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[hidrali]

More than 50 people have been killed in bomb attacks in southern Iraq and in the capital Baghdad.
Provincial officials said at least 30 Shia pilgrims died in a suicide attack near the city of Nasiriya.
Earlier, Iraq's Interior Ministry said at least 24 people were killed in blasts in Shia areas of Baghdad.
The attacks come amid a rise in sectarian tensions after the last US combat troops withdrew in December.
The head of the provincial council in Nasiriya, Qusay al-Abadi, said at least 30 pilgrims were killed and more than 70 injured in the attack near Nasiriya. AFP quoted the official Dhi Qar provincial website as saying the pilgrims were walking to the holy city of Karbala.
The BBC's Rafid Jabboori in Baghdad says Iraq is going through a severe political crisis and the situation in the country is tense.
The Baghdad attacks occurred during the city's rush hour and the Interior Ministry says they targeted gatherings in of civilians in the Sadr City and Kadhimiya areas and injured at least 66 other people.
Unnamed officials told the AFP news agency that between 14 and 15 people had been killed when two car bombs exploded simultaneously in Kadhimiya at around 09:00 (06:00 GMT). The Associated Press (AP) said 15 people died in the blasts.
Recent attacks in Iraq

• 5 January - At least 24 die in blasts in two Shia areas of Baghdad. A roadside bomb kills 30 pilgrims near Nasiriya
  
• 4 January - At least three die in bombings and grenade attacks in Baquba and Abu Ghraib, north of Baghdad
  
• 26 December - At least seven killed in suicide car bomb attack outside Iraq's interior ministry
  
• 22 December - 68 killed in multiple blasts in Baghdad
  
• 5 December - At least 30 killed in attacks targeting Shia pilgrims in central Iraq
  
• 27 October - 38 killed, 78 injured in twin bomb blasts in a Shia area of Baghdad
  
• 12 October - 28 killed by car bombs and roadside bombs around Baghdad
  
• 15 August - At least 60 killed in co-ordinated attacks in several Iraqi cities

Twelve people had earlier been killed when two bombs were detonated in Sadr City, AP reported officials as saying. It said the first was a motorbike bomb, which exploded near where labourers were gathering to look for work.
It quoted anonymous hospital officials as saying that 30 minutes later a roadside bomb exploded near a tea shop, killing one. AFP quoted security officials as saying nine people were killed and 35 wounded in the Sadr City attacks. Reuters put the toll at 10.
"There was a group of day labourers gathered, waiting to be hired for work. Someone brought his small motorcycle and parked it nearby. A few minutes later it blew up, killed some people, wounded others and burned some cars," a police officer told Reuters at the scene of the first attack.
Iraq's power-sharing government has been in crisis since an arrest warrant was issued for Sunni Vice-President Tariq al-Hashemi on terror charges two weeks ago. He has denied the accusations against him.
The al-Iraqiyya group, the main Sunni bloc in parliament, is boycotting the assembly in protest. It accuses Prime Minister Nouri Maliki, a Shia, of monopolising power.
Mr Hashemi is currently in Irbil in Iraqi Kurdistan, under the protection of the regional government, but Mr Maliki has demanded that they give him up.
"Political leaders fight each other for power, and we pay the price," Labourer Ahmed Khalaf told AFP at the site of one of the Sadr City explosions. "How is it our fault if al-Hashemi is wanted, or someone else is wanted?" he asked. "Why should we pay instead of them?"

[Kamranistan]

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[Ali_Hussain]

inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'oon

[Noah-]

This is what happens when the government forgives and releases 1000s of terrorists and Baathists on the street. And when it does not take serious the cases of criminals like Hashimi and Mutlaq. You like it or not, Saudis and their Zionists friends are their to create problems for Iraqi government, to conspire and fund terrorists.

[yazehra786]

i know that attacks against shias around ashura and arbaeen is nothing new, but lately the more i read about these innocent people being killed i feel sick to my stomach. when is this violence going to end?

as a sidenote, i noticed on a bbc article that the reporter is referring to al-qaeda as a "sunni extremist group" -- out of curiosity, how does this make you feel? is it better that the distinction is drawn so as to highlight that terrorists don't exclude muslims who don't conform to their ideas as targets as well? or is it just making muslims look even more divided?

[Waiting for HIM]

IraqiShia, on 05 January 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

I'm so upset... I can't even do my study. Ya Allaahh when is this going to end??? Al sha3b shnoo dhnanba? Freakin' muta5alefeen ruining everything.
Inna Lillahi wa inna iIleyhi raj3oon..

To be very truthful, this is NOT going to end till the time Imam Mahdi (atf) comes.

There is one way where you could temporarily bring it under control, and that is the way of Iran and Lebanese Shias.

Everywhere else, where Shia are not organized or give too much slack to Salafis and Wahabies in the name of peace or brotherhood, this keeps happening.
Examples being Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait, SaudiArabia and now Syria.

http://www.shiachat....__fromsearch__1

Edited by Waiting for HIM, 05 January 2012 - 03:03 PM.

[iDevonian]

Noah-, on 05 January 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

This is what happens when the government forgives and releases 1000s of terrorists and Baathists on the street. And when it does not take serious the cases of criminals like Hashimi and Mutlaq. You like it or not, Saudis and their Zionists friends are their to create problems for Iraqi government, to conspire and fund terrorists.

No western country would spend so much money to build an ally, to have it turned into a failed operation.  The west wants stability from Iraq. The people who are waging war in these lands, are not westerners, theyre fighting for their own reasons.  We should not blame "zionists" nor Saudis for the actions of people hundreds of miles away.

Mushu, on 05 January 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

I honestly think the US is behind it. It's all too much for it to be unplanned.

1) The US withdraws it's troops.
2) An attempt is made on Nouri's life - by Tareq al-Hashemi.
3) Hashemi runs away and is safe in Kurdistan.
4) Waves of explosions start spreading - all in very prominant Shia areas. In fact, places like Nasiriya and Sadr City are Jaysh al-Mahdi strongholds.

I think they're trying to provoke some sort of sectarian war.

And then guess what - America to the rescue!

If America wanted a sectarian war, they would have left saddam in office so he could keep dropping bombs on shia villages.  This is not the product of the west.  The US benefits from strong and stable allies.  Not weak and destructive ones. The sectarian fighting that occurs in Iraq, is against the interests of the US.  But i will tell you who does benefit from it.

http://www.nytimes.c...&ref=middleeast

There are two sides to this, pros and cons, support and sabotage from both Iran and the US.

[iDevonian]

Mushu, on 06 January 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

I'm talking about America's interest from an allied stance.

Sectarian war breaking out gives the US an excuse to return to Iraq with an 'I told you so'.

This gives them more opportunity to rape Iraq of it's natural resources.

Furthermore, sectarian war would not have broken out under Saddam's rule. It's all America's influence - previous revolutions had been crushed with the US's assitance.

Let me ask you this question:

What do Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam all have in common?

The US wouldnt leave the country if it had the interest in returning within the next 6 months, lets be realistic.  Also, the US doesnt need to be in the country to gain from its resources. The resources are extracted through third party groups. And on top of that, its cheaper to not have troops there.  Also, you said that a sectarian war wouldnt have broken out under saddams rule.  Are you seriously trying to justify the rule of a man who not only waged war with iran, but deliberately dropped bombs on shia villages?  You cant blame the ideologies of the people and the interests of the people on western influences.  The US does have great influence around the world, but were talking about Iraq, its on the other side of the planet, its culture is far far different from the US, its religion is far far different, everything about Iraq is vastly different.

These sectarian wars are not a product of the US. Theyre a product of the incohesive ideologies of the people of Iraq. And the neighboring countries.

Edited by iDevonian, 06 January 2012 - 06:59 AM.

[comrade]

^How naive.

[Waiting for HIM]

iDevonian, on 06 January 2012 - 06:57 AM, said:

The US wouldnt leave the country if it had the interest in returning within the next 6 months, lets be realistic.  Also, the US doesnt need to be in the country to gain from its resources. The resources are extracted through third party groups. And on top of that, its cheaper to not have troops there.  Also, you said that a sectarian war wouldnt have broken out under saddams rule.  Are you seriously trying to justify the rule of a man who not only waged war with iran, but deliberately dropped bombs on shia villages?  You cant blame the ideologies of the people and the interests of the people on western influences.  The US does have great influence around the world, but were talking about Iraq, its on the other side of the planet, its culture is far far different from the US, its religion is far far different, everything about Iraq is vastly different.

These sectarian wars are not a product of the US. Theyre a product of the incohesive ideologies of the people of Iraq. And the neighboring countries.

Saddam was a sectarian instigator but had completed his initial assigned job and in his all stupidities he restricted his usage for any further benefit to humanity haters. With his attack on Kuwait, he bit the hand (Saudi and USA) which was feeding him to spread sectarian bloodshed.

US has every thing to gain from sectarian bloodshed in Iraq. In a bigger scheme of things a weak, broken, and disintegrated Iraq embroiled in its own mess is toothless to play any big game in stopping imperialistic agenda which is promoted by USA, Israel and its [Edited Out]es aka KSA and the other puppies.

If you do not know, in ME, Israel is most active in Israel or in the autonomous regions of Kurdistan. They want to break the unity of Iraq for oil and for soon to be starting "water wars" in ME.

For wahabis, their whole glass house of lies and fabrications, on which their whole Satanic cult of Wabisim is based shatters with the presence of a major Shia Arab power so it goes in their interest too that if Shia are going to be the power brokers of Iraq, then diminish Iraq to an extent where it becomes a small littoral state.

So please do not act such gullible, unless you are here trying to deceive us into something.

When USA invaded Iraq back in 2003/2004, the majority cry in Iraq was "Slave (i.e. Saddam) has been perished, and the Master has taken over to play the game directly.".

*** When I say USA here, not all USA is like this. Its mostly a war mongering, pro zionists, highly influential, extremely resourceful, major share holders in financial and weapon manufacturing industries - group of people. They are the 1% waging war against the 99% good Americans and the rest of the globe.

Edited by Waiting for HIM, 06 January 2012 - 11:44 AM.

[Noah-]

iDevonian, on 05 January 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

No western country would spend so much money to build an ally, to have it turned into a failed operation.  The west wants stability from Iraq. The people who are waging war in these lands, are not westerners, theyre fighting for their own reasons.  We should not blame "zionists" nor Saudis for the actions of people hundreds of miles away.

Are you serious? 100s of miles away means they don't bother to kill?

Zionists failed in their main goals in Iraq, that is why they are punishing them... They ask their lapdog Saudi to use Alqaida and Takfiri gangs and assist Baathist in targeting Iraqi peace... BUT, I assure you that even by inciting these kinds of wars, they will lose more... If anything serious happens, Shias will gain more power and there will be more salts onto the wounds of western zionists.

Saudis invaded Yemen to stop Shias in the north from fighting for their rights... it was agreed and accepted by evil American officials.

Saudis invaded Bahrain to stop a Shia revolution and targeted peaceful protesters, with the agreement of evil American officials.

And YES, Saudis are sending Alqaida into Syria within the agreement of Zionist Mafia.

And Saudis are bombing Iraqi Shias on the basis of the same agreements.

[iDevonian]

Waiting for HIM, on 06 January 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

Saddam was a sectarian instigator but had completed his initial assigned job and in his all stupidities he restricted his usage for any further benefit to humanity haters. With his attack on Kuwait, he bit the hand (Saudi and USA) which was feeding him to spread sectarian bloodshed.

US has every thing to gain from sectarian bloodshed in Iraq. In a bigger scheme of things a weak, broken, and disintegrated Iraq embroiled in its own mess is toothless to play any big game in stopping imperialistic agenda which is promoted by USA, Israel and its [Edited Out]es aka KSA and the other puppies.

If you do not know, in ME, Israel is most active in Israel or in the autonomous regions of Kurdistan. They want to break the unity of Iraq for oil and for soon to be starting "water wars" in ME.

For wahabis, their whole glass house of lies and fabrications, on which their whole Satanic cult of Wabisim is based shatters with the presence of a major Shia Arab power so it goes in their interest too that if Shia are going to be the power brokers of Iraq, then diminish Iraq to an extent where it becomes a small littoral state.

So please do not act such gullible, unless you are here trying to deceive us into something.

When USA invaded Iraq back in 2003/2004, the majority cry in Iraq was "Slave (i.e. Saddam) has been perished, and the Master has taken over to play the game directly.".

*** When I say USA here, not all USA is like this. Its mostly a war mongering, pro zionists, highly influential, extremely resourceful, major share holders in financial and weapon manufacturing industries - group of people. They are the 1% waging war against the 99% good Americans and the rest of the globe.

The US can benefit from a country plagued by war or not.  If it is too violent, then the US cannot benefit from the country, examples would include some african countries for example.  However, regardless of this, this isnt to say that the US is in control of sectarian wars.  I mean really, we all know how defiant middle eastern muslims are of western influence.  These muslims are fighting this sectarian war for themselves and against themselves.  I still dont see why anyone would believe that the US is somehow controlling the actions of shia and sunnis.  With the reputation the US has over there, these people would never fight on behalf of US interests.  Theyre doing it for themselves.

Noah-, on 06 January 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

Are you serious? 100s of miles away means they don't bother to kill?

Zionists failed in their main goals in Iraq, that is why they are punishing them... They ask their lapdog Saudi to use Alqaida and Takfiri gangs and assist Baathist in targeting Iraqi peace... BUT, I assure you that even by inciting these kinds of wars, they will lose more... If anything serious happens, Shias will gain more power and there will be more salts onto the wounds of western zionists.

Saudis invaded Yemen to stop Shias in the north from fighting for their rights... it was agreed and accepted by evil American officials.

Saudis invaded Bahrain to stop a Shia revolution and targeted peaceful protesters, with the agreement of evil American officials.

And YES, Saudis are sending Alqaida into Syria within the agreement of Zionist Mafia.

And Saudis are bombing Iraqi Shias on the basis of the same agreements.

You guys pass the buck too often.  Nobody is holding a gun up to saudi arabias head saying "go get em tiger!".  No, Saudi simply has a lot of money, so they do what they want.  Thats all there is to that story.  Countries like the US also benefit from the great production of Saudis Oil, also Saudi Arabia hasnt attempted to assault another of the US's allies like Saddam.  Therefore the US doesnt get involved.  Thats all there is to that.  Saudi isnt being controlled by the west, its doing what it wants, likewise the people fighting in these lands, are acting in their own interests.  The US may be allies with one side or another, but nobody is dictating their actions but them.  And all the sunni soldiers that fight for them are acting out of their interests too.  The same thing goes for the shias that are fighting.  The US isnt holding a gun up to any shias head, Iran isnt holding a gun up to anyones head either.  The fighters in Iraq and in the region are fighting their own fight, with their own free will.

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

Noah-, on 06 January 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

And YES, Saudis are sending Alqaida into Syria

Saudi is infested with Terrorists, and Saudi money is what feeds them. The Saudi regime needs to be destroyed, not strengthened with huge defence contracts.

[Abu Hadi]

Ya Aba 3abdillah, on 07 January 2012 - 10:50 AM, said:

Saudi is infested with Terrorists, and Saudi money is what feeds them. The Saudi regime needs to be destroyed, not strengthened with huge defence contracts.

the day someone somewhere in the world figures out How to make c ethenol (ethenol Made from non edible plant matter) at about $2 per gallon is the day the Al Saud family will be finished once and for all. Lets all Do some duaa for the scientists working on c ethenol projects so They dont get assasinated.

Edited by Abu Hadi, 08 January 2012 - 09:39 PM.

[Abu Hadi]

Iran has other parts to its economy besides oil. IMO Iranians are some of the smartest and Most creative people on earth. The Situation will be more difficult for Iraq but it will be a Net gain for them - oil revenue but big + no more salafi terrorism.

[titumir]

Oil wealth is hugely overrated anyway. Japan doesn't have any oil or gas at all and look at them!

[iDevonian]

titumir, on 09 January 2012 - 01:45 AM, said:

Oil wealth is hugely overrated anyway. Japan doesn't have any oil or gas at all and look at them!

thats not true, i dont know where you have gotten this false impression. petroleum is used in everything. Almost have of Japans energy consumption is Oil based.  It boggles my mind as to why someone would say something so false.  Perhaps you are jokeing?

Edited by iDevonian, 09 January 2012 - 03:24 AM.