Cand, on 11 November 2011 - 09:16 PM, said:
Mutah has a HUGE stigma attached to it in Australia, and isn't widely practiced at all. I know of a few brothers through whispers who would prefer to "date" a Christian girl for their needs rather than contract a Mutah, and make something that is essentially haram, hallal with just a few words. But unfortunately, the stigma and shame is what turns the men off, from what I can see.
am also in Australia, melb, the society is extremely hypocritical... fornication is rampant, gays, all sorts of sexual corruptions. Hardly any of the young people with me in university or school did not fall into major sexual corruptions.
maybe the best girl in my section of the university only held hands with boys in public (even though she had hijab) so I dont want to say what the worse did and they also had hijab...
This same hypocrite society fights temporary marriage while it dwells in the most hideous and ugly sexual deviations.
the parents living in complete denial and illusion and delusion of the reality of their kids and each of them says " no my kid doesn't do that"
I dont know what to think whether they are genuinely stupid or that they have self imposed stupidity ??? I mean they remember their own self when they were young so why would they expect their kid to be any different than what they were? Did they forget their own scandals?
we have an example of a girl who was in a haraam relationship with a man for 2 years and she admits that she fornicates with him but not the complete fornication, she has hijab and goes to the mosque ,,,
This same girl was accusing and ruining the reputation of another girl who contracted mut3a as an engagement with the man that she later married permanently.
guess whose reputation was destroyed in the society and who made it to the front lines? the admitting fornicator or the legitimate follower of the sunnah applying mut3a in its most suitable application (engagement)?
The prophet told us that at the end of times evil will be seen as good and good as evil
that same girl who admitted her corruption was faced with a big test after the two years of illegitimate relationship/// her fornication partner suddenly decided to do mut3a with her so he proposed that to her ...
she got very offended and made a big fight with him how dare he says mut3a lol
I Faced a similar situation myself,,, i went with a girl who used to have boyfriend i the past , also she wears hijab, she wanted a relationship without any contract, when i proposed mut3a she got very offended lol
she wasn't offended having a haraam relationship but she got very offended from temporary marriage and destroyed the relationship with me for that reason even though she really liked me!!!
also this one goes to mosques
One of my relatives their son was very into sex from a young age. people complained that he was molesting other girls or trying to but he was very young...
when he started approaching puberty and passed it we talked to him about muta . His parents got very offended and said dont talk to our son and kept him away ..... later after many years i met him... he has a girlfriend and he is saying that he is expecting a baby from her,,, i said did you do a marriage? he said NO ,,,, I didnt know who to curse
whats your excuse? Oh i dont know how its done!!!
I wrote it for him on a paper and i condemned him and told him that he needs to quickly turn to marriage.
he did so later as he claimed.
these people are also hijab wearing allegedly conservative people and come to the mosque often and always read hadeeth al kisaa and dua abu hamza and kumail ibn zyad
another guy who used to come to the mosque I opened the topic with him and he said " yes i have a girlfriend and i practice sex with her" I said to him why didnt you marry? whats so hard about that? he has no answer but to say: I dont know how?
I didnt know who to curse , the second one ? not really cause his influence is only supposed to be over his followers and these people claim to be followers of ahlulbait...
I gave him the formula and wrote it for him on a paper and he didnt seem to have problem with applying it .
we have two boys from our community of "[Edited Out]e" (but without the "e" at the end) got convicted of Rape and both belong to mosque visiting alleged religious hypocrites.
there are countless other scandals which i dont want to say.
all the above people are not secular or aussies or sunnies, they are allegedly shia conservatives who would kill our brain with their talk about honor and modesty ...
what do you think ha your experience in australia been any better? tell me so we could move to your suburb lol
Edited by alimohamad40, 12 November 2011 - 09:29 AM.