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[imaan=faith]

Today I decided to start a series of topics in which explains new Islamic rules which is common but you can not find them on your Marja'a book...like the rule of "Playing Piano" if it's haram or not...etc.
so my source is a special books called "Istita'at" means new issues which are asked from our Marajee.
Note: Any questions can be asked here...
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1- what if we participate in parties like Wedding ceremonies which Musics is used within?

Ayatullah Khamene'ee : It's harram, if it be an encouragment for one who do the sin.
Ayatullah sistani: It's not allowed to participate, if the party be for Binge...
Ayatullah Safi : it's not allowed.


2.What is the rule of trading (buying or selling) Musical instruments like Guitar, Piano, violin, etc ?

Ayatullah Khamne'ee: Buying or selling instruments which are used for Haram is not allowed
Ayatullah Bahjat : it's not allowed.
Ayatullah Makarem: As today these are used for Haram actions, it's not allowed.
Ayatullah Safi: it's not allowed.

3.What's the rule of Shaving and using Tie ?

Ayatullah Khamene'ee: Shaving is Harram / it's better to avoid using tie.
Ayatullah Bahjat : Shaving is not allowed, either all or one part of it.
Ayatullah Sistani: for obligatory cautios it's not allowed / using tie, if it be results to sins, it's not allowed *.
( it means maybe as wearing tie makes muslims like non muslims, if it makes the enemy's population more powerful (because Muslims seems to be one of them) it's harram.)
Ayatullah Makarem: cautios is in not shaving, / and it's better not to use tie, but if it spreads the culture of non-muslims, it's not allowed.

4.are the action of fortune-tellers valid? / how about paying them money?

Ayatullah Khamene'ee: It's Harram
Ayatullah Bahjat : It's not valid by Islam
Ayatullah Makarem: They're action valid and they must not be paid money.

[Waiting for HIM]

Salam, could you please tell us about following too?

1. How about normal boxing? allowed or not?
2. How about kick boxing? allowed or not?
3. How about sky diving?
4. How about hand gliding?
5. How about smoking cigarette?
6. How about smoking pipe?
7. How about smoking hooka?
8. How about hunting animals just for fun. But hunt animal one at a time with one deer per hunt? not an animal massacre.
9. How about NASCAR driving?
10.How about mountain biking?
11.How about reiki, the japanese science of healing with brain?
12. How about yoga?

[imaan=faith]

Salam, could you please tell us about following too? ...

Brother, memorize this rule:
"Doing anything which is harmful for human, it's not allowed and is harram"

so:
* In normal boxing and kick boxing, normally you've to harm others, as its a rule in this game. so not allowed.( Ayatullah Bahjat and other maraje'e)
* In skydiving or parachuting or hand gliding, normally it's not results to harm someone....so no problem and it's ok
* times ago, our scholars used to smoke and it was a common action
but as it proved that it's harmful for human in a long time, it came into this rule...so any kind of smoking is not allowed now.

* In Hunting the number is not important, your purpose is important
so if you hunt to gain meat and use the animal as a food it's ok, but if your intention is to hunt the animals just for fun, even if you use it's meat,
according to our maraje'e, it's haraam and disallowed.

* Driving or Biking or riding is not played to harm human, as their goal is not harming him, so it's ok.
* Ayatullah Makarem: If Yoga normally and logically is useful, it's ok
so may we can say Reiki is like that, if it's normally useful, there is no problem.

[Waiting for HIM]

Brother, memorize this rule:
"Doing anything which is harmful for human, it's not allowed and is harram"

so:
* In normal boxing and kick boxing, normally you've to harm others, as its a rule in this game. so not allowed.( Ayatullah Bahjat and other maraje'e)
* In skydiving or parachuting or hand gliding, normally it's not results to harm someone....so no problem and it's ok
* times ago, our scholars used to smoke and it was a common action
but as it proved that it's harmful for human in a long time, it came into this rule...so any kind of smoking is not allowed now.

* In Hunting the number is not important, your purpose is important
so if you hunt to gain meat and use the animal as a food it's ok, but if your intention is to hunt the animals just for fun, even if you use it's meat,
according to our maraje'e, it's haraam and disallowed.

* Driving or Biking or riding is not played to harm human, as their goal is not harming him, so it's ok.
* Ayatullah Makarem: If Yoga normally and logically is useful, it's ok
so may we can say Reiki is like that, if it's normally useful, there is no problem.

thanks. jazakAllah.

And with these standards, eating sugary food, over eating, drinking more than one can of soda, taking pain medication for addiction, they all are haram too???

No wonder our top notch ulema get to live up to their 90s and 100s and are still energetic and with all mental senses (unlike other older people who lose health rapidly after 70s, and get a little wobbly gobbly up there).

I heard doing salat ul layl saves one from parkinsons and other mental ailments which come with age? Is this true?

Thanks again... you need to come to SC more often.

[AliAlSemawi]

alsalamo alaikom

dear brother how about boxing but not playing matches? so just doing the training without hurting anybody?

[imaan=faith]

And with these standards, eating sugary food, over eating, drinking more than one can of soda, taking pain medication for addiction, they all are haram too???


I heard doing salat ul layl saves one from parkinsons and other mental ailments which come with age? Is this true?

brother
The certain harm must be proved by the experts on each field. so today smoking is obvious harmful..
so as you eat sugary foods, it's not dangerous at all , because the sugar would be changed to energy in our body and it's like a fuel, But yes, if you mean using too much sugar as it may cause a certain illness like Diabetes or something like that, can be included in our rule.

Taking pain medication is not Haraam!!
I said anything which results to a harm...
so this is a kind of Medication, it means it results to a cure and it's against being harmful!
Maybe it's painful for someone, but the result not only is not harmful but also useful or human.

if you heard any hadith about the fruits of Night Prayer, believe it...
the night prayer is a unutterable..

Eltemase dua

dear brother how about boxing but not playing matches? so just doing the training without hurting anybody?

brother
No, if you wanna practice or do the exercise (boxing) by yourself and it's not harmful even for yourself, it's ok..
wassalam

[Waiting for HIM]

Salam brother imaan=faith,

I'm being stickler here...

A couple more questions/clarification about hunting:

1. So you say hunting for pleasure is haram according to our ulema? How about in a place where hunting is highly regulated, a hunter can kill one animal per season, hunting is not allowed during mating or giving birth seasons, you can only hunt an adult animal, can not hunt a baby or a nursing mother animal, hunting is only allowed to animals who are abundant in population (such as deer population in northeast and wolf population in the west) in states? A hunter would kill an animal, would make it zabihah by soon rushing to dead animal (or say bismillah before shooting), would still use its meat and be respectful to the animal and would not be wasteful with its meat and hide etc, would it still be haram?

2. Here's other angle, the deer meat is not available in stores, so can a person hunt a deer for hunting sake, but still consumes its meat? Even though meat of other animals such as goat, sheep, and beef are still available from stores. basically the person is not dying with hunger here. Just want to hunt to eat deer meat?

3. In a bigger scheme of things, if hunting is not allowed, how would a community control the population of certain animals? For example increasing wolf population is becoming cumbersome in west of states where they destroy farm animal. Or in north east, where deer are so many that that you find dead dear on highways all the time who are hit by vehicles etc because of their over population. If government allows to hunt those animals based on strict regulations, then would it be ok?

4. Another very important question - is it halal to start/run a business as a business owner or an employee for a company which sells hunting equipment including, hunting rifles, hunting ammo such as bullets, hunting knives, hunting garb such as camouflage jackets, hunting bows and arrows and so on?

5. If #4 above is halal according to ulema, what if some criminal uses this hunting ammo and hurt another innocent human being. Would the sin of that hurting of an innocent person be also on the business owner of the hunting shop because he was the one who sold the rifle or the hunting bullets etc?

6. What are the rules of fishing? Fishing is also a big time sports in states. Many people fish and release the live fish back in water which is I guess ok. What if you bring the fish home for eating even though you could buy halal fish from store.

Too many issues, so please answer those separately under their numbers so its clear.

Thanks again for taking your time.

Edited by Waiting for HIM, 20 October 2011 - 11:25 AM.

[imaan=faith]

salam Alaikum brother

1- The location of hunting and the rules which governments define doesn't change anything,
If you wanna hunt an animal, either in its season or not, if you need its meat for food, it's ok ( you can hunt the animals which meats are Halal)
but if you wanna hunt as a pleasure, either government allows or not, you're not allowed..

For Zibh, when you hunt and rush to find it, the hunted animal is either killed or not,
if you say bismillah (and your intention is not to be fun hunting) and then shoot, if the animal is killed by your shoot, it's halal
but if it was still alive, you have to do the zibh by a knife to make it halal...
then if you don't say bismillah and then shoot , the animal is not Halal.

2- Hunting animals must be by this intention that you hunt it to use its meat, either you would die without it or not!
so if you hunt a deer to use its meat for your food or any part of it, it's ok, you can hunt it and it's halal (all Marajee)

3- I answered in first question, either government lets you or not, if the Muslim hunters, start hunting for fun, is not allowed,
but if they start hunting either for using their meat or controlling their population or any other intention except pleasure, it's ok .

4-5: the mentioned jobs are ok, because Hunting in Islam is not Hraam!
only in one condition and that's for fun,
Although it's harram to sell weapons to the Islam's enemy, either he be Muslim or non-Muslim.
but about selling weapon to one who has planned to kill an innocent, Ayatullah Marakem says:
"As selling weapon is legal in your country, so selling weapons to adults is ok and you're not responsible what they may use the weapon for"

6- Fishing if be for fun, is like hunting..
so this is the rule, memorize it:
"If you get an alive fish from water (sea, river, even Aquarium) and after that it dies in out of water ( either you kill it, or it dies as because you've kept it out of water) it's halal...it's important that it dies by your action..

either it be hunted by a Muslim or non-Muslim , either its blood comes out or not...
But: Lobster is not allowed to be eaten and also the fished which has no Flakes on its skin..


feel free to ask any question.
wassalam

[Maitham]

2.What is the rule of trading (buying or selling) Musical instruments like Guitar, Piano, violin, etc ?

Ayatullah Khamne'ee: Buying or selling instruments which are used for Haram is not allowed
Ayatullah Bahjat : it's not allowed.
Ayatullah Makarem: As today these are used for Haram actions, it's not allowed.
Ayatullah Safi: it's not allowed.

wa alaykom salam
is the context of usage particular to what it is used for such as if it is used for Islamic song or is it meaning that if anywhere someone uses these instruments to make haram music it is therefor haram in the general sense?

also how is guitar mixed into haram instruments do we have ahadith that say all stringed instruments are haram ?

[imaan=faith]

wa alaykom salam
is the context of usage particular to what it is used for such as if it is used for Islamic song or is it meaning that if anywhere someone uses these instruments to make haram music it is therefor haram in the general sense?

also how is guitar mixed into haram instruments do we have ahadith that say all stringed instruments are haram ?

salam Alaikum
The rule is general and contains all musical instruments..
Either you play Haram Music with or not...
and yes we have hadiths that they say we've to avoid trading these tools.

wassalam

[Waiting for HIM]

salam Alaikum brother,

waalaikum Salam wa rahmat Allah.
Thanks a bunch brother. JazakAllah. See that's why we should have our ulema weighted in gold.

[nadeali67]

assalam-o-alaikum
1) can we eat multivitamins that contain gelatin ( in usa)
2) can we eat food containing small amount of alcohol
3) can we pray wearing leather belts or carrying leather wallets bought from non muslin country
4) is choclate liquor allowed to consume
5) is whey allowed to consume
thanks
wassalam

[imaan=faith]

assalam-o-alaikum
1) can we eat multivitamins that contain gelatin ( in usa)
2) can we eat food containing small amount of alcohol
3) can we pray wearing leather belts or carrying leather wallets bought from non muslin country
4) is choclate liquor allowed to consume
5) is whey allowed to consume
thanks
wassalam

salam Alaikum

1- eating mentioned Mutivitamins is allowed
2- Alcohol is Alcohol, eating any kind of foods contains a bit or a lot Alcohol is not allowed
3-1 leather of which Animal?
if it's the leather of cows it's allowed
3-2 - carrying leather wallets as you mentioned in praying is allowed
4-Any kind of choclate contains Alcohol is forbidden..( if you meant that kind of chocolates)
5- consuming whey is ok and Halal...

wassalam

[Maitham]

salam Alaikum
The rule is general and contains all musical instruments..
Either you play Haram Music with or not...
and yes we have hadiths that they say we've to avoid trading these tools.

wassalam

wa alaykom salam

Thank you for the reply.

What has brought certain maraja to the opinion of allowing the use of certian instruments ? such as makarem shirazi (in certain circumstances). what is the cause of disagreement on those ahadith?

Edited by Maitham, 21 October 2011 - 06:39 PM.

[Ali_Hussain]

3.What's the rule of Shaving and using Tie ?

Ayatullah Khamene'ee: Shaving is Harram / it's better to avoid using tie.
Ayatullah Bahjat : Shaving is not allowed, either all or one part of it.
Ayatullah Sistani: for obligatory cautios it's not allowed / using tie, if it be results to sins, it's not allowed *.
( it means maybe as wearing tie makes muslims like non muslims, if it makes the enemy's population more powerful (because Muslims seems to be one of them) it's harram.)
Ayatullah Makarem: cautios is in not shaving, / and it's better not to use tie, but if it spreads the culture of non-muslims, it's not allowed.

Why is it that with a tie, there is objection as it is spreading the culture of non muslims? What about weddings in pakistan for example, they are a direct immitation of hindu weddings, but I don't hear any objection to them? Surely wearing a tie, isn't as bad. What about the hadith that the best clothing is the clothing of the current people (not exact words)? There are many other items of clothing that spread the culture of non-muslims, in Iran even, there doesn't seem to be any traditional clothing worn by men, they all wear shirts, suits etc,?

What is it that constitutes immitaion of the kufar? If one generation immitates non muslims and this goes on for multiple generations, after that is it accpetable?

thanks,

ws

[imaan=faith]

wa alaykom salam

Thank you for the reply.

What has brought certain maraja to the opinion of allowing the use of certian instruments ? such as makarem shirazi (in certain circumstances). what is the cause of disagreement on those ahadith?

salam Alaikum
They are our Marja'e, means we've to say ok to what they have founded, so of course a Marja'e looks either to the current situation of today, and any other science and all of the Hadiths about this issue, then he says if something is allowed or not.
as a follower, if I follow what my Marja says, either in reality it be true or not, God would not ask me in hereafter why you did wrong!
Also My Marja which said a wrong rule to us would not be punished, because He did his best to find the rule and he did what he was sure about...

so don't look if there is one hadith saying something against your Maraja rule, they have saw these hadiths too...

wassalam

What about weddings in pakistan for example, they are a direct immitation of hindu weddings,...
What about the hadith that the best clothing is the clothing of the current people (not exact words)? There are many other items of clothing that spread the culture of non-muslims, in Iran even, there doesn't seem to be any traditional clothing worn by men, they all wear shirts, suits etc,?

What is it that constitutes immitaion of the kufar? If one generation immitates non muslims and this goes on for multiple generations, after that is it accpetable?

thanks,

ws

salam Alaikum

Brother, you mustn't compare the rules in different issues.
we're talking about the wearing, not wedding, how ever both can spread the non-muslims culture.
so this is the rule:
"wearing any cloth which may spraed the non-muslims culture is forbiden"
now, if their cloth became common through Muslims, its allowed.
like the clothes which you mentioned we wear in Iran and it has become our common cloth now.
but about the tie, it's not a common cloth which people wear in public. so the hadith you mentioned is right but you have to look to your society.
if tie is a common cloth there, you're allowed, or else no...

wassalam

Edited by imaan=faith, 22 October 2011 - 10:29 PM.

[Hakimabidallah]

Assalaymu Alaykom,

It is haraam to eat fish products like Troutt etc from non Halal stores?

Jazaak Allah khair.

[imaan=faith]

Assalaymu Alaykom,

It is haraam to eat fish products like Troutt etc from non Halal stores?

Jazaak Allah khair.

salam Alaikum
It's halal and ok, whether you catch the fish or a non-Muslim catches and sells it to you.
According to Ayatullah sistani, Ayatullah Makarem, etc..

[Waiting for HIM]

Salam,

I want to clarify about the question asked above about the gelatin in vitamin pills sold in USA in general grocery stores.

This gelatin that they use in USA in vitamin pills is definitely coming from the haram animals, najis animal, and/or animals who are not najis but were not killed in halal way so their meat is najis to touch.

So would this still make the gelatin extracted from these animals halal to consume in the form of vitamin capsules?
(most of drug manufacturing in USA is not outsourced to China or India)

[IFK]

Salam

But if there is gelatin in a product, it always mentions if its halal-so how can gelatin be classified as halal unless specifically mentioned?

Also, what exactly does this line mean?:
"Ayatullah sistani: It's not allowed to participate, if the party be for Binge..."

Regarding the clothes-ive never heard the tie thing before..so for a banker/ businessman, where ties are necessary for the profession and completely normal in the Muslim country where they are residing, then would it be allowed? and most women ofcourse wear jeans also. What about salwar suits- those are national dresses- for Muslims and Hindus/ Christians alike- so everyone wears such stuff..

Thankyou

Wasalam

[imaan=faith]

Salam,

I want to clarify about the question asked above about the gelatin in vitamin pills sold in USA in general grocery stores.

This gelatin that they use in USA in vitamin pills is definitely coming from the haram animals, najis animal, and/or animals who are not najis but were not killed in halal way so their meat is najis to touch.

So would this still make the gelatin extracted from these animals halal to consume in the form of vitamin capsules?
(most of drug manufacturing in USA is not outsourced to China or India)

salam Alaikum

one of the Mutahharat (actions or materials which makes najis things clean and pak) is Estehalah.
it means if the main material of the najis thing be changed to something else, it's clean.
like you born a najis oil,its smoke is clean because the oil has changed to another material which is smoke.

so in your question, they may use najis parts of najis animals but as they do many things on it (they change and mix it) and then make it powder and drugs, the original material of probable najis is now has changed and its called Estehalah.
so this drugs are not najis and is halal.

wassalam

[kim.tinkerbell]

Salam

What do you mean by " encouragement for one who do the sin". Does that mean dancing is not allowed in weddings .

Shukran

[imaan=faith]

Salam

What do you mean by " encouragement for one who do the sin". Does that mean dancing is not allowed in weddings .

Shukran

1-It mean such parties be an encouragement for a sinner to sin again...
2- " Does that mean dancing is not allowed in weddings?."

- Dancing is not allowed according to all of Maraje'e...
only one condition, and that's dancing wife for her husband

wassalam

Edited by imaan=faith, 29 October 2011 - 02:53 PM.

[Ali_Hussain]

- Dancing is not allowed according to all of Maraje'e...
only one condition, and that's dancing wife for her husband

salaam brother, I was just wondering, dancing isn't some naturally occuring talent that people have, so where would a woman learn to dance for her husband (I'm assuming this is some kind of bed room dance)

Is it haram for one woman to teach another woman to dance?

Edited by Ali_Hussain, 29 October 2011 - 03:07 PM.

[imaan=faith]

Salam

But if there is gelatin in a product, it always mentions if its halal-so how can gelatin be classified as halal unless specifically mentioned?

Also, what exactly does this line mean?:
"Ayatullah sistani: It's not allowed to participate, if the party be for Binge..."

Regarding the clothes-ive never heard the tie thing before..so for a banker/ businessman, where ties are necessary for the profession and completely normal in the Muslim country where they are residing, then would it be allowed? and most women ofcourse wear jeans also. What about salwar suits- those are national dresses- for Muslims and Hindus/ Christians alike- so everyone wears such stuff..

Thankyou

Wasalam

1- I didn't get the point in your first question.
2- It means the parties which they may do harrams in it, such as may drink or dance ,etc.
3-look, we say wearing ties is not good for Muslims, most of Maraj'e tell us to avoid wearing it...
but yes, if it became the common cloth of Islamic society like Jean or other clothes in Iran, it's ok, because it's not spreading the culture of non Muslims.
totally according to our narrations and Ahadith, Ahlul bayt (a.s) advice us avoid wearing the cloth of the non-Muslim society clothes (yetit has not became the common cloth through Muslims)

salaam brother, I was just wondering, dancing isn't some naturally occuring talent that people have, so where would a woman learn to dance for her husband (I'm assuming this is some kind of bed room dance)

Is it haram for one woman to teach another woman to dance?

Alaikum Assalam
what's the benefit of Dancing?
is it more than exercising ?
can't we learn any better sport?

so Haraam is Haraam, teaching and learning and doing it is not allowed.

Edited by imaan=faith, 29 October 2011 - 03:17 PM.