Bro Shamali: Please show me where did Kurds pour into the streets and support Saddam? There are no kurdish songs for Saddam, and you'll never see kurdish people pouring into the streets to support Saddam, you gotta be completely delusional to be comparing this.
You're not part of the Iranian people, but your identity is more suitable after a Greek name? Tell me how do you say "you" and "I" and what is a peshmarga? They are Farsi words (same in Kurdish). Kurds in Iran have a long history, same as other people in Iran.
You seem to downplay Turkey's role with the Kurds, and you say you don't support the PKK. Every single Iraqi kurd I've met supports the PKK. And nobody cares about the Iraqi shia's or Maliki (no Iraqi kurds that is). But you seem to be bent on Syria and anything anti-shia and anti-Iran. Not normal issues for an Iraqi kurd...very odd.
PJAK is a small group, tiny, they don't even get popular support by the Iranian kurds. Why would you mention PKK? PKK have nothing to do with Iran, they are a Kurdish group in Turkey.
So let me get this straight, you claim to be an Iraqi Kurd. But you seem to be really confident that Turkey will have no problems with Kurds, that they will surely come to a deal and everybody there will be happy. You also don't support the PKK. Yet Turkey bombs and goes into Iraqi Kurdistan quite frequently. (you are showing that you actually have no clue at all about Kurds in Turkey, the situation and history of conflict). You think Kurds sang songs for Saddam and poured into the streets and supported him as well. You think the Kurdish identity should be the Greek name Mesopatamian. You don't mind doing business with Israel or USA, where as in 1988 it was the USA that tried to deny and hide the Halabja massacre by Pan-Arab Ba'athists, only to later change their stance when it suited them. Not only this, but now that Iraqi's voted in majority for a government, because they are shia , they do not have the right to be making the majority decisions in Iraq, mind you they are the majority! Every Iraqi shia I've met cared about Iraq, they care about their country. You on the other hand are just whining about anti-shia, anti-Maliki, anti-Iran (shia). Or anything that's anti-Iranian even "culturally".
Hmmm I smell a phony.
Every Iraqi, from any corner of the country, participated in worshipping Saddam. If you did otherwise, than you would of been killed. The same policy works (maybe to a lesser extent), in Iran and Syria. You are obviously NOT Iraqi, so you wouldn't know. Of course the Kurds put up the greatest resistance towards Saddam. But that was only a portion of Kurds. The rest were forced to live under Saddam's Iraq.
I am absolutely not downplaying Turkey's role in oppressing Kurds. Many Iraqi Kurds even say that Turkey was worse to Kurds than Saddam. And in some cases, the later is true. Turkey even denied the existence of Kurds, which is equivalent to ethnic cleansing. But as of today, the Turkish government is slowly reforming it's fascist Kurdish policies, and that was my point.
Persians, Arabs and Turks have throughout history have tried to erase our identity, either through war or political repression. Even to this day, we have people like you trying to point out "similarities" between us and Iranians. We are KURDS, and are unique to the Middle East. Accepting our unique ethnic nationality is the first step to solving the Kurdish problem in the MIddle East. And for your information, "Iranian" Kurds want an INDEPENDENT Kurdistan, and not a theocracy ruled by Persians. The first Kurdish state and national movement was in occupied Iranian Kurdistan. You obviously have no knowledge of Kurdish history.
My family lived in Iraq for two generations and they were forced to flea the country due to Saddam, and they returned back to Iran. Having seen what Saddam did to us for being Iranian shia kurds - I can tell you that any so called "abuse" the Islamic Republic is doing of kurds is laughable in comparison, and I would take that any day 10000x over.
Brother Shomali - I know where you are coming from, you feel that all these other ethnic groups and countries have hurt your people very much. My father was very much in to kurdish nationalism as well when he was younger (although he doesnt care that much for it any more), and yes its true many countries and groups - especially Iraqi Arabs and Turks have hurt kurds very badly, but dont allow your self to become blinded and make the focus of your life your ethnicity/language. Having some love for your background is a good thing - Hub Al Watan min al iman - love for your nation is from faith, its good that you care about the well being of your fellow Kurds, but dont let it blind you from whats really important. Remember language and ethnicity - should not be your focus in life. What really matters is your ideology and your beliefs.
I respect your emphasis on ideology and beliefs but, let me ask you a question, do you speak Kurdish? Will your children speak Kurdish? And will they even know that they are Kurdish? And I agree their is a sense of Kurdish nationalism amongst the Fayli Kurds. The Fayli Kurds in Diyala (in Iraq), want their regions to be under the KRG. The ones in Baghdad are more integrated within the Arab population though.
Edited by Shamali, 14 March 2012 - 12:18 PM.