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[pakistanyar]

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Sunnis only hate those shias who curse companions and mothers of believers

Its more than hate its loving to blow up children during Eid Namaz and encouaging this kind of behavior.

And you have people defending and praising these attacks

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[Muntaqim Force]

Ayubi786, on 08 March 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Rasul

At that time Iran was occupied by filth

http://en.wikipedia....nvasion_of_Iran


Ayubi786:

Brother rasul mr muntaqim force copy pasted the site as evidence against a 3rd khalif ra and by doing that he is stating he agrees with the contents of the site, so i did the same from the same site just by SCANNING but if i looked more into it ( which i havent the slightest interest to do so) it will bring up more bull.
Look at the sites name evil lolz
Hence i say it makes weak argument and makes the person using the argument look stupid!

Mr Ayub my point of pasting that link from such website was not if as i believe in that organisation but to show you that people who got nothing to do with Islam and their personalities, nothing to with Shia/Sunni, nothing to do with any religion at all even claims your 3rd king to be the evil person.

[Ayubi786]

Mr muntaqim force:


Mr Ayub my point of pasting that link from such website was not if as i believe in that organisation but to show you that people who got nothing to do with Islam and their personalities, nothing to with Shia/Sunni, nothing to do with any religion at all even claims your 3rd king to be the evil person.



Ayubi786:
Lolz that was nice of you TO POST SOMETHING NEGATIVE AGAINST OUR 3rd KHALEEF  how come on the same site it states NWO WAS CREATED IN TEHRAN BY US AND UK and you never posted that??
OR IS IT PICK AND CHOOSE AGAIN LIKE MOST OF YOU DO IN HERE??

[Aly ReZa]

who cares whether they like us or not
We dont like the enemy and oppresors of janabe fatema zehra s.a
And their enemies are our enemies.

[Philip]

Each one of us here shall die alone and get judged individually in a unique one-in-a-kind fashion .. So our goal is to be loved by Allah

Being loved by Allah will make us among the other people that Allah loves .. namely His prophets .. Their families and followers

However, the true focus here is to become "mahbub" or loved  by Allah

.. Each one in his/her own level

.. In relation to their chosen imams ( role models / leaders ) .. with imam having a unique relationship with Allah SWT ... whether good or bad

[Ace Abbas]

Aly ReZa, on 12 March 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

who cares whether they like us or not
We dont like the enemy and oppresors of janabe fatema zehra s.a
And their enemies are our enemies.

How could we (the Sunnis) become the enemies of Fatimah az-Zahra when we say that she is the first woman who's going to jannah?

[Righteous]

Ace Abbas, on 12 March 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

How could we (the Sunnis) become the enemies of Fatimah az-Zahra when we say that she is the first woman who's going to jannah?

By association i would say.

SUnnis believer and revere her opressors.

[Aly ReZa]

mr.ace most pepl in u believe dat prophet s.a.w.w. Had 4 daughter
i will just say dat u can increase as much u want but the fact is that she s.a was only 1 and she was not happy with ur bloody Caliphs coz
U knw what they lanatis did with her.

[singham]

Aly ReZa, on 13 March 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

mr.ace most pepl in u believe dat prophet s.a.w.w. Had 4 daughter
i will just say dat u can increase as much u want but the fact is that she s.a was only 1 and she was not happy with ur bloody Caliphs coz
U knw what they lanatis did with her.

but there are shii sources which state that prophet had four daughters.

http://www.revivinga...ophet-have.html

[Aly ReZa]

singham u pepl can make as much u want but the truth is even dat 1 s.a is not happy with u

[Ace Abbas]

Aly ReZa, on 13 March 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

singham u pepl can make as much u want but the truth is even dat 1 s.a is not happy with u

Oh, you could see ghayb things? You know who she likes and who she hates eh? Cool! Are you a nabi?

[Aly ReZa]

no kiddo m not a nabi but a true follower of nabi who does not follow any lanati corrupted coward sahabah understood
U knw wat ur lanati caliphs did with her s.a.
Bloody cowards running frm battlefield and oppresing on a lady huh

[Ace Abbas]

Aly ReZa, on 13 March 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

no kiddo m not a nabi but a true follower of nabi who does not follow any lanati corrupted coward sahabah understood
U knw wat ur lanati caliphs did with her s.a.
Bloody cowards running frm battlefield and oppresing on a lady huh

If you're not nabi, then how come you know who Lady Fatimah az-Zahra likes and who she hates? Wow. You have kashf! You should be respected like other awliya!

Peace is better than war. Oppressing a lady? No they didn't. If they did, why would Imam Ali named his sons Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman?

How about the marriage of Ayatollah Khomeini with the 6-year-old girl? Isn't that oppressing enough?

[aliasghark]

Ace Abbas, on 13 March 2012 - 01:49 AM, said:

Oh, you could see ghayb things? You know who she likes and who she hates eh? Cool! Are you a nabi?

Maybe he's just reading Sahih Bukhari:

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From http://hasnain.wordp...ith-1st-caliph/
http://www.sahih-buk...ukhari_4_53.php Volume 4, Book 53, Number 325 :
Narrated by ‘Aisha
(mother of the believers) After the death of Allah ‘s Apostle Fatima the daughter of Allah’s Apostle asked Abu Bakr As-Siddiq to give her, her share of inheritance from what Allah’s Apostle had left of the Fai (i.e. booty gained without fighting) which Allah had given him. Abu Bakr said to her, “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Our property will not be inherited, whatever we (i.e. prophets) leave is Sadaqa (to be used for charity).” Fatima, the daughter of Allah’s Apostle got angry and stopped speaking to Abu Bakr, and continued assuming that attitude till she died. Fatima remained alive for six months after the death of Allah’s Apostle. She used to ask Abu Bakr for her share from the property of Allah’s Apostle which he left at Khaibar, and Fadak, and his property at Medina (devoted for charity). Abu Bakr refused to give her that property and said, “I will not leave anything Allah’s Apostle used to do, because I am afraid that if I left something from the Prophet’s tradition, then I would go astray.” (Later on) Umar gave the Prophet’s property (of Sadaqa) at Medina to ‘Ali and ‘Abbas, but he withheld the properties of Khaibar and Fadak in his custody and said, “These two properties are the Sadaqa which Allah’s Apostle used to use for his expenditures and urgent needs. Now their management is to be entrusted to the ruler.” (Az-Zuhrl said, “They have been managed in this way till today.”)
—-
http://www.sahih-buk...ukhari_5_57.php
Volume 5, Book 57, Number 61 :
Narrated by Al-Miswar bin Makhrama
Allah’s Apostle said, “Fatima is a part of me, and he who makes her angry, makes me angry.”
—
http://www.sahih-buk...ukhari_4_53.php
Volume 4, Book 53, Number 336 :
Narrated by ‘Abdullah
The Prophet stood up and delivered a sermon, and pointing to ‘Aisha’s house (i.e. eastwards), he said thrice, “Affliction (will appear from) here,” and, “from where the side of the Satan’s head comes out (i.e. from the East).”

http://hasnain.wordp...ith-1st-caliph/

[Aly ReZa]

u bakri stop speakin nonsense abut the ayatullahs nobody in my caste has oppressed any lady like urs
Maula ali a.s son name umar usman lol this made my day.
fake leader
fake follower
Fake history
fake info
Fake beliefs
And the last resort is original hell.

[Philip]

incredible how people react when you confront them with undisputed evidence from their own sources .. and they just ignore it !! subhan Allah ..

The example of the two parties is like the blind and deaf, and the seeing and hearing. Are they equal in comparison? Then, will you not remember? 11:24



the people who hate the shia today are like the people who hated the shia at the battle of the camel .. and they will most likely be like the "muslims" who will battle the grandson of the prophet the mahdi .. there is little difference between the situation of old and the situation coming up .. history repeating itself again and again ..

.. and they come up with excuses again and again why people who upset ahl bayt are ok .. and that even though they upset them .. actually they didn't upset them .. absurd !! and they will refuse to listen to the ahlul bayt side of the story ..

They deceive Allah and those who believe, but they deceive not except themselves and perceive it not. 2:9


incredible how people ignore the obvious !! mashaAllah ..

In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they used to lie. 2:10

[Philip]

And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers." 2:11

.. this is probably what aisha said on her way to war with the imam of the time and his followers

.. and those people who think it's ok that through her thousands of muslims were killed .. they are unknowingly taking part in this crime ..


Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive it not. 2:12

.. fits them perfectly mashaAllah .. they think the people who corrupt and kill and upset and oppress the best of muslims are good while they're not ..

And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know it not. 2:13

.. the foolish here being the shia for instance .. or in case of aisha & co .. that would be the ahl bayt.

And when they meet those who believe, they say, "We believe"; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, "Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers." 2:14

.. this is kind of like the saudi grandmasters of the sunat al munafiqeen .. who have taken charge of the 'suni' world in their sneaky fashion ..


Allah mocks them and prolongs them in their transgression while they wander blindly. 2:15

.. this is so when they get to judgment day, there will be ultimate justice served .. without excuses

Those are the ones who have purchased error for guidance, so their transaction has brought no profit, nor were they guided. 2:16

.. error = enemies of ahl bayt .... guidance = ahl bayt (especially the chosen imams of islam)


Their example is that of one who kindled a fire, but when it illuminated what was around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness they could not see. 2:17

.. this aya goes to show that even after some "sahaba" for instance .. after they had some faith and could see .. Allah took it away. again, explaining how it's possible to be faithful one day & not the next

Deaf, dumb and blind - so they will not return 2:18

.. here Allah talking about the hopeless cases

Or like a rainstorm from the sky within which is darkness, thunder and lightning. They put their fingers in their ears against the thunderclaps in dread of death. But Allah is encompassing of the disbelievers. 2:19

.. this one reminds me too much of times when i show sunis from their own sources that ahl bayt was suppressed and upset .. and from quran that being a wife is no guarantee .. then they bark the same old stories of "but they were his wives !! but they were his friends !!! " .. i wonder if these people have any faith in God to start with .. maybe they are all pretending .. or maybe their panicking is making their minds very blocked .. i don't know

The lightning almost snatches away their sight. Every time it lights for them, they walk therein; but when darkness comes over them, they stand. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken away their hearing and their sight. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent. 2:20

[Isner]

I have many sunni friends and they are much like us. I personally never found any one sunni disgracing us. I've heard some incidents but never came accross any one personally

[Philip]

those might be "sunis" who don't know anything about ahl bayt history of being oppressed .. in other words .. they don't know much about their religion

but there are "sunis" who know .. and still ignore it ..

i think it's more than obvious to any "suni" that it's not in the "suna" of Allah and the prophet to oppress the prophet's family .. and to wage war against them .. and kill thousands of people .. it's a clear-cut case that does not need much intelligence to figure out

.. may i add .. thousands of muslims who are defending the prophet's family and whom "sunis" call the 4th rightful caliph .. while few can deny that he was the closest and most beloved man to the prophet .. and father of his lineage .. it's so obvious it hurts !

[Ace Abbas]

aliasghark, on 13 March 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

Maybe he's just reading Sahih Bukhari:



http://hasnain.wordp...ith-1st-caliph/

I was talking about Aly Reza who made his own assumption that Lady Fatimah az-Zahra hates me. I was teasing whether he knows ghayb things (like who Lady Fatimah az-Zahra likes and who she hates) and technically he implies that Lady Fatimah az-Zahra hates me even though Lady Fatimah never MET him in real life and told him, "I hate Ace Abbas". This has nothing to do with the hadith of Abu Bakr . You don't understand what I was trying to say and you are trying to play with words.

Aly ReZa, on 13 March 2012 - 02:32 AM, said:

u bakri stop speakin nonsense abut the ayatullahs nobody in my caste has oppressed any lady like urs
Maula ali a.s son name umar usman lol this made my day.
fake leader
fake follower
Fake history
fake info
Fake beliefs
And the last resort is original hell.

Oh really? Well, tell this lotfilms guy then.

http://www.shiachat....rumaruthman-tf/

Do some reference on what your honorable Shaykh al-Mufid has written in your honorable book, al-Irshad.

Edited by Ace Abbas, 13 March 2012 - 06:07 AM.

[Ace Abbas]

Isner, on 13 March 2012 - 04:50 AM, said:

I have many sunni friends and they are much like us. I personally never found any one sunni disgracing us. I've heard some incidents but never came accross any one personally

When you come to ShiaChat, it's a different thing. Because people on ShiaChat are more on debating who is right and who is wrong.

Nice to know that you're doing fine with your Sunni friends in real life.

[aliasghark]

Ace Abbas, on 13 March 2012 - 06:06 AM, said:

I was talking about Aly Reza who made his own assumption that Lady Fatimah az-Zahra hates me. I was teasing whether he knows ghayb things (like who Lady Fatimah az-Zahra likes and who she hates) and technically he implies that Lady Fatimah az-Zahra hates me even though Lady Fatimah never MET him in real life and told him, "I hate Ace Abbas". This has nothing to do with the hadith of Abu Bakr . You don't understand what I was trying to say and you are trying to play with words.

Okay. I was under the impression that you were referring to the feelings of Lady Fatima s.a. towards the caliph.

I wasn't trying to play with words though (how do you know my intentions?), please refrain from making such accusations.

[Ace Abbas]

aliasghark, on 13 March 2012 - 06:09 AM, said:

Okay. I was under the impression that you were referring to the feelings of Lady Fatima s.a. towards the caliph.

I wasn't trying to play with words though (how do you know my intentions?), please refrain from making such accusations.

I'm sorry then.

[Basim Ali]

I too used to think the same before. As someone who has lived in a predominantly Sunni area my entire life, I've seen a lot of hating Sunnis (several neutral and loving ones too). Some were neutral on the outside but burning with detestation inside. Some openly hated saying: 'Oh you're Shia? Tsk tsk astaghfirullah'!
It may have been depressing and angering at first but I've slowly come around to accepting that it's not the individuals' fault that they're overflowing with abhorrence.  
With their top scholars feeding them such BS, I don't think any individual is to blame:

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Q) I have a question, if Animal is slaughter by shi'a even though they follow as Shari'ah prescribed us That he slaughters it via the known way specified by shari'ah and he speaks the name of Allah upon it. In North America, there are lot of Shi'a working in the slaughter house. But after knowing the fact their believe of Quran and your several answer said " Shi'as are not Muslims" are we allow to consume meat slaughter by shi'a. Thanks


A)Shi'as are not Muslims. It is not permissible to consume meat slaughtered by Shi'as.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
http://www.islam.tc/...q=6237&act=view

[Aly ReZa]

its out of the topic
Here we are talking about the likes and dislike
i gave u a reason why i hate sunnis in a simple way
and u have made some allegations against our leaders.
Even u knw frm inside hw ur caliphs were so juz chuck it
I am not over here to fight and abuse
It will result into nothing but hatred.