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[~Zee Zee~]

This is why you must read duas for protection against EVERYTHING everyday before you leave the house!  What these 12 students developed is scary and I think it had to do with environmental factors  or something but YALATEEF . This scared me ....May Allah Protect us from stuff like these...and those of you unhappy with your lives say Alhamduillah a 1000 times because you are better off  than most people just take a look at this!

P.s. Many are saying its from the vaccine called 'Gardasil'....but who knows ...who knows this is just scary


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Edited by LebanesePrincess, 17 January 2012 - 10:37 AM.

[ImAli]

12 students from the same school? It has to be environmental factors.

[~Zee Zee~]

ImAli, on 17 January 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

12 students from the same school? It has to be environmental factors.

ImAli some say its from gardasil a vaccine ....but the pharmacies dont want to admit to it...this world is scary

Edited by LebanesePrincess, 17 January 2012 - 10:39 AM.

[ImAli]

LebanesePrincess, on 17 January 2012 - 10:38 AM, said:

ImAli some say its from gardasil a vaccine ....but the pharmacies dont want to admit to it...this world is scary

It could very well be.....it wouldn't be the first time kids have had an adverse reaction to this. This just makes me angry and I can smell a cover up.

[~Zee Zee~]

I just emailed my uncle about this... I dont want his daughter to get vaccinated by this drug.....ufff  this world is becoming scary...well scarier

Edited by LebanesePrincess, 17 January 2012 - 10:54 AM.

[Muntaqim Force]

At the moment it is too early to blame the vaccine unless if the history of all these 12 girls is positive for gardasil Vx. But if i look at this from religious point of view it could be possible. This Vx is made for to prevent people from acquiring HPV infection which is STD. In other words it is kind of satan;s potion to be free and make sin as much as you want without acquiring HPV and tackle the punishment of Allah (in form of STD). But Allah is the best Planner.

But i suspect Vx usage related to neurological condition if all 12 girls have not taken the vaccination. First thing which hit my head especially after reading all are teenage and from SAME school is Drug abuse. They must have used some very potent drug available around or in their school building which might have cause this damage. Only further investigations can help us in giving clear picture.

[Isner]

scary,

[Pascal]

If i have to say one things and one thing only, please, for the love of God do not reject vaccinations, make sure you are vaccinated.

The regulation and approval process for drugs is *extremely rigorous*.

I am a pharmacology major, especially interested in drug development. Do you know how much it costs to make a single drug, from discovery, to testing, to finally making it? 1.4 billion dollars, on average. For one single drug.

It takes 12-15 years on average as well from when a drug is first discovered to when (and if) it is administered to the general population.

Out of the cycle of discovery, clinical trials and testing, approval and production and finally manufacturing, the longest and most expensive stage by far is clinical trials. It costs roughly $970 million dollars to run clinical trials and test the drug to make sure it is safe, this takes about 9 years.

The approval process almost everything you else you touch is far less stringent than the protocols for developing new drugs. Your food goes through a hell of a lot less screening and you consume it on a daily basis.

Its expensive partially because of the nature of the process but most drugs they discover and try never make it to market. They either don’t work well enough or are even more slightly unsafe than is warranted for the type of condition they treat. They need to absorb this cost into the things they actually do sell to make all that lost money back.

Vaccinations are essential. They really are.

In cases like the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccine, it’s been a long time since anyone alive today has had to deal with these diseases, precisely because of vaccination. They are horrible diseases and spread rapidly. We have some people (i've seen noted cases in the UK) where people have decided not to vaccinate their children (for reasons that escape me) and we're now seeing the emergence of widespread community cases of measles mumps and rubella on a fairly big scale for the first time in decades. I understand it can sometimes seem a little scary and its been awhile since a lot of the disease we vaccinate have touched anyone we know personally but getting vaccinated is essential, not only to your health but to protect everyone else in society and in the community as a whole.

For gardisil, if you read the wikipedia page on it, you'll find this: "An update on adverse events was published by the Journal of the American Medical Association and looked at data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), covering 12,424 reported adverse events after about 23 million doses of vaccine between June 2006 and December 2008.^[42][43] Most adverse effects were minor and not greater than background rates compared with other vaccines, the exception being higher rates for syncope and venous thromboembolic events.^[43]"

13,000 cases out of a total of 23 000 000 doses. A lot of these cases haven't been conclusively linked to the vaccine either. People sometimes get sick, it just happens they had the vaccine that day too but it doesn't necessarily link them. Its a fact of life people also die sometimes. When i was in highschool, one of the students showed up to school that morning, played basketball with his friends afterschool, went home and sadly, wasn't alive by the next morning. People just die sometimes. Of course parents want answers but just because your child had the vaccine in the past couple weeks, it doesn't mean the vaccine caused it. It would be foolish to blame the tragic death of this student on basketball for example.

It's just a fact that some people die and considering how many people have got this vaccine, some deaths are bound to coincide with getting the vaccine. 12,424 adverse reactions most were minor(pain/swelling at injection site/headaches), out of 23 million doses is nothing at all alarming compared to the benefit a vaccine provides as a whole.

[Gypsy]

But why only girls? Shouldn't boys be also included if it was the environment or drugs?

[forte]

Muntaqim Force, on 17 January 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

This Vx is made for to prevent people from acquiring HPV infection which is STD. In other words it is kind of satan;s potion to be free and make sin as much as you want without acquiring HPV and tackle the punishment of Allah (in form of STD). But Allah is the best Planner.

You can defintiely get HPV without sinning. It is not a good idea to discourage prevention methods from disease.

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But i suspect Vx usage related to neurological condition if all 12 girls have not taken the vaccination. First thing which hit my head especially after reading all are teenage and from SAME school is Drug abuse. They must have used some very potent drug available around or in their school building which might have cause this damage. Only further investigations can help us in giving clear picture.

This is more likely that they had something else in common especially since it is all girls and probably knew each other and had a same activitiy or environment.

[Pascal]

Gypsy, on 06 February 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

But why only girls? Shouldn't boys be also included if it was the environment or drugs?

If you mean the vaccination, its to prevent cervical cancer. Men dont usually have a cervix..

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Oh, i think you mean 12 girls getting sick. They're outliers. If you look at the big picture and the numbers i have shown, it doesn't really hurt almost anyone. Sometimes freak occurrences happen, i'm sure you could find 12 people who lived in blue houses who got cancer during the year, it doesn't mean blue houses cause cancer (https://en.wikipedia...imply_causation).  The fact is if it actually made people sick we'd see this in the above numbers and we dont.

Edited by kingpomba, 08 February 2012 - 02:29 AM.