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[halwahalwa_1.1]

Interesting Ayatollah.

Official Website : http://www.amasumi.net/

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Question:
What is the basis of “temporary marriage”? Do you not think that this would damage the foundation of families?

Answer:
I do not believe in the concept of “temporary marriage” by any means whatsoever.

Visit of Ayatollah AbdolHamid Masoumi Tehrani with the Grand Ayatollah Rohaani

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His cutting edge scholarship and the utmost delicacy of his approach to religious studies, led him to be noticed by Grand Ayatollahs Khoei, Golpayegani, and Marashi; he was considered to be credible, trustworthy and authentic. He was therefore authorised as an Ayatollah (Mujtahed) by those great names.

Edited by halwahalwa_1.1, 10 February 2012 - 08:49 AM.

[Çåá ÇáÈíÊ]

Another reason why I find the Taqleed system ridiculous.

[Abbas0]

Mut3ah was used in the prophet's days when men were off to war.
I really don't believe it's a good idea to be following that today.
But only Allah swt knows best!

[Haydar Husayn]

Abbas0, on 10 February 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

Mut3ah was used in the prophet's days when men were off to war.
I really don't believe it's a good idea to be following that today.
But only Allah swt knows best!

But then why did the Imams put so much importance on reviving the Sunnah of muta?

[Waiting for HIM]

اهل البيت, on 10 February 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:

Another reason why I find the Taqleed system ridiculous.

Another reason I believe you are following your own whims than the instructions of our Aimah .

[Haydar Husayn]

اهل البيت, on 10 February 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:

Another reason why I find the Taqleed system ridiculous.

Honestly, you have no leg to stand on. Until you start becoming more consistent in regards to what you accept and reject within the rest of Islam, you should just keep quiet on this subject. His reasons for rejecting muta are probably about as valid as yours for rejecting hijab.

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Haydar Husayn, on 10 February 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Honestly, you have no leg to stand on. Until you start becoming more consistent in regards to what you accept and reject within the rest of Islam, you should just keep quiet on this subject. His reasons for rejecting muta are probably about as valid as yours for rejecting hijab.

Don't you find it rather silly? So, basically, two radically opposing views both have legitimate standing? I could just whimsically believe whatever I want in Islam, and I know there's probably one oddball scholar out there who will support my view.

[Haydar Husayn]

اهل البيت, on 10 February 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Don't you find it rather silly? So, basically, two radically opposing views both have legitimate standing? I could just whimsically believe whatever I want in Islam, and I know there's probably one oddball scholar out there who will support my view.

I don't agree with taqlid, let alone with the idea that all the opinions of marjas are legitimate.

[Marbles]

That's something. Anyone knows more about this gentleman and his views?

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Haydar Husayn, on 10 February 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

I don't agree with taqlid, let alone with the idea that all the opinions of marjas are legitimate.

Finally, something we have in common. Good.

[Marbles]

Çåá ÇáÈíÊ, on 10 February 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Finally, something we have in common. Good.

What?? Haydar Husayn and Çåá ÇáÈíÊ agree on something?

This is one of those clear signs of Qiyamah.

Allahu Akbar. Khamenei Rahbar! *runs*

[thenamelessone]

I don't think this guy is for real. Honestly. He is against taqleed, says if you want to know if music is bad for you then ask a musician (?) tells u there is no sin in masturbation and that praying about it wont help you ( guess Allah does not help with our mundane problems) and to consult a physician. Something is seriously wrong with this picture.

Ma'a Salaama

[Khadim uz Zahra]

اهل البيت, on 10 February 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Don't you find it rather silly? So, basically, two radically opposing views both have legitimate standing? I could just whimsically believe whatever I want in Islam, and I know there's probably one oddball scholar out there who will support my view.

Ahlulbayt, just like Haydar said, if you find it logically inconsistent that two Marjas give differing rulings and they are both correct then you must acknowledge that not believing in Taqlid will lead a much worse situation as everyone is his own Mujtahid and everyone has his own views about XYZ. If you find this conflict between Marjas a reason for rejecting the system, can't I also use your conflict with HH on Hijab to say that since both of you are also disagreeing then your views, as a non-Taqleedi, are also flawed.

[Ugly Jinn]

Khadim uz Zahra, on 10 February 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Ahlulbayt, just like Haydar said, if you find it logically inconsistent that two Marjas give differing rulings and they are both correct then you must acknowledge that not believing in Taqlid will lead a much worse situation as everyone is his own Mujtahid and everyone has his own views about XYZ. If you find this conflict between Marjas a reason for rejecting the system, can't I also use your conflict with HH on Hijab to say that since both of you are also disagreeing then your views, as a non-Taqleedi, are also flawed.

Because:

1. The issue isn't 2 Marjas having opposing views, the main issue is that 2 contradictory rulings can be wajib, which fundamentally makes no sense because wajib means 'divinely obligated' according to Marja XYZ (i.e. disobeying equates to sin).

2. The fundamental difference is that his view is not 'wajib' on others, while marjas' views are. He is not claiming to be authorized to put forth his view as 'divine obligation'.

3. His view comes from his own intellect, rather than letting someone else do the thinking for him (taqlid). Not only that, for most cases, you can go through the list of Marjas/Ayatollahs and find someone that agrees with your view anyways.

Downgrading Taqleed from being wajibat to strongly recommended will resolve many technical issues.

Edited by Ugly Jinn, 10 February 2012 - 08:05 PM.

[Murtada]

No mut'ah? Disgusting. May Allah (swt) guide him.

[Dawud Miqdad al-Amriki]

This is why when one does Taqleed, they only use it for a guidance and aid, not blindly worshiping and following someone who is not even near the status of Abu Dhar let alone Ma'soomeen .

I do Taqleed only as a precaution and I don't believe we should follow rulings unless they give evidence for their ruling, not just their opinion.

So somebody ask this guy for his evidence, and let's see why he is saying what he says (I'm presuming is taqiyyah or Allahu 3lem)

[thenamelessone]

Dawud Miqdad al-Amriki, on 11 February 2012 - 03:06 AM, said:

This is why when one does Taqleed, they only use it for a guidance and aid, not blindly worshiping and following someone who is not even near the status of Abu Dhar let alone Ma'soomeen .

I do Taqleed only as a precaution and I don't believe we should follow rulings unless they give evidence for their ruling, not just their opinion.

So somebody ask this guy for his evidence, and let's see why he is saying what he says (I'm presuming is taqiyyah or Allahu 3lem)

I was being serious in my above post, (#14) I do not think this person is any ayatollah, I think this is someone who hates our religion (possibly a Sunni or a Christian) who is making a very serious attempt to lead people away from any manner of practicing Shia Islam and made a website in order to do just that.

If it was one thing that was a controversial ruling, I'd say ask, but there is nothing of his opinions that comes close to Islam. And he proves nothing on his site. This is someone making fun of shias and seeing how many people believe it or are willing to believe it.

[Gypsy]

who is this Ayatullah? what is religious credential?

[halwahalwa_1.1]

Gypsy, on 11 February 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

who is this Ayatullah? what is religious credential?

It's not a fake ayatollah.
He has a web site in farsi hosted in Iran.
http://www.amasumi.net/

Registrant:
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You can also see some pictures of him : http://peacefaith.bl...soumi_7847.html
An article from him : http://www.roozonlin...-gods-name.html
About him : http://www.ahmt.org/index.php/about

Abdol-Hamid Masoumi Tehrani began his religious studies and Arabic literature, together with other modules taught in public schools, with Ayatollah Seyed Abolfazl Naeini  in 1975. Following this he took further advantage of the knowledge of such religious scholars as Ayatollahs Ahady, Ansari, Sabt-Alsheikh, Hossein Saeid, Dawoodi, Jafari, Araaki, Kaahvand Boroojerdi, Grand Ayatollah Seyed Ahmad Khansaari and etceteras. His cutting edge scholarship and the utmost delicacy of his approach to religious studies, led him to be noticed by Grand Ayatollahs Khoei, Golpayegani, and Marashi; he was considered to be credible, trustworthy and authentic. He was therefore authorised as an Ayatollah (Mujtahed) by those great names.

[thenamelessone]

Is it possible for you to look and see if the rulings he gives on the Iranian site are different, is he saying on that site that there is no taqleed? Or that masturbation is not forbidden and the ahadith calling it forbidden are weak? Or that its not his job to say whether or not music is haram or halal? I would appreciate finding out if that site differs.JazakAllah khair

[halwahalwa_1.1]

thenamelessone, on 11 February 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

Is it possible for you to look and see if the rulings he gives on the Iranian site are different, is he saying on that site that there is no taqleed? Or that masturbation is not forbidden and the hadiths calling it forbidden are weak? Or that its not his job to say whether or not music is haram or halal? I would appreciate finding out if that site differs.JazakAllah khair

There is nothing wrong in his fatwas. Let see together.

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Imitation

Question:
I belong to Pakistan and I have always been taught that Taqleed (Blind Following) is necessary in Shia Islam. I want to confirm it from you whether it is necessary or unnecessary or what grounds it has in Shia Islam. I would expect an answer with arguments and references.

Answer:
Prophet of Islam was appointed in order to release the human being from the constraint of blind and unquestioned following and thereby lead them towards thinking, learning, and understanding. As verse 67 of Surah Al-Ahzab has dismissed blind following and imitation and highlighted it as blameworthy and defining such followers as those who are led astray from the right path.

He is saying "blind following" is not allowed, in the matter of Taqleed. This is not against Shia beliefs.

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Music

Question:
What is your opinion about music, especially Pop music? Is there a problem to listen to or perform music?

Answer:
Nowadays, there is a specialisation dedicated to each branch of science. You ought to therefore ask this question from a musician, and not people like me, as I am not specialised in musicology.

Undoubtedly, some sounds would psychologically be destructive to the human mind. However, it is not for me to define or specify them. Specialists in this area should highlight these matters and explain them accordingly.

God has created the world with sounds of music. On the other hand, human being has creatively innovated musical instruments. Music is a form of art; and therefore in my opinion, performing or listening to the songs that are verified by the specialists would be of no problem.

Anyhow, I am not in the position to speak of something that I am not specialised in.

He is saying that musicology is not his field of studies, so he can't give an appropriate anwser. And I don't see what is wrong with that ?

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Masturbation

Question:
What should be done if a person whose marital status is single commits masturbation?
Would you please highlight some of the relevant punishments in the hereafter?
Would you suggest a certain prayer for such a person (who commits masturbation)?
Would God forgive such a person if he realises his mistake, but continues doing it?

Answer:
In Quran, there is no verse that refers to masturbation as a sin, or otherwise defines any kind of prosecution for it. Also, the Hadiths referring to it are mostly weak and strongly against scientific definitions. I believe that there is no conflict between science and religion.

You must therefore see a specialist doctor. Prayers or things like them cannot solve such issues.

In accordance with Quran, God would certainly forgive someone who recognises his mistake, claims repentance and attempts to correct the mistakes he has made.

However, regarding the main point of your question, I have not seen any strong evidence signifying masturbation as a sin [in Islam].

He is saying that there is no such verse about masturbation in the Quran, and that's true.
When he says that prayers can't solve this problem, he is also true, because, if you don't want to masturbate yourself, then take some actions ie. marriage
Prayers were never been sufficient in any case without any actions. And then he is saying that there is no strong evidence that masturbation is a sin or not. Just go through ahadith about masturbation in Shia hadths books and see if they are reliable or weak.
Some Ayatollahs permit masturbation in very limited circumstances.

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Question:
What is the basis of “temporary marriage”? Do you not think that this would damage the foundation of families?

Answer:
I do not believe in the concept of “temporary marriage” by any means whatsoever.

He is saying that he doesn't believe in the concept of "temporary marriage". Since when "temporary marriage" is part of muslims system of beliefs, not even for the Shias ?
By the way, Surah 4 Verse 24, in not talking about Mutah. Some Shias are just trying to adjust hadiths to this verse (by extrapolating). [Please read some critical academic studies about Mutah and its history]

[siraatoaliyinhaqqun]

^^^ he found a muqallid too but mind you ; u will need a musician marjaa and doctor marjaa bcos this guy is not all in one.

[thenamelessone]

siraatoaliyinhaqqun, on 11 February 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

^^^ he found a muqallid too but mind you ; u will need a musician marjaa and doctor marjaa bcos this guy is not all in one.

LOL!  Can u be a muqallid to a marjaa who doesn't believe in taqleed? More like he is a consultant whom you cant consult for anything!

Edited by thenamelessone, 11 February 2012 - 10:10 PM.

[titumir]

He seems to be a total anti-Islamic pro-American pro-Zionist nut. He allegedly gifted a gold Torah to the US in a gesture of "friendship". He's a total traitor. Just look around his site. http://peacefaith.blogspot.com

urday, November 18, 2006


A gift from the nation of Iran to the nation and the government of the United States of America

In the name of God

By God’s grace, the calligraphic and illuminated transcript of <a href="http://peacefaith-pi...pictures.html">the holy Book of Psalms of David was delivered to the U.S. embassy in Ankara, by The Mission Group of Peace for All, as a gift from all Iranians who fight for freedom, to the nation and the government of the United States of America.

This precious artistic and spiritual work is written in Hebrew and Farsi languages. Ayatollah AbdolHamid Masoumi Tehrani has done the calligraphy of this work, and Prof. Mehdi Bahman has done the illumination of its pages.

This precious book is a gift from the nation of Iran to the nation and the government of the United States of America and bears the message that Iranians desire friendship and mutual respect with all other countries, especially the United States of America.

Through this precious artistic gift, we also endeavored to demonstrate that not every comment and statement, declared by the current government of Iran, being about political, International, social, religious or nuclear issues, is, and has been, the opinion and viewpoint of our nation.

The massage we have is that Iranian people appreciate the personal, social, and religious freedom; they desire for a free and peaceful society for both themselves and the people of other nations.

Iranians are people who have a historical association and friendship with the Jewish nation, and have never desired and planned for destruction and annihilation of Israel.

The majority of our people dislike the terrorists and their organizations, and has no association with any of them.

The Mission Group of Peace for All delivered this symbolic gift to the U.S. embassy in Ankara, so that, after its transportation to America, it could be brought in the public view as a massage of friendship, respect and peace, from the nation of Iran to the nation and the government of the United States of America.

This precious transcript of the holy Book of Psalms of David is the first book of the Bible that has ever been handwritten in calligraphy by an Iranian Muslim clergy, and illuminated and decorated with gold by an Iranian artist.

The size of this book is 25 × 35, and its total number of pages is 570. The amount of gold used in this book is 5000 sheets of 24-carat gold.

[thenamelessone]

That's not from the nation of Iran (ie: the WF and the President) it is from their opposers. It means this Ayatollah stands in opposition to the WF. He is against taqleed so this makes sense for him to oppose the government. I personally thought his whole site to be fishy, but also I wont judge it, it simply sounds like this Ayatollah, although learned under other Ayatollahs, simply has a mind to oppose it all.