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[AlphaMale_ASAD]

Assalaymu alaykom, what are the traits of a good Muslim man?

Being quiet?
Talking only when you have to?
Not being too playful?

What do u guys think the traits are?
Jazaak Allah khairun.

[El Cid]

Those arne't Muslim man traits, that's Wussy man traits. ^^

Shia traits:
1. Brave
2. Outspoken
3. Respectful personailities.
4. Leaders
5. Steadfast in faith.

Edited by El Cid, 11 February 2012 - 12:26 PM.

[AlphaMale_ASAD]

El Cid, on 11 February 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

These arne't Muslim man traits, that's Wussy man traits.

Shia traits:
1. Brave
2. Outspoken
3. Respectful personailities.
4. Leaders
5. Steadfast in faith.

Elaborate on 3.

[hkmohamad]

Shia traits are in my opinion ,

a man of his words , does not back down

shows respect not to only himself but to others

i think those r 2 most important

[AlphaMale_ASAD]

I'm speaking on his every day demeanor. Not characteristics. Like how does he talk? Does he joke alot? Etc

[Aly ReZa]

pious
and to have a strong faith on wilayat of ali a.s
And to love his lover and to be the enemy of his enemies.

[Awaiting_for_the12th]

Nothing but complete submission

[AlphaMale_ASAD]

None of u guys are answering the question correctly. None of u. Here's the best explanation of my question which isn't hard to understand.

"how does HE TALK, is he loud mouthed or quiet. Does he start random convos. Does he makes lots of jokes. Does he smile alot. How does he adress people" in other words HIS EVERY DAY DEMEANOR.

Stop complicating things or debating. Take it else where to another thread.

[El Cid]

Asadullabdallah, on 11 February 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

None of u guys are answering the question correctly. None of u. Here's the best explanation of my question which isn't hard to understand.

"how does HE TALK, is he loud mouthed or quiet. Does he start random convos. Does he makes lots of jokes. Does he smile alot. How does he adress people" in other words HIS EVERY DAY DEMEANOR.

Stop complicating things or debating. Take it else where to another thread.

Your question is illogical.. We're all people, we act the way we are raised or want to behave. It doesn't matter what religion you are. S_D has given you perfect qualities of a Shi'a Muslim already. You don't judge a person by how much he talks in a day or how many "jokes" he cracks.

We're all different and special in our own way, Not programmed robots.

[AlphaMale_ASAD]

El Cid, on 11 February 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

Your question is illogical.. We're all people, we act the way we are raised or want to behave. It doesn't matter what religion you are. S_D has given you perfect qualities of a Shi'a Muslim already. You don't judge a person by how much he talks in a day or how many "jokes" he cracks.

We're all different and special in our own way, Not programmed robots.

So much for following sunnah right? Or emulation of our nabi saws actions? If my prophet saws didnt talk loud then I don't want to. If he didn't joke then I don't want to. Etc go and forth and forth. Remind me not to ask a question on SC. no one holds a Convo to simplicity and decides what's the best answer for u and not what u "WANT TO HEAR AS A ANSWER WHEN IT'S UR OWN QUESTION" if It ain't the type of answer I'm looking for than it ain't a good answer to the question. I set the standards for the type of answer I want to my own question. Not the peope answering.

[El Cid]

Asadullabdallah, on 11 February 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

So much for following sunnah right? Or emulation of our nabi saws actions? If my prophet saws didnt talk loud then I don't want to. If he didn't joke then I don't want to. Etc go and forth and forth. Remind me not to ask a question on SC. no one holds a Convo to simplicity and decides what's the best answer for u and not what u "WANT TO HEAR AS A ANSWER WHEN IT'S UR OWN QUESTION" if It ain't the type of answer I'm looking for than it ain't a good answer to the question. I set the standards for the type of answer I want to my own question. Not the peope answering.

Your answer is now illogical. Good day I will leave it to the next guy to waste time with you.

[mun3t]

An Interesting narration. Explaining the true values and morals of a submitter (Muslim) to Allah, Mighty and Exalted. Exceeding your request.

The Prophet (SAWA) said, ’The angel Gabriel came to me and said, ’O Prophet of Allah, indeed, Allah has sent me to you with a gift that no one before you has ever been given.’ The Prophet (SAWA) asked: ‘What is it?’ He said: ‘Patience, and something even better than that.’ The Prophet (SAWA) asked: ‘And what may that be?’ He replied: ‘Contentment, and something even better than that.’ The Prophet (SAWA) asked: ‘And what is that?’ To which he replied: ‘Satisfaction, and something even better than that.’ The Prophet (SAWA) asked: ‘And what might that be?’ He replied: ‘Asceticism (zuhd), and something else even better.’ The Prophet (SAWA) asked: ‘And what is that?’ He replied: ‘Sincerity, and something even better.’ The Prophet (SAWA) asked: ‘And what is that?’ He replied: ‘Conviction, and something even better.’ The Prophet (SAWA) asked: ‘And what is that, O Gabriel?’ To which he replied: ‘The forerunner to that is complete reliance on Allah, Mighty and Exalted.’ So I, the Prophet, asked: ‘And what is complete reliance on Allah?’ He replied: ‘It is to know that a creature of Allah can neither harm nor benefit, nor give nor withhold. It is to remove any hope one may have in mere creatures. If a servant is like this, who does not do anything for anyone from Allah, and he does not desire anything from anyone except Allah, then this is complete reliance.’

I said: ‘O Gabriel, what is the significance of patience?’ He replied: ‘It is to be patient in both good times as well as bad, in poverty as well as in wealth, in times of tribulation as well as in comfort. It is such that the servant does not complain of his situation or any adversity that has befallen him to any other creature.’

I asked: ‘Then what is the significance of contentment?’ He replied, ‘It is to be contented with whatever is bestowed on him in the world, to be contented with the little he has and to be grateful for the simple things.’

Then I asked: ‘What is the significance of satisfaction?’ He replied: ‘The one who is satisfied does not resent his Master for what has befallen him (or not been bestowed on him) in this world, neither is he satisfied with himself for carrying out mere simple actions.’

Then I asked: ‘O Gabriel, then what is the significance of asceticism?’ To which he replied, ‘He loves whatever his Creator loves, and dislikes whatever his Creator dislikes; he refrains from even the lawful things (halal) in this world and does not even glance at the prohibited (haram) things, as he considers the lawful thins to be accountable and the prohibited things as a punishment. He has mercy on all Muslims as well as on himself. He abstains from talking as one would abstain from a corpse whose stench was unbearably strong. He abstains from the vanities and adornment of this world just as if he were running away from the fire that was consuming them and reducing his hopes. He always has [awareness of] his death in front of him.’

I asked: ‘O Gabriel, what is the significance of sincerity?’ He replied: ‘The sincere person is one who does not ask anyone for anything until he finds it, and when he finds it himself, he is satisfied. If he has anything left over, he gives it away in the way of Allah. And in his satisfaction in finding it, it is with Allah that he is satisfied, and Allah is pleased with him in turn. In his giving for the sake of Allah, it is as if he has trusted his Lord.’

I asked: ‘What is the significance of conviction?’ He replied, ‘The believer acts for Allah as if he sees Him, for even if he does not see Allah, Allah still sees him. And it is to know with full certainty that which befalls him does not do so in order to make him fail, nor is his failure meant as a tribulation from him. These are all branches of complete reliance (on Allah) and forerunners to asceticism.[1]



[1] Ma’ani al-Akhbar, p. 260, no. 1

[hkmohamad]

Asadullabdallah, on 11 February 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

So much for following sunnah right? Or emulation of our nabi saws actions? If my prophet saws didnt talk loud then I don't want to. If he didn't joke then I don't want to. Etc go and forth and forth. Remind me not to ask a question on SC. no one holds a Convo to simplicity and decides what's the best answer for u and not what u "WANT TO HEAR AS A ANSWER WHEN IT'S UR OWN QUESTION" if It ain't the type of answer I'm looking for than it ain't a good answer to the question. I set the standards for the type of answer I want to my own question. Not the peope answering.

What the hell brother , why use this kind of langauge ?

[AlphaMale_ASAD]

hkmohamad, on 11 February 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

What the hell brother , why use this kind of langauge ?

..............

[3laweyaZainabiya]

This thread is .... Can't find the word.

Anyways you guys are missing an important key here. I could summarize every little aspect of a Muslim Shia man into a few men.
The prophet (saws) Imam Ali imam Hasan imam Hussein Abbas etc...

You guys have the most eloquent role models.
Follow them. I'm telling you, there is nothing more impressive than to see a man with a high level of piety.

And for the record, there are narrations that imam Ali used to joke around every once in a while....

[Awaiting_for_the12th]

3laweyaZainabiya, on 12 February 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

And for the record, there are narrations that imam Ali used to joke around every once in a while....

do you have any references that you can share about that?

[3laweyaZainabiya]

>.< I heard the Hadith in a lecture... It's been a while. I'll try to look for it.

[worshiper]

i suppose the talent of a good listener is to understand what a person is speaking

polite, humble, jolly to depressed, obedient(nt to shaitan), learning, understanding, conscientious, loving, caring, pious,

i think a person havin all these qualities cannot be hated by anyone.

[Laayla]

Shia_Debater, on 11 February 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

In modern times, the term Shi’a is too loosely used. This term “Shi’a” is given to those who accept that Imam Ali had the divine right to the leadership of the Ummah both spiritually and politically. But what we must consider is, according to the great personalities of the 14 masoomeen, what is a Shi’a? I will present a few hadiths and respected brothers and sisters of any sect of Islam, I ask you to simply be sincere in questioning yourself if you meet this criteria.

1) Imam Ali gives a brief definintion of a Shia.

On a certain evening Imam Ali was departing from the Mosque. The surroundings were bright due to the moonlight. Imam Ali saw behind him a group of people walking towards him. He enquired as to who they were? They said: “We are your Shi’a.” Imam Ali looked at their faces carefully and said:
“Why is it that your faces do not exhibit any signs of you being a Shi’a?”
“Master, what are the signs of a Shi’a?”

Imam Ali replied “Their faces are pale due to excessive worship and the fear of Allah, their backs are bent due to prolonged prayers, too much fasting causes their abdomen to touch their backbones, their lips become dry by repeating endless invocations, and their hearts are filled with the fear of Allah.”

Even by these 3 lines an explanation of what a “Shi’a” is, the question arises, how many descriptions of this criteria do I actually meet?

2) Imam Baqir gives signs of a Shi’a.

Imam Muhammad al-Baqir , once said to one of his companions: “O Jabir! It is not enough that a person says; I am a Shi’a and I love the Holy Prophet Muhammad and the Holy Prophet Muhammad’s family (Ahlul Bayt) and the Imams. By Allah, a Shi’a is the one who is perfectly pious and obedient to Allah’s commands. Anyone else is not a Shi’a no matter how much they say they love Imam Ali (peace be upon him) and no matter what they call themselves.”

“O Jabir! Our Shi’a are known by these signs:

They are truthful, trustworthy and loyal;
They always remember Allah;
They offer their Prayers, observe fasts, and recite the Holy Qur’an;
They act nicely towards their parents;
They help their neighbours, take care of orphans, and say nothing but good of people;
They are worthy of people’s trust and confidence.”

Jabir was listening attentively. When the Imam Muhammad al-Baqir (peace be upon him) finished, Jabir said: “O son of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) among the Muslims there are very few who possess these qualities.”

Imam Muhammad al-Baqir replied: “Allah forbid you imagine that just to claim to love us is enough to be a Shi’a. No not at all. A person who says I love Imam Ali but doesn’t follow Imam Ali in actions is not the Shi’a of Imam Ali. Similarly, if a person says I love the Holy Prophet Muhammad but doesn’t follow the actions of the Holy Prophet Muhammad, his claim will be of no use to him.”

“O Jabir! Our real friend and Shi’a are obedient to the commands of Allah, and everyone who is disobedient to Allah is our enemy.”

“O Jabir! Always be pious and chaste, and perform good deeds so as to enjoy the blessings of the Paradise. Know that the best and most honourable before Allah are the pious and the chaste.”

“O Jabir! Without ‘ita’ah’ (obedience and submission), nobody can attain proximity to Allah. We do not like them to claim to be our friends if they do not fulfil all the conditions. A sinful person is our enemy. Without good deeds and abstinence from sins, any claim of friendship to us is of no avail.”

Again, another powerful explanation of what it really means to be a Shi’a of Ali .

The final example that will be presented is one I feel the Ummah is in most need of.

Imam Ali a.s : Our Shi’a, they spend on each other for the sake of our Wilayah, they love each other for the sake of our love, they visit each other for the sake of keeping alive our affair, they never oppress if they become angry with someone and they never become extravagant in their happiness, they are mercy for their neighbours, and a source of peace and security for those who live with them.

How many of us genuinely meet this criteria? We claim to be “Shi’a” yet we insult each other, denounce each other, use derogatory terms towards each other. If we are truly striving in the way of Ahlul Bayt and wish to gain their happiness in regards to us, then we should learn to be tolerant and love those who also claim to be shia! Even if your opinion of them isn’t that they’re Shi’a, Allah (swt) knows whats truly in their heart, and as The hadith says…”Love for the sake of our wilayah”

If you truly love the Ahlul Bayt and want to be Shi’a then keep steadfast to the hadiths they have given us to be true Shi’a! Love each other, be compassionate to each other, and jump at the opportunity to help each other! Even though you may have differences of opinion, keep steadfast to the advice of the Ahlul Bayt and learn to love each other as opposed to hate!

May Allah (swt) Help us to become true Shi’a and Prosper in the way of Ahlul Bayt !

http://ahlulakhlaq.w...ss.com/2011/10/

Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum Brother,

Maybe you can have this post pinned in the Ethics/Self Development Forum.  Thank you for sharing.  A wonderful reminder.

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah