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[Noura]

Should all militias in lebanon including hezbollah's militia and those of the salfist in Tripoli be disarmed, and should Lebanon invest in gun control? Should there be only one Lebanese army that protects lebanon and keeps its safe or should all of lebanon's parties have milita's for their interest, and should lebanon care about the palestinians for the exception of the huge number of palestinians that live in lebanon ?

[ShiaBen]

Noura, on 24 February 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

Should all militias in lebanon including hezbollah's militia and those of the salfist in Tripoli be disarmed, and should Lebanon invest in gun control? Should there be only one Lebanese army that protects lebanon and keeps its safe or should all of lebanon's parties have milita's for their interest, and should lebanon care about the palestinians for the exception of the huge number of palestinians that live in lebanon ?

Most of your questions have already been answered as history has shown.

1. Hezbollah was a response to the inability of the Lebanese army to defend Lebanon. The Lebanese army pimped Lebanon to Israel. After the Lebanese war, Hezbollah was formed as a response to prevent Lebanon from becoming captured, destroyed, and exploited by Israel.

2. There shouldn't just be one Lebanese army, as history suggests, that the one army they did have, worked against the people, not in favor of them. As a result, Hezbollah is there to "check" the Lebanese Army to make sure its well trained and armed to defend Lebanon against Israel, not defend Israel against Lebanon.

3. Lebanese have shown great amounts of support for the Palestinians in the past during war crisis and poverty and Palestinians responded by launching pogroms against their Christian and Shiite neighbors. So that will be up to the Lebanese to decide. They still give some aid, but they're not solely responsible for Palestinians because they're primarily and chiefly responsible for their own citizens as the country is called "Lebanon" not Jordan, not Palestine.

Edited by ShiaBen, 24 February 2012 - 05:02 PM.

[John Al-Ameli]

Noura

I give you 0/10 on politics.

Go try Mathematics.

[Noura]

The Lebanese army is the most popular institute in the country everyone is in the army, why should hezbollah have arms or rockets if there is a lebanese army ?

[Shamali]

Noura, on 28 February 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

The Lebanese army is the most popular institute in the country everyone is in the army, why should hezbollah have arms or rockets if there is a lebanese army ?

Because Iran says so. Lebanon is not a sovereign country, as long as Hezbollah is armed.

[ShiaBen]

To prevent Kurdish separatists such as Shamali and Gulf Arab slaves like Noura from exploiting Lebanon like they have in the past.

[John Al-Ameli]

Noura, on 28 February 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

The Lebanese army is the most popular institute in the country everyone is in the army, why should hezbollah have arms or rockets if there is a lebanese army ?

Because the Lebanese Army, is limited, and is prohibited from owning sophisticated weapons.

Shamali, on 28 February 2012 - 11:47 PM, said:

Because Iran says so. Lebanon is not a sovereign country, as long as Hezbollah is armed.

Well then please Allah keep Iran safe, because as long as its safe, Jabal Amel is safe.

[aliasghark]

Noura, on 28 February 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

The Lebanese army is the most popular institute in the country

Citation needed.

Noura, on 28 February 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

why should hezbollah have arms or rockets if there is a lebanese army ?

So that Lebanon can be defended against Israeli terrorism (as history shows, the Lebanese army is too weak to defend Lebanon).

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

Noura, on 28 February 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

The Lebanese army is the most popular institute in the country everyone is in the army, why should hezbollah have arms or rockets if there is a lebanese army ?

Can the LA protect jnoub if the Israelis attack again? Do you know what life was like before south lebs decided to take matters into their own hands? The region had to deal with French Occupation, Palestinian Occupation and Israeli Occupation, whilst the State was helpless and unwilling to lift a finger. Lebanon is volatile and can turn into a failed state overnight. Unless REAL assurances of security are given that the people of jnoub are protected, you can forget it.

Until real protection can be provided, anyone who lays a hand on south leb's defences, will have it chopped off. No ifs and no buts. If people don't like it, tough.

[Noura]

There is no occupation in Lebanon, the Isralies left in 2000, the Syrians left in 05 and since then for the exception of 06  no one has tried to mess with Lebanon, and the security forces have uncovered all the spies, took care of the terrorists in naher el bared and protected Lebanon, what security does Hezbollah's rockets provide to anyone, it is more of a threat then a security, it provides a reason for Lebanon to be isolated from the civilized world then to be more integrated with the civilized world?

[ImAli]

Ya Aba 3abdillah, on 29 February 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

Can the LA protect jnoub if the Israelis attack again?

They can serve them tea and biscuits

[Noura]

^

http://www.lebarmy.g...?ln=en&id=12397

[Shamali]

As of today, their is NO reason for Hezbollah to be armed. Lebanon is no longer occupied. Weapons should be only a privilege for the Lebanese National Army, not an Iranian proxy, who want to turn Lebanon into another Shia theocracy, at the mercy of Iran.

[ImAli]

Wow a kurd that knows what is best for Lebanon.....you have to love this Shamali guy.

[Shamali]

ImAli, on 29 February 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

Wow a kurd that knows what is best for Lebanon.....you have to love this Shamali guy.

No your right, Iran knows whats best for Lebanon .

And for your information smartguy, their is a Kurdish minority in Lebanon.

[ImAli]

But you're an Iraqi Kurd right?

By the way, receiving support from a place doesn't automatically make you a proxy.

I'm not a guy either.

[Shamali]

ImAli, on 29 February 2012 - 10:10 AM, said:

But you're an Iraqi Kurd right?

By the way, receiving support from a place doesn't automatically make you a proxy.

I'm not a guy either.

Yes I am an Iraqi Kurd. And I do not see you complaining about all the Iranians, Indians, Pakistanis , and God knows who, speaking about affairs in Lebanon. So that is a weak response on your part. Especially since Kurds have a presence and history in the Levant.

Sorry didn't read your username ImAli. And everyone knows that Hezbollah receives more than just "support" from Iran.

[ImAli]

Shamali, on 29 February 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

Yes I am an Iraqi Kurd. And I do not see you complaining about all the Iranians, Indians, Pakistanis , and God knows who, speaking about affairs in Lebanon. So that is a weak response on your part. Especially since Kurds have a presence and history in the Levant.

Sorry didn't read your username ImAli. And everyone knows that Hezbollah receives more than just "support" from Iran.

But wait! I am quite sure the people you support receive aid from the terrorist Saudi scum. Now please go join Hariri's twitter feed and type your grievances there because your opinion is sure to make a difference.

[Abu Muslim]

ImAli, on 29 February 2012 - 10:10 AM, said:

But you're an Iraqi Kurd right?

By the way, receiving support from a place doesn't automatically make you a proxy.

I'm not a guy either.

Hizbullah IS a proxy - when Iran falls then Hizbullah will fall as well. Hizbullah depends on Iran for everything, that's why all the IRI fanboys/fangirls rush to justify hezbollah being armed. Why doesn't hezbollah integrate itself into the Lebanese army?

[shiasoldier786]

Even the Christian Lebanese President is proud of Hezbollah.

http://www.naharnet....feat-to-lebanon


President Michel Suleiman condemned on Thursday Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s recent statements on Lebanon, saying that its existence will not be affected by his remarks.

He added in a statement: “Lebanon is the only country to have defeated Israel militarily and the Jewish state is still recovering from it.”

[ImAli]

Abu Muslim, on 29 February 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

Hizbullah IS a proxy - when Iran falls then Hizbullah will fall as well. Hizbullah depends on Iran for everything, that's why all the IRI fanboys/fangirls rush to justify hezbollah being armed. Why doesn't hezbollah integrate itself into the Lebanese army?

No they justify Hezbollah being armed because they fear what will happen if hezbollah disarms. As for integration into the Lebanese army.....I guess they aren't up to serving tea and biscuits to the Israelis (like I said earlier). Hezbollah is Lebanese not Iranian...they are not a proxy.

I swear some of you people act like it will turn into Lebiran or something LOL.....

shiasoldier786, on 29 February 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

Even the Christian Lebanese President is proud of Hezbollah.

http://www.naharnet....feat-to-lebanon


President Michel Suleiman condemned on Thursday Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s recent statements on Lebanon, saying that its existence will not be affected by his remarks.

He added in a statement: “Lebanon is the only country to have defeated Israel militarily and the Jewish state is still recovering from it.”

Yeah and Netenyahu said there is not such thing as Lebanon on the world map

(They say they have no plans of attacking Lebanon....Yeah! Then they say there is no such thing as Lebanon. HMMMMMM sounds strange.

"But you said you wouldn't attack Lebanon"

"That was not an attack against Lebanon....there is no such thing as Lebanon"

Read between the lines people)

Edited by ImAli, 29 February 2012 - 11:44 AM.

[ShiaBen]

Abu, Noura, Shamil, would love nothing more than to see Christians, Sunnis, and Shiites get slayed in Lebanon again like the Israeli invasion and Lebanese civil war.

It works in their favor because they are the slaves of the blood thirsty Gulf Sheikhs.



ROTFL

I love their logic: "There hasn't been an Israel invasion recently, therefore they should automatically disarm"

Yes, automatically disarm...................................... while Israel remains armed.........yes makes logical sense.

So they should let Israel invade again, spend ANOTHER good 15 years destroying Lebanon and its civilians.

THEN, they should rearm themselves again. Yes makes perfect sense......

Edited by ShiaBen, 29 February 2012 - 12:16 PM.

[John Al-Ameli]

Noura, on 29 February 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

There is no occupation in Lebanon, the Isralies left in 2000, the Syrians left in 05 and since then for the exception of 06  no one has tried to mess with Lebanon,

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According to a statement issued by the Lebanese army on Tuesday, an Israeli reconnaissance plane violated Lebanese airspace above Naqoura at 9:40 a.m. local time on Monday and conducted circular flights over Beirut, Shouf, and southern areas. The statement added that the Israeli aircraft left Lebanon's airspace above Rmeish village at 6:15 a.m. local time on Tuesday.

Two Israeli warplanes violated Lebanese airspace at 8:10 a.m. local time on Tuesday, conducted circular flights above various Lebanese regions, and then left the country's airspace above Alma al-Shaab at 9:40 a.m. local time, the Lebanese army said in another statement issued on Tuesday.

That was yesterday. And every couple of days, israeli war planes penetrate our sky.

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and the security forces have uncovered all the spies,

It was Hezbollah who uncovered the spies. And after they finish from them, they give them to the Army.

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what security does Hezbollah's rockets provide to anyone, it is more of a threat then a security, it provides a reason for Lebanon to be isolated from the civilized world then to be more integrated with the civilized world?

Why is it that when Hezbollah was born, that israel occupied Lebanon?
On the other hand, I don't blame you, we have a Imam who taught us, but you don't.

[Noura]

Roachy there is no Isralie occupation of Lebanon it ended in 00, the isralies would have no reason or even excuse they could use for their allies to come to lebanon for the exception of the rockets of hezbollah, why is there a need for hezbollah's rockets when there is a lebanese army that guards the borders of lebanon ? ? ?

Edited by Noura, 29 February 2012 - 03:25 PM.

[ShiaBen]

Noura, on 29 February 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Roachy there is no Isralie occupation of Lebanon it ended in 00, the isralies would have no reason or even excuse they could use for their allies to come to lebanon for the exception of the rockets of hezbollah, why is there a need for hezbollah's rockets when there is a lebanese army that guards the borders of lebanon ? ? ?

Maybe because that same Lebanese Army invites Israel over to drop more bombs on the country.