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#1 godzapostle

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:12 AM

Salam,

do you think hezbollah will be able to survive without a friendly regime in syria?

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:25 AM

He won't fall. Nonetheless, I read this article some time ago, that the Israelis are quite afraid, that if Assad does start genuinely losing control, than advanced weapons will end up in the hands of Hezbollah.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 01:14 AM

Allah swt is protecting the countrys of the ahlul bayt (as) we have to have more faith inshallah

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 01:35 AM

View PostJihadi, on 28 January 2012 - 01:14 AM, said:

Allah swt is protecting the countrys of the ahlul bayt (as) we have to have more faith inshallah

But asad is a secular dictator and if he didnt act as a pathway for iranian funds to hezbollah iran would have already denounced him

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 07:00 AM

The yellow flag will be on the on the borders of Jabal Abel, ready to fight the Sufyani

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:28 PM

Lebanon's only land borders are with Israel (not open) and Syria. The new Syria will shut down any supplies and ties to Hezbollah. Therefore, Hezbollah will shrink to a small militia and lose power over time.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:36 PM

View PostJustice4all, on 28 January 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

Lebanon's only land borders are with Israel (not open) and Syria. The new Syria will shut down any supplies and ties to Hezbollah. Therefore, Hezbollah will shrink to a small militia and lose power over time.
No man you got it all wrong, won't you come bomb our Husayniya and Masjids? How about hanging us and killing us?

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 01:16 PM

View PostRoAcHy, on 28 January 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

No man you got it all wrong, won't you come bomb our Husayniya and Masjids? How about hanging us and killing us?

Umm, no. I don't want to bomb or attack anyone in Lebanon. What's wrong with you? However, you probably smile when you hear about more and more Syrians dying.

You and I both know Hezbollah will drastically weaken when the Syrian regime falls. That was my point.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 02:57 PM

View PostJustice4all, on 28 January 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Umm, no. I don't want to bomb or attack anyone in Lebanon. What's wrong with you? However, you probably smile when you hear about more and more Syrians dying.

You and I both know Hezbollah will drastically weaken when the Syrian regime falls. That was my point.

Let me remind you since 1982, till about 1990 or so,  Hezbollah had the Syrians against them, and israel against them. Which means both borders weren't for Hezbollah's benefit.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 05:11 PM

hizbullah proved over and over again that they are not a bunch of simpletons........ they are getting ready for the worst case senario

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:39 PM

Love live alvi hokoumath, long live Asad.
May god destroy hater of asad.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 10:55 PM

"Those who take Allah and His Messenger and those who believe for guardians, will know that The Pary of Allah is the victorious. "

This is a promise made in the Quran, and Allah does not break His Promises.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 12:44 AM

Here's what all despair mongers keep forgetting...

Hizb's constituency in Lebanon is over 50%. With bunch of rich Sunnis and turn coat Lebanese Christians already fled from the country, the real foot on the ground Hizb constituency is over 60%.

If it ever came to this, that is Syria swinging over the other side, either by Asad's falling or by Asad's change of heart, two things will happen:

1. Total takeover of Shia in Lebanon. No more hand in glove kind of things where Shia majority is currently living with seemingly low influence despite having a clear majority in Lebanon. Constitution will be rewritten, electoral rules will be changed, and Lebanon will become another openly Shia sovereign nation no matter how much it would be disliked by Sunnis or Christians or Druze.

2. New Lebanon will openly ask direct financial and military aid from now shaping eastern block of Iran, China, and Russia.

Do you think all the hard work done by Lebanese Shia in last three decades would be hinging on flakey Syria only??? One thing that we all need to realize is that Shia of Iran and Lebanon are not dumb selloff GCC Arabs, they have already envisioned next 10 moves before they act upon one.

I see a while lot of political interest on SC forums which is a good thing, (political dumbness is a Sin and a Crime specially if you are a Shia), I suggest everybody to study a book or two on "game theory" and "strategy" if you want to read the great game being played between the West and the Shia crescent. I ensure you, you will be intrigued, fascinated, and get the adreline rush much more than watching the Matrix.

Peace.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 10:42 AM

One more thing - people forget adding pro Shia Iraqi equation in the mix.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:41 AM

Curious, Waiting for HIM: what books or articles are you recommending?
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:57 AM

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 12:00 PM

View PostWaiting for HIM, on 29 January 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

Here's what all despair mongers keep forgetting...

Hizb's constituency in Lebanon is over 50%. With bunch of rich Sunnis and turn coat Lebanese Christians already fled from the country, the real foot on the ground Hizb constituency is over 60%.

If it ever came to this, that is Syria swinging over the other side, either by Asad's falling or by Asad's change of heart, two things will happen:

1. Total takeover of Shia in Lebanon. No more hand in glove kind of things where Shia majority is currently living with seemingly low influence despite having a clear majority in Lebanon. Constitution will be rewritten, electoral rules will be changed, and Lebanon will become another openly Shia sovereign nation no matter how much it would be disliked by Sunnis or Christians or Druze.

2. New Lebanon will openly ask direct financial and military aid from now shaping eastern block of Iran, China, and Russia.

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Peace.

What makes you think that the constitution will be rewritten if Assad falls? Is assad somehow preventing Shias from totally taking over in Lebanon?

Iran, Russia and China seems a rather unhohly alliance to me. What do they have in common except lack of democracy and human rights? (But OTOH maybe this is enough.)

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:04 PM

View Posthejsansvejsan, on 29 January 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

Iran, Russia and China seems a rather unhohly alliance to me. What do they have in common except lack of democracy and human rights? (But OTOH maybe this is enough.)

Iran, Russia and China look like saints if you compare them to the US, Israel and GCC alliance.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 09:29 PM

View PostWaiting for HIM, on 29 January 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

Here's what all despair mongers keep forgetting...

Hizb's constituency in Lebanon is over 50%. With bunch of rich Sunnis and turn coat Lebanese Christians already fled from the country, the real foot on the ground Hizb constituency is over 60%.

If it ever came to this, that is Syria swinging over the other side, either by Asad's falling or by Asad's change of heart, two things will happen:

1. Total takeover of Shia in Lebanon. No more hand in glove kind of things where Shia majority is currently living with seemingly low influence despite having a clear majority in Lebanon. Constitution will be rewritten, electoral rules will be changed, and Lebanon will become another openly Shia sovereign nation no matter how much it would be disliked by Sunnis or Christians or Druze.

2. New Lebanon will openly ask direct financial and military aid from now shaping eastern block of Iran, China, and Russia.

Do you think all the hard work done by Lebanese Shia in last three decades would be hinging on flakey Syria only??? One thing that we all need to realize is that Shia of Iran and Lebanon are not dumb selloff GCC Arabs, they have already envisioned next 10 moves before they act upon one.

I see a while lot of political interest on SC forums which is a good thing, (political dumbness is a Sin and a Crime specially if you are a Shia), I suggest everybody to study a book or two on "game theory" and "strategy" if you want to read the great game being played between the West and the Shia crescent. I ensure you, you will be intrigued, fascinated, and get the adreline rush much more than watching the Matrix.

Peace.

View PostWaiting for HIM, on 29 January 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

Here's what all despair mongers keep forgetting...

Hizb's constituency in Lebanon is over 50%. With bunch of rich Sunnis and turn coat Lebanese Christians already fled from the country, the real foot on the ground Hizb constituency is over 60%.

If it ever came to this, that is Syria swinging over the other side, either by Asad's falling or by Asad's change of heart, two things will happen:

1. Total takeover of Shia in Lebanon. No more hand in glove kind of things where Shia majority is currently living with seemingly low influence despite having a clear majority in Lebanon. Constitution will be rewritten, electoral rules will be changed, and Lebanon will become another openly Shia sovereign nation no matter how much it would be disliked by Sunnis or Christians or Druze.

2. New Lebanon will openly ask direct financial and military aid from now shaping eastern block of Iran, China, and Russia.

Do you think all the hard work done by Lebanese Shia in last three decades would be hinging on flakey Syria only??? One thing that we all need to realize is that Shia of Iran and Lebanon are not dumb selloff GCC Arabs, they have already envisioned next 10 moves before they act upon one.

I see a while lot of political interest on SC forums which is a good thing, (political dumbness is a Sin and a Crime specially if you are a Shia), I suggest everybody to study a book or two on "game theory" and "strategy" if you want to read the great game being played between the West and the Shia crescent. I ensure you, you will be intrigued, fascinated, and get the adreline rush much more than watching the Matrix.

Peace.

I will read the book Insha'Allah.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 07:53 PM

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What books do you recommend on game theory and strategy?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:09 PM

I am sure they have manufacturing facilities, supplies and equipment to fight several wars without resupply.  Also, just by adding guidance systems to the technology they already have they would add to their deterrent capabilities.

However, my guess is that if Syria is no longer an ally they would fight using different tactics than they did in the last war.  My guess is that they would strike deep inside Israel to cause a political backlash in Israel that would halt their expansionist warmongering.  They are very smart and they will not be isolated no matter what.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:06 AM

Hezbollah will die a slow and painful death if Syria goes to the wrong hands. I'm not going to believe in wishful thinking. Without Assad's regime in Syria, Hezbollah will be isolated. Iran will not be able to help either.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:10 AM

View PostMo., on 29 March 2012 - 03:06 AM, said:

Hezbollah will die a slow and painful death if Syria goes to the wrong hands. I'm not going to believe in wishful thinking. Without Assad's regime in Syria, Hezbollah will be isolated. Iran will not be able to help either.

Iran is owned by the Zionists anyway, so why would it want to help Hezbollah? :)

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:16 AM

View Postbaradar_jackson, on 29 March 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:

Iran is owned by the Zionists anyway, so why would it want to help Hezbollah? :)
Two reasons:
1. Not everyone knows the truth. Many people actually believe the show that is being put on.
2. Israel would love it if it has enemies around itself. It'll give them an excuse to fight wars and manifest their expansionist agendas. It's doing the same thing right now with the newly emerging so called Islamist govts in Egypt and soon-to-be Syria.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:24 AM

View PostMo., on 29 March 2012 - 03:16 AM, said:

Two reasons:
1. Not everyone knows the truth. Many people actually believe the show that is being put on.
2. Israel would love it if it has enemies around itself. It'll give them an excuse to fight wars and manifest their expansionist agendas. It's doing the same thing right now with the newly emerging so called Islamist govts in Egypt and soon-to-be Syria.

1) "The show?" I know you're not a big fan of the majoos... but are you sure you're not Iranian yourself??? The level of insight in your conspiracy theories are so high... I would have guessed your last name is jackson! You should move to Iran and get Iranian papers. Your lovely, insightful theories would be at home there. :)

2) Israel doesn't need any goddamn enemies to start a war. Israel bombs hospitals and bridges and orphanages for God's sake. Do you even think before you speak? Israel NEEDS Hezbollah in order to start wars? And they want to start these wars so they can LOSE and get embarrassed? That's all part of "the show?" Get the hell outta here dude...

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