just to read a news item!)

Edited by Aarash_Australia, 14 April 2012 - 02:46 PM.

[Aarash_Australia]

shiasoldier786, on 14 April 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

^ stop talking to yourself

pot. kettle. black.


I was answering a question, [Mod edit - calling people a donkey, which in farsi is synonym for idiot is not nice]

Edited by repenter, 14 April 2012 - 05:53 PM.

[Salaam786]

Talking of blocked sites, I can't seem to get onto the irani site from the UK
www.aparat.com
I really hope it's not blocked, it has some good videos on it.
Does anyone have any ideas?

[hasanhh]

baradar_jackson, on 10 April 2012 - 01:22 AM, said:

The national internet has been in the pipeline for over a year, but this is the first I am hearing of shutting down the standard internet.

Edit: and Ugly Jinn is...

Assalamallikum,

Same here.

I do know that the mullahs have complained about pornography on the Internet for over a decade.  I don't think junior high mentalities should be able to indulge themselves with garbage all the time either.

I do not think they will block google or skype or such, just access porno.

Salaam786, on 14 April 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

Talking of blocked sites, I can't seem to get onto the irani site from the UK
www.aparat.com
I really hope it's not blocked, it has some good videos on it.
Does anyone have any ideas?

I can't get Tehran Times anymore, either.

[570]

Salaam786, on 14 April 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

Talking of blocked sites, I can't seem to get onto the irani site from the UK
www.aparat.com
I really hope it's not blocked, it has some good videos on it.
Does anyone have any ideas?

hasanhh, on 14 April 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

Assalamallikum,

Same here.

I do know that the mullahs have complained about pornography on the Internet for over a decade.  I don't think junior high mentalities should be able to indulge themselves with garbage all the time either.

I do not think they will block google or skype or such, just access porno.



I can't get Tehran Times anymore, either.

Why we don't get news about that? That means UK is insecure of it. The UK blocked Iranian sites.
By using the logic of western democracy wannabes, the UK is a thatcherism dictator state where the citizens want democracy.

Edited by аli, 14 April 2012 - 10:00 PM.

[Salaam786]

аli, on 14 April 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Why we don't get news about that? That means UK is insecure of it. The UK blocked Iranian sites.
By using the logic of western democracy wannabes, the UK is a thatcherism dictator state where the citizens want democracy.

lol false alarm, it's working now

[Aarash_Australia]

hasanhh, on 14 April 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

Assalamallikum,

Same here.

I do know that the mullahs have complained about pornography on the Internet for over a decade.  I don't think junior high mentalities should be able to indulge themselves with garbage all the time either.

I do not think they will block google or skype or such, just access porno.



I can't get Tehran Times anymore, either.

Skype is already blocked.

a "Basiji network" will be available...


راه اندازی شبکه اینترانت بسیج/ ایجاد اتوماسیون اداری بسیج در قالب این شبکه سمنان – خبرگزاری مهر: کارشناس فناوری اطلاعات سپاه قائم آل محمد(عج) استان سمنان از راه اندازی شبکه مجازی اینترانت بسیج با هدف دسترسی آسان و سریع به فضای مجازی در چارچوب اینترنت ملی خبر داد.
به گزارش خبرنگار مهر، محمد حسن حسین پور شامگاه شنبه در جلسه توجیهی شبکه اینترانت بسیج در سالن جلسات سپاه ناحیه شاهرود گفت: با توجه به پیشرفت فناوری و کسب اطلاعات به صورت مجازی، سازمان بسیج مستضعفین شبکه مجازی اینترانت بسیج را راه اندازی است.
وی افزود: این شبکه در گام اول در سطح نواحی و سپس در سطح حوزه ها و پایگاه های بسیج راه اندازی می شود.
کارشناس فناوری اطلاعات سپاه قائم آل محمد (عج) استان سمنان، دسترسی آسان و سریع به فضای مجازی در چارچوب تعریف شده اینترنت ملی را از اهداف راه اندازی اینترانت بسیج عنوان کرد و اظهار داشت: در این شبکه مجازی، سامانه پیامک، پست الکترونیک و دانشگاه مجازی تعریف شده است.
حسین پور با بیان اینکه سامانه اتوماسیون اداری بسیج نیز در قالب شبکه اینترانت بسیج تعریف می شود گفت: به زودی مکاتبات بسیج از سطح کشوری تا حوزه و پایگاه نیز در قالب این شبکه انجام می شود.

[mohalamine]

mohalamine, on 14 April 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

786-92-110

Salaaam

That's true...

As for pakistan and their support for Worldwide terrorism, not only they are the hideouts of Al-CIA but worse, now they are training African mujahideens to wage their "jihad" through " khourouj" and "Dawa" campaigns in the African negroes lands and territories like this so called faceless and occult cult of "Boko Haram" in Nigeria, and now they are targeting Chad, Cameroon and CAR !!!





In an Abdulmalick Riggi type of Jet from Dubaîe to Kabul, Islamabad via Qatar and Bahraîn ...









The US-Wahhabi  Sponsored Agent in a pakistani populated county in Dubaê ... just like Riggi with Al-Cia-Mossad's "Jundullah" or MKO terrorists in Paris !!!




How "Demon Cratic" and "Free Doom" is nowaday's Pakistan's Society ???




How comes it that some African Negroes terrorists can be Funded, Trained and Live safely in ISAF guest Houses in Afghanistan and Pakistan ??? and the US and NATO ( ISAF) comes up with their pack of lies saying that their are fighting "taliban", "terrosrists" , "Al Qaeda"  or whatever while in fact their are the Creator, Founders, Sponsors, Tariners and instructors of these terrrorists that they will use as an excuse to invade Countries ... like Nigeria and MALI with "boko Haram" , "Aqmi", "Andar Dine", "Mujao"... and so on and so forth "Islamists terrorists", for the Christians Areas they have hundreds of rebellions like in DRC, LIBERIA, SIERRA LEONE and their "Child Soldiers"!!! ... to help them intervene and invade Countries to plunder their wealth.

For Mali and the So Called "Tuareg's MNLA" or France's DGSE's "AQMI", "Ansar Dine" , and "MUJAO" ( Jihad Movement in Western Africa )




Just because President Aamdou Toumani Touré was friendly with Iran and Alpha Omar Konaré was in teheran to ask for help ( Military of Course ) just few weeks before this US trained Captain Sanogo overthrew TOURE with a West sponsored Coup ( France with Zionist Sarkozy and Alain Juppé, his "Sinistery" Foreign Affairs Agitator )









African unity not beneficial to hegemonic powers: Ahmadinejad


Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ® and Malian President’s Special Envoy Alpha Oumar Konare talk during a meeting in the Iranian capital, March 6, 2012.

Wed Mar 7, 2012 9:16AM GMT


Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has highlighted the significance of unity among African nations, insisting that a united and powerful Africa will disappoint hegemonic powers. ...

http://www.presstv.i...ail/186871.html


Ahmadinejad suggests Iran-Africa fund

Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:30AM GMT

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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ® and former Malian President Alpha Oumar Konare meet in the capital Tehran on June 29, 2011.

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has stressed the importance of maintaining regular relations with African countries, expressing Tehran's readiness to launch a joint fund with Africa.





http://www.presstv.i...ail/186871.html












Touré in China





This is What they Wanted, An Af-pakistani's type US-NATO "help" with bombs and Weapons ,Military Invasion with grounds troops, military bases and assassination Drones...

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Op-Ed: Is the U.S. Seeking Greater Military Control of Africa?

Publié par africadefensejournal le 11/04/2011
Publié dans: Africa Defense Journal, Informations, L'Analyse de la Semaine/ Weekly Analysis.

Source: The Digital Journal   


Anders Fogh Rasmussen
12th Secretary General of NATO

The Libyan revolution began as part of the Arab Spring, but NATO intervention turned it into yet another Western assault on another North African or Middle Eastern Arab country.
While NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen hailed the campaign as a success, many analysts and other countries – including Russia, China and the African Union – argued NATO misused the UN resolution to promote regime change and contend NATO’s intensive bombing campaign violated its U.N. mandate. After seven months and more than 26,500 sorties, including 9,700 strike missions flown, NATO ended its bombing campaignin Libya after the death of Moammar Gadhafi. According to NATO, its aircraft bombed 5,900 military targets inside the country in order to protect innocent civilians.

Our military assessment is very clear. A significant threat against civilian population doesn’t exist any longer. This is a reason why we can now bring Operation Unified Protector to a close. We have fulfilled the United Nations mandate. We have prevented a massacre on the Libyan people. We have saved countless lives. A great success. – NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen

There are indications the role that NATO played in Libya has been very problematic and may ultimately have a long-term, destructive impact on Libya’s future. The assertion that the NATO bombings were to protect civilians is being questioned. During the last several weeks of the bombing campaign, there was actually an escalation against the city of Sirte — Gadhafi’s hometown. While many in the population were supporters of Gadhafi, not all of them were by far. And yet, there were huge numbers of civilian casualties that many believed to have been caused by the NATO bombing. While nothing close to accurate numbers have been produced yet, the notion that the civilians of Sirte, were being protected is being questioned. Some contend the civilians of Sirte were targets of NATO, not being protected by them.
There is a question of what the impact of bringing in NATO forcesand transforming what had begun as part of the Arab Spring, into the overthrowing of a dictator. In the context of the Arab Spring popping up all over the region, where popular revolts by the people overturned governments in Tunisia and Egypt, Libya instead turned into a Western invasion of a North African, Middle Eastern and Arab country, leaving behind a nation dependent on military support. NATO essentially emerged as the air force of the NTC – National Transitional Council – the self-appointed leadership of the uprising. There is now a situation now where the militias that fought against Gadhafi have made it clear they don’t believe the NTC is their legitimate leadership and don’t feel accountable to them. Statements made by the earlier NTC leadership that they would, “remember” who their friends were, and make sure that they were treated well in a post-Gadhafi Libya, were widely interpreted to mean that the countries that had provided military support to the anti-Gadhafi forces would gain a privileged position regarding Libyan oil and rebuilding contracts. Where it goes now remains unclear. This was not a war for oil in the classic sense; where there was an actual need to overthrow a dictator in-order to claim access to Libyan oil. Libyan oil was very much in the pockets of the NATO countries and relations with Gadhafi were as friendly as could be. There are recent pictures all over the world of Gadhafi arm in arm with presidents and kings and heads of state, perhaps most memorably with Condoleezza Rice, but also with President Bush and President Obama just weeks before the NATO attacks on Libya began. Further afield in Africa there is a situation where the rising role of NATO looks very ominous and there is now talk of other African governments asking for NATO – meaning the U.S. and Europe – to engage militarily in internal African affairs. Recently a large contingent of Kenyan troops moved into Somaliaclaiming to be going after the Shabab militia which has carried out terrible atrocities against Somalis. In the process, there were bombings of a refugee camp with dozens of casualties. These bombings were not targeting the militias, but the internally displaced Somalis, refugees already fleeing violence. There are now calls from both Kenya and the government in Mogadishu- that controls just part of the capital, really – asking for NATO engagement. They’re asking for a blockade of the port of Kismayo along the Somali coast, which is supposedly a stronghold of the Shabab militia. But bringing in outside military forces, more men with guns, will inevitably lead to more civilian casualties, not fewer. The prospect of escalating the conflict in Somalia further by bringing in NATO is a real possibility and potentially another example of NATO expanding its own self-defined mandate of defending its own members. The North Atlantic Treaty Organizationwas a Cold War creature created by and during the Cold War to buffer the Soviet Union. With the end of the Cold War, NATO has expanded beyond that mandate, first to take up all the military engagements in Bosnia and Kosovo in the 1990’s, to its involvement in Libya and perhaps elsewhere in Africa in the near future. Paralleling the rising NATO role is that of AFRICOM, the U.S. Africa Command on the continent. At the beginning of the NATO engagement, AFRICOM was in commandof U.S. forces in NATO. The insistence that AFRICOM has a humanitarian mission, which is going to be carried out by the U.S. military through Africa Command, is enough to raise some eyebrows. This could very well be a precursor to the expansion of U.S. military control of Africa. If one looks at NATO as a whole, it will recognize the powerful military forces within NATO, are the former colonial powers in Africa. This is something that the African Union is going to be very much on guard against, and people across all of Africa are going to be wary of. The future for Libya to reclaim some level of independence may prove to be a difficult one. The new emerging leadership includes both forces close tothe U.S. and the CIA, Islamist forceswith a wide variety of ideologies and more secular Libyan forces that for years have wanted to challenge the political repression that characterized the Gaddafi regime. Libya may very well be vulnerable to Western and internal pressure for some time to come.
By Sadiq Green

Zionists false Flag ops for Propaganda in Africa...to demonise the Islamic republic ( I have first hand accounts about these arms, they wanted to assassinate the character of general Yadollah javani and Hossein Souleymani from the IRGC political bureau and intelligence , unfortunately it was Heydar Moslehi and mottaki who were trapped in this Counter-intelligence "Spying Game", you can't understand it may be, but Ahmadinejad was somewhat right in firing both Mannouchehr Mottaki and Heydar Moslehi who were gullible in this dangerous game, though some hardliners pressed the Rahbar to overturn the verdict.

http://www.terrorism...f/iran_e106.pdf

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After that it Was in NIGERIA ...

The lackeys of the Sponsors of "Talibans" ( US-NATO Wahhabis Zionists Scums ). :

Général Mahamat Nour Abdelkerim







and his Leftnenat : BABALADDE



Mardi 31 janvier 2012





«Bozizé et Déby ont conspiré contre le FPR. Il va de notre intérêt de tendre la main aux groupes rebelles centrafricains»

I am really wondering about these sold out gangsters posing as "rebels" with Iran, Hezbollah and Syria ... while they are massacrating even our elephants to sell the Ivory to their Zionists and Wahhabi Masters !!!

And all what they want us to know in their Internet is spreading crime and immorality with lies and rumors about Iran , Islam and China in their deceitful Medias and multivarious propagandas, instead of telling the truth about Chinese or Iranian benevolent help in Agro-industrial and Infrastructure Project in the oppressed World.

"Bob" Robert Mugabe is the Only one to not fear these bullying criminals ... in Africa.



Zimbabwe Defense Minister Emmerson Mnangagwa and Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi

And Also, Chavez, Bashar Al Assad, Al Bashir of Sudan, Bozize of CAR, Cameroon's Biya, Kabila... are all well aware of their Intents and ill wishes of plots, like in Ivory Coast, Libya, Syria and now in Nigeria and MALI ...why are they shutting down internet on these issues by blocking websites, vids...???





© Prc.cm
le Général Jia Xiaoning et Paul Biya le 16 décembre à Yaoundé

Un général chinois reçu par Paul Biya

Publié le 18 décembre 2010 par 237online





En visite de travail au Cameroun depuis mardi dernier, le général de division Jia Xiaoning, directeur adjoint du bureau des affaires étrangères au ministère chinois de la Défense nationale a été reçu hier en fin de matinée par le chef de l'Etat.
Une audience de trente minutes qui s'est déroulée en présence du ministre délégué à la présidence, chargé de la Défense, Edgard Alain Mebe Ngo'o,


Le Général de Division JIA XIAONING a été reçu en audience mardi au palais présidentielle.








Even Central African Republic Citizens knows that IRAN is Bullied by the Wahhabi-Zionists Racists, and Iranian Made Weapons are deadliest that the Zionists third hand trash sold to Guinea pigs for tests ...


   François Bozizé ici avec l'Iranien Ahmadinejad


Now who is shutting Down Internet ? The Chinese ? The Iranians ? or those ZIONISTS and their Puppet kings who deny China and Iran Free acces to youtube, Dailymotion, google video... staellite channels and by removing or banning anything from Iran that goes against their whims ??? Shutting down press tv , Al Alam, Almanar from European and African Satellite Platforms ... Cyber-Hacking Networks with Stuxnet likes Worms and they call it "Free-Doom" of Expression ???

What a Pharoaic logic !!! they accuse you of what they are exactly doing ... to hide their misery like Pharoah Accusing moses of performic Magic , Who Compelled the magicians to pratice Sorcery ???

Fortunately Iran Downed the RQ-117 Sentinel Drone while Pakistan's military under CIA MOSSAD supervision can't even achieve preventing this Beast of Kandahar to Spy on Abbotabad yeah ??? and they come up by shutting down some rustic and old US assassination drones ...

Big up IRAN and CHINA and to hell with the Free-Masonic "laicity" ( Pure "Kufr" and Satanism in fact, with their kinds of "minutes of silence" instead of Worshipping the Oneness of GOD LOUDLY.


Anyway, with or without Western made Internet, The Chinese and the Iranians are welcome in Africa with their home made National Internet , E-mail Services and Search Engines and "marg bar Western Zionism and their Secularists Lackeys !!!



Spread the News... bro shiasoldier

Ma'a Salaam

Edited by mohalamine, 16 April 2012 - 03:22 PM.

[Aarash_Australia]

mohalamine, please don't spam threads.

thanks.

[shiasoldier786]

Dont pay too much attention to bitter shah supporters like Aarash_Australia. We love your posts mohalmine.

[AliSaleh]

my cousins r in iran and they all say they cant get on facebook or youtube and the sites r blocked and sometimes they cant even get in there email like yahoo or gmail.