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[Awaiting_for_the12th]

offcourse it had to be Dearborn. A thorn in the eyes of Shia islam in USA. Never seen so confused people. I really wish they stop hijacking the shia title from us because there is no way this is what was taught by Imams .

[Abu Hadi]

There are many good Muslims and muslimat in Dearborn who do the wajibat and avoid the haram and do as much mustahab as they they can and are knowledgeable in religion and anticipate the Zahoor of our Imam Al Asr(may Allah(swa) hasten his return). They are kind to their relatives and family and try to do good things in the community and not create fitna. The problem is that their lives don't make a good t.v. show. So the owners of TLC have only one goal and that goal is to get as many pairs of eyes as they can to stare at their t.v. sets for 1 hour so they can get the greatest amount of money from the advertisers who buy those ten or so minutes that most of us skip thru. It is about making money. That is all. So don't expect any accurate information about Islam or Dearborn or even the Muslim community in America. If these were the typical Muslims in America I'm quite sure that Allah(swa) would have destroyed us by now.  What you are in fact watching is the Muslims in America who want to be on t.v. and have the sort of life that would be fun for others to watch.

[3laweyaZainabiya]

 ImAli, on 12 November 2011 - 06:17 PM, said:

They seem to all be showing off too, well I know they are showing off because I live in Dearborn and it is very boring. But I could be wrong, what do I know....I am an antisocial housewife and I only associate with my (coffee drinking partners) neighbors

Haha we should hang out sometime! Lol and you should walk into fordson! Or walk into gas stations in detriot where you see Muslim youth buying beer and a pack of smokes... It's very interesting... Lol

 Abu Hadi, on 14 November 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

Salams,

I will tell you that there is something behind this that we should all be aware of. It is obvious to me but may not seem so obvious at first.

1) There is a great interest in Islam in General and Shiism in particular in America. People in the U.S. are becoming muslim everyday. It was not so common more than a decade ago when I reverted, but it is becoming more and more common with each passing year. When I went to the masjid, I could go for months without seeing another revert there. Now I see them every single week on Friday. For a proof of this, just type in something like 'Revert Muslim' or 'Convert to Islam' in Youtube and see how many videos come up. Some are quite interesting and inspiring and most were made with just someone on a web cam with no budget and no script. Most reverts want to be in a Muslim community, for reasons of safety and ready availibility of masjids, halal food, etc. I guess born muslims want this type of community for the same reasons.

2) Dearborn is the center of Shia Islam in the United States, for better or worse. There are a lot of Shia here from different backgrounds and there are more Iraqis now in the City of Dearborn than there are Lebanese for the first time. So Dearborn has the potential to be another center of learning and activism for the Shia in the United States and guidance for the United States in general. That is why I came here ten years ago with high hopes (most of which haven't been realized yet).

3) The U.S. government is aware of these facts and they see Shiism and particularly the office of the Marjaaeiat as the greatest threat to their power in the world today. It is no accident that the two centers of Shia Learning for the world (Najaf and Qum) are either under U.S. occupation or threat of military attack. They want to nip the potential of Dearborn and this area in the bud by some means. They know that they cannot attack it militarily, because it is part of the United States and most people in Dearborn are U.S. citizens (either naturalized or born). So thus they have some rights. So the new strategy is to steer interest in Dearborn away from true Islam and toward fake, superficial cultural based Islam (Reema Faqih and now this...). So it seems that this show is part of the plan. The plan is the same old plan of divide and conquer by making a group of 'good muslims' (the ones who go to the masjid on Friday and belly dancing on Saturday) and the 'bad muslims' (the ones who go to the masjid on Friday and then do some other fun but halal activity on Saturday).

Extremely true, especially the third point. I see these kids acting less and less religious everyday because of shows like All American Muslims. Another thing, I used to live in another city where population contained only about 10% Muslims. I don't remember seeing many regular clubs and the first 'adult entertainment club' (wa ithulbiAllah) was about 16 minutes away from the city. It literally was out in the middle of nowhere. In dearbon though, there is an area where theres a club on every corner. There are disgusting clubs down the street from a mosque! I astonishes me how this area could have so many Muslims and those places in the same area.

 ImAli, on 16 November 2011 - 09:24 AM, said:

These girls would have committed suicide had they been placed in my situation ::rolling eyes:: ..... I didn't grow up in Dearborn and spent junior high and high school with a school or all white people and nearly half of them rednecks.....AND I was the only one in hijab for all of those years......and they want to cry about discrimination ROFL

Lol! All I have to say to you is; I know right?!?

[ImAli]

Well you know....LOL

And what about the strip club next to La Shish on Michigan Ave. not far from Oakman Blvd.....and not only next door...........but in the same building hahahahahaha.....and it's a halal restaurant.

[3laweyaZainabiya]

 ImAli, on 24 December 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

Well you know....LOL

And what about the strip club next to La Shish on Michigan Ave. not far from Oakman Blvd.....and not only next door...........but in the same building hahahahahaha.....and it's a halal restaurant.

haha!! Wallahi we were laughing at that a couple of days ago!!! Or when they have halal food at a club that sells nothing but alcohol. Pretty sure BT's serves halal lol
Astghfur'Allah I can keep laughing at this but wallah it's stuff like this that completely shocked me and made me question Islam. Alhamdulillah though, because of that I'm closer to Islam now than I have ever been.

Oh how about that adult store down the street from the mosque of imam Ali or was it the karbala center? I usually go to the islamic house of wisdom and Islamic center of America. I try to avoid those smaller mosques because they tend to be very cultural, I'm pretty sure you know how I feel about cultural people by now. Lol

[ImAli]

There is an adult store?

I forgot to mention that hotel right across from the strip club is where everyone cheats on their wife hahahaha....ufffff

[3laweyaZainabiya]

 ImAli, on 24 December 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

There is an adult store?

Yes! I'll have to see which mosque it is because it's scary how close it is to the mosque...

 ImAli, on 24 December 2011 - 10:16 PM, said:

There is an adult store?

I forgot to mention that hotel right across from the strip club is where everyone cheats on their wife hahahaha....ufffff

Ok that I don't know of... Andit sounds like old lady talk over a finjaan 2awa lol

[ImAli]

 3laweyaZainabiya, on 24 December 2011 - 10:18 PM, said:

Yes! I'll have to see which mosque it is because it's scary how close it is to the mosque...



Ok that I don't know of... Andit sounds like old lady talk over a finjaan 2awa lol

Yeah it's old lady talk.....but it's true loooooool (ok not funny...actually it's sad)

[ImAli]

Nope....if I ever go it is to the big one in dearborn ICOFA.....but I don't go alot cause of the kids, they are a handful and I don't like leaving them with anyone.

[ImAli]

I will message you

[3laweyaZainabiya]

 ImAli, on 24 December 2011 - 10:38 PM, said:

I will message you

I'm gonna delete that lol I just realized that I gave tmi

[Laayla]

Bilal Amen's back

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The episode did end with some sense of new unity for Shadia and Bilal. They traveled to New York City to visit Ground Zero. Shadia wore a T-shirt that read “NOT A TERRORIST,” and Bilal got a new tattoo from Israeli-born tattoo artist Ami James (of TLC’s NY Ink). Bilal had been afraid that James, a former sniper in the Israeli army, would kick him out after seeing the Lebanese flag tattooed on his back. Instead, they had a thoughtful conversation about how when James served in Lebanon, he looked at the beautiful beach and thought he should be over there swimming instead of fighting, and what it means to carry an Israeli passport into other countries. “Being exposed to different viewpoints, like as far as Ami James’ Israeli viewpoint, I’m not used to,” Bilal later said. “It’s good to hear somebody from the other side, and us being able to have a conversation not arguing, yelling, and screaming. I can kind of relate to him.” Upon his return to Michigan, Bilal shared the following quote from James with his mother: “It’s really unfortunate, if you think about it, that we have to leave our country to get along.”

http://popwatch.ew.c...an-muslim-9-11/

[ImAli]

I flip through channels every sunday night.....I passed by TLC when he was getting his tattoo by an ex IDF member

[Amna4]

This show scares and disgusts me. I live near Dearborn, so I spend a lot of time there.  This show in NO WAY represents the majority of my friends there or in the area.  Maybe, maybe they might go to a hookah lounge.  But never to clubs, never drinking alcohol, and none have tattoos (as far as I know).  I've only turned it on twice and have been shocked and offended both times.

[BaqiyatullahY]

Just saw the first episode:

Lost of [Edited Out] in the commentaries about shia...

[Alejandro Sosa]

wow i missed this thread

i thought some of the people in this show were a disgrace..i can't understand how anybody would want to raise their kids in america

[Aarash_Australia]

ludicrous.

"Arabs in America" - nothing else.

[AliSaleh]

guys dont judge them.  if they belive in Allah and the Prophet than u cant say they r not muslims.

[Laayla]

 Amna4, on 15 January 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

This show scares and disgusts me. I live near Dearborn, so I spend a lot of time there.  This show in NO WAY represents the majority of my friends there or in the area.  Maybe, maybe they might go to a hookah lounge.  But never to clubs, never drinking alcohol, and none have tattoos (as far as I know).  I've only turned it on twice and have been shocked and offended both times.

Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum.

Alhamd'Allah I heard from my sister that they are not going to renew the show for next year.  I finished watching this show and I share the same sentiments you have.  I thought I would never live the day to see a "hijabi" going inside a bar/club and dance.  That is the lowest form and disgrace I have ever seen a hijabi put herself in a situation like that.

I want to so bad put out an open letter for Billal Amen of what was his purpose of going to an ex-IDF sniper now tattoo artist and hugging him.   At one point James asked him what does his tattoo say on his back, he replied it is an arabic saying.  Billy, go and talk to Sayyid 3mmar Nakashawane and ask him what does "In kana deen mohamaden lam yastakim 2illa be katlee fa ya soufou khoudhnee."  Or if he is too far away, I'm sure Hajj Hassan S.(3n al teene) will give you an earfull!  But you are too busy watching football games or Bab al Harra!


Billy Joe Bob, you had an opportunity of a life time to tell the American audience and James who is Imam al Hussain and what he meant by that quote.  But you failed miserably.  You got your 15 minutes of fame telling America you prayed in the Kaaba for the Steelers to win the super bowl. Go back to your precious argeela and whatever remaining brain cells you have left, let it fry, bro.

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah

[Abu Hadi]

Sister, I agree with most of what you said above. These people are Arabs, and the muslim part is pushed into some dark corner of their mind somewhere. You have to understand the bigger picture also. These are the kinds of muslims that main stream, zionist controlled media want to show. They want to make Islam as an 'Arabic' religion so as to discourage non arabs who are not already muslim from even thinking about it. They want to close the loop in their mind, and make them think that Islam is a part of Arabic culture, and then just basically confuse people. I think the show accomplished this purpose and everyone who is on the show is an accomplice to this purpose, whether they realize it or not. I really, really, hope they don't bring the show back and this ghoroor can die a natural death. I have lived in Dearborn for more than 10 years and I am active in the community and have a large Lebanese extended family thru my wife (I am not Lebanese). I consider them my family just like I consider my biological family to be part of me. I love my extended family and all of them do salat, sawm, hajj, don't drink, hang out at clubs or would brag that they prayed for the Steelers to win at Kaaba and they would never have anything to do with this show, that's for sure.  I don't know any of the people on the show personally. Maybe I live on the 'good' side of Dearborn, lol.

Edited by Abu Hadi, 24 February 2012 - 07:20 PM.

[Alejandro Sosa]

 Laayla, on 23 February 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

You got your 15 minutes of fame telling America you prayed in the Kaaba for the Steelers to win the super bowl.
M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah

Yeah that was embarrassing.

 Abu Hadi, on 24 February 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

Sister, I agree with most of what you said above. These people are Arabs, and the muslim part is pushed into some dark corner of their mind somewhere. You have to understand the bigger picture also. These are the kinds of muslims that main stream, zionist controlled media want to show. They want to make Islam as an 'Arabic' religion so as to discourage non arabs who are not already muslim from even thinking about it. They want to close the loop in their mind, and make them think that Islam is a part of Arabic culture, and then just basically confuse people. I think the show accomplished this purpose and everyone who is on the show is an accomplice to this purpose, whether they realize it or not. I really, really, hope they don't bring the show back and this ghoroor can die a natural death. I have lived in Dearborn for more than 10 years and I am active in the community and have a large Lebanese extended family thru my wife (I am not Lebanese). I don't know any of the people on the show personally. Maybe I live on the 'good' side of Dearborn, lol.

No offense but you're talking nonsense

they don't have an agenda about arabs and non-arabs

the agenda is to make these liberal, americanised 'muslims' the 'good, normal' muslims

the ones who actually pray, don't dance in public while wearing hijab, don't listen to music etc etc are the ones they want to make extinct

[Abu Hadi]

Brother no offense, but If I am talking nonsense then so are you. You basically said the same thing as me, but in different words.

[Laayla]

Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum.




They dubbed it in Arabic on OSN.

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah

[Wahdat]

Let me put in my 2 cents or else I wont be able to sleep.

Well, putting myself in the shoes of the majority Americans whose image of a Muslim is a wife beating bearded polygamous terrorists, this show puts things a bit in perspective for them by showing Americans something they have long lost- sense of family, love, and togetherness. And for that I am all for this show to be aired & continued.

oh and the chubby guy with tatoos who thinks he is big is in fact a wuss. he was so scared meeting the israeli guy

[Abu Hadi]

If Americans were more media saavy, I would partially agree with you. The problem is that there not, in general, despite the massive amount of media they consume. They look at messages from the media in a very simplistic and literal way. To me, it is very obvious that the objective of the producers of the show was to create a circus side show act out of the muslim community of Dearborn in order to ensure high ratings for their show. If they showed to life of a typical muslim family in Dearborn, in would be so boring, noone would watch the show. So they have to get the side show freaks and belly dancers to draw people in.
Some examples ( I watched part of a few episodes until I got to annoyed and turned it off)
1) That girl who wanted to open the club ( I forgot her name). She was the main focus of the episode (for some reasons which most here can imagine). At the same time, she is an extreme statistical anomoly when it comes to muslim girls in Dearborn. First, 99.9% of muslim girls in Dearborn would never think of opening up a club, they would be too afraid of the wrath of Allah(s.w.a) to do that. Second, even if they did think about it, they would never do it, and even if they were to do it, they would never publicize the fact that they were the one(s) behind it, they would think of the reputation of their family even if the didn't belive in Allah(s.w.a).
Third, if they were to publicize it, they wouldn't go on national t.v. to do it so that the story is sure to get back to Lebanon and ruin the reputation of their family on both sides of the Atlantic. She is an extreme of an extreme and in no way represents the girls of her age group in Dearborn who are Lebanese or whose parents are Lebanese or Arab or Muslim.

2) The revert, convert to Islam was a joke. It was very obvious that the guy only became muslim to satisfy this girls parents. The second day of Ramadan he broke his fast in the daytime with some very lame excuse and his wife was o.k. with it and let this be known to a national t.v. audience. Not fasting during Ramadan is still considered a big shame here in Dearborn (for the Muslims) and even those who are quasi religious would consider this a big shame. Also, I am a revert to Islam myself and have known many reverts over the years. I have never met one yet who would publically break their fast during Ramadan. He went beyond that by doing it publically in front of the whole world. Again, an extreme of an extreme and not representative of the community of Dearborn or the community of reverts.