Very simple and straight forward. Out of the 12 Imaams 11 have been. Have you read their life story??? Do you know how they have passed their time??? Do you know how they've been treated??? Through persecution! The Imaams, their family, relatives, friends, followers and supporters have been persecuted all their lives. The 12th went into hiding because of this treatment towards them by the will, wish and desire of Allah. Since the 12th has been in ocultation has the persecution stopped regarding Syeds and Shias??? You know the answer very well. Anyways! Lets get to the points. Look, i'm not here to cause disturbance or division. Just here to discuss and debate with a positive attitude and a pleasent manner. Just in search for the truth and I believe that people deserve the truth and should know the right reasons behind issues. I'm not saying look here the third term is compulsory [Wajib] and that's it. That's not my tone. As you can clearly see that was brothers tone, regarding his belief and point of view, not mine. The issue here is crystal clear, no gimmicks! Either the third Shahada is a part of the Ezaan and the Iqamah or it isn't full stop. No excuses, no twist and turns, no its and buts but just cut and dried. This is exactly my point. It's not part of the Ezaan and Iqamah but this and but that is what makes ones position weak. If its not part of it then it's an addition which should be haram. Allowing an addition opens the doors for others to add things freely as they wish and one can simply and easily justify them. You tell me!
what is above sense and logic??? What is above your own ability to think, investigate and examine??? I believe in Ijtihad and I respect all Mujtahids from the bottom of my heart. I believe Ijtihad is the substitute for Imaamath and Mujtahid is for an Imaam. This is the next best thing which the Shia need to rely on about matters and affairs regarding their daily lives. Imaamath is connected to infallibility and an Imaam is infallible. So blind obedience would work here and is a must. But is Ijtihad connected to infallibility and is a Mujtahid infallible??? You know very well that the answer is NO! Therefore blind obedience wouldn't work here and such obedience, in every single matter regarding somebody who isn't infallible [Masoom], is not allowed, not Jaiz. Blind obedience [Andi-Tabedari] of [Gher-e-Masoom] isn't permitted. So turning around and saying, the Maraje said this and the Maraje said that and accepting every single thing with your eyes closed, well you tell me! I'm not against Taqleed but in favour of it. I'm not against any Mujtahid, neither am I in the position to be but it's blind obedience, which is my point. I don't think one needs to compromise on their core belief, faith and principals regarding unity between Muslims [Itehad-Bainal-Muslimeen] or one should hesitate when it comes to their belief and faith what ever the consequences. I will continue this and issues regarding the third Shahada. Listen, I sincerely appologise if I have offended anybody or their belief, faith, point of view etc. That's not me.
Edited by Ameen, 17 March 2012 - 08:08 PM.