.InshAllah., on 27 March 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:
On the one hand Ugly Jinn is telling us that Islam brought nothing new, and on the other he's asking for proof that Islam existed prior the 7th century.
Yeah, they are 2 different things, can you prove either?
Well, if he thinks that Islam brought nothing new, then he must have proof that all of the tenets of Islam existed prior to the 7th century!
Are you serious? Just look at your Articles of Faith/Roots of Religion/Usool ad Deen:
1. Tawheed = Existed prior to Quran/Prophet (ex. Judiasm, Zoroastrianism, etc)
2. God is Just = Existed before Quran/Prophet (ex. Judaism, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, etc.)
3. Prophets/Imams = Concept of divine agents existed in religion previous to Quran/Prophet (ex. Judiasm)
4. Day of Judgement = Existed before Quran/Prophet (ex. Judaism, Christianity, etc.)
Concept of Holy scripture existed before
Concept of Heaven and Hell existed before
Concept of evil existed before
Concept of Angels existed before
Concept of miracles existed before
Concept of Holy places existed before (ex. Temples, Synagogues, Churches, etc.)
Perhaps he wants us to find a faith that contained all of these tenets together, but theres no reason to think that we must find evidence of such a faith. We know for a fact that religions are corrupted/ changed over time (even false ones). We know that books are burnt, followers are killed, and texts are lost over time. The onus is on him to give us a proper argument.
The onus is on you to source the void of thousands of years with 123,999 Prophets prior to 610 ac, not I.