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#1 Rasul

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 12:58 AM

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In the first video when he is talking about holding the Qur'aan on your head, I believe he is referring to this:

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4. Place the Holy Qur'an on ones head and say,

While placing the qur’an on the head. Remind yourself that true salvation can only be achieved by always keeping the rules of qur’an ahead of us to follow. The fact that we put the Qur’an on our head is a sign of respect and reverence. We beseech Allah by the thaqalayn - the speaking and the silent Qur'an. - Holy Qur'an (39:56)

O Allah! I appeal to Thee in the name of this Qur'an and the Rooh that was sent along with it, and in the name of the Momin (believer) whose praise is contained in this Book and The obligation that is on them. No one else recognizes the right and truth more than Thee

*After that you say the names of the ahlul bayt*

source: http://www.duas.org/laylat_aamaal.htm
Usually at this time, everyone is crying a lot, so it would seem as "mourning". What he meant by 17 times of prayer is the 17 units (rakka`ah) of prayer that is waajib.

This isn't uncommon, there are many Iranian apostates, just go to California.

P.S. - Can you please use better language in your videos, you are representing Shee`ah islaam.

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#3 Çåá ÇáÈíÊ

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 04:58 AM

This is absolutely disgusting! There are many videos like this and they are so full of BS!

Rasul, you exposed them extremely well, may god reward you!

On a side note, this was pretty hilarious. Expose more of these zionist crackheads.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 06:07 AM

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Wa Aleykuma Salam!

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In the first video when he is talking about holding the Qur'aan on your head, I believe he is referring to this:

He was actually referring to Ashura (Muharram)  :)


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What he meant by 17 times of prayer is the 17 units (rakka`ah) of prayer that is waajib.

maybe you're right maybe not i don't know  :angel:



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This isn't uncommon, there are many Iranian apostates, just go to California.

I wouldn't call them Iranier if they get chance they will destroy Iran...



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P.S. - Can you please use better language in your videos, you are representing Shee`ah islaam.



where did I used bad language  :blink:

wa salam

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 07:07 AM

View PostRasul, on 20 July 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:

















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Why is it so important if they were true Muslims or not? As you live in Sweden you probably know that many people call themselves christians just because Sweden is considered a christian country. So of course we can call them fake christians.

But I have heard that if a  Muslim (not a fake one) converts into another religion he/she will according to Sharia be punished with death. Is this true? And are you planning to introduce such laws in our country?

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 08:50 AM

View PostÇåá ÇáÈíÊ, on 21 July 2011 - 04:58 AM, said:



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This is absolutely disgusting! There are many videos like this and they are so full of BS!

so true :)


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Rasul, you exposed them extremely well, may god reward you!

may Allah bless you and your family :)


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On a side note, this was pretty hilarious. Expose more of these zionist crackheads

inshAllah  :D

WA SALAM


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Posted 21 July 2011 - 12:19 PM

View Posthejsansvejsan, on 21 July 2011 - 07:07 AM, said:



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Why is it so important if they were true Muslims or not?

(It is not about this) I am just exposing their propaganda.  :)


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As you live in Sweden you probably know that many people call themselves christians just because Sweden is considered a christian country. So of course we can call them fake christians.

I understand what you say (but this is not about this) one thing is to call yourself a Muslim, even if you are not a Muslim...

...other thing is to call yourself an ex muslim when you never was muslim and make propoganda against islam.  :)


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But I have heard that if a  Muslim (not a fake one) converts into another religion he/she will according to Sharia be punished with death. Is this true?

Muslims (not a fake one) dont converts into another religions...  :D






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And are you planning to introduce such laws in our country?

we are not Sunnis to introduce laws to european countrys...

we respect the laws of country (in wich we live)







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Posted 21 July 2011 - 01:25 PM

View PostRasul, on 21 July 2011 - 12:19 PM, said:





we are not Sunnis to introduce laws to european countrys...

we respect the laws of country (in wich we live)


Thank you! I am glad to know that.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 03:23 PM

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View PostRasul, on 21 July 2011 - 06:07 AM, said:

He was actually referring to Ashura (Muharram)  :)
No, brother. Go to 1:48 of Monsour's video you hear him saying "in ramaDaan on the 21st night (i.e. Laylatul Qadr) we put the Qur'aan on our heads. Which is one of the a`maals mentioned. And if you do this a`maal at a masjid, then usually people are crying at that time.

You used the BS, which would be considered bad language to many people.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 03:44 PM

Who cares if they are fake.

If they want to convert to Christianity for whatever benefits or lifestyle in the West, go ahead and let them.

Rather then chase them around and criticize them, the best thing is just to show the strength of your religion through your actions and deeds.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 04:31 PM

View PostNader Zaveri, on 21 July 2011 - 03:23 PM, said:


Assalamu Aleykum!

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No, brother. Go to 1:48 of Monsour's video you hear him saying "in ramaDaan on the 21st night (i.e. Laylatul Qadr) we put the Qur'aan on our heads.

Which is one of the a`maals mentioned. And if you do this a`maal at a masjid, then usually people are crying at that time.

I don't say that you have wrong...  but listen carefully from 1:35  in  1:44 he says: Muharram and also...

like I understand he said that people hold Quran up on their heads and mourned on Muharram also...





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You used the BS, which would be considered bad language to many people.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 05:20 PM

View PostShiaBen, on 21 July 2011 - 03:44 PM, said:


Assalamu Aleykum!


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If they want to convert to Christianity for whatever benefits or lifestyle in the West, go ahead and let them.

one thing is to converting into Christianity other thing is to use this as propoganda against Islam... see what this guy is saying...





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Rather then chase them around and criticize them, the best thing is just to show the strength of your religion through your actions and deeds.


what you said is true...  but not in this case...   :)

Wa Salam


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Thank you! I am glad to know that.

I am glad, that you are glad  :)

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 10:36 AM

what a lie

as mentioned above we should focus on presenting the true belief of our religion to the world

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 01:33 PM

Dr. Ergun Caner is also a desperate liar :D In my country, misionaries and churches often lie and make propaganda to convert other religious believers into their false Saul of Tarsus's religion.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 09:55 AM

View Posthejsansvejsan, on 21 July 2011 - 07:07 AM, said:

Why is it so important if they were true Muslims or not? As you live in Sweden you probably know that many people call themselves christians just because Sweden is considered a christian country. So of course we can call them fake christians.

But I have heard that if a  Muslim (not a fake one) converts into another religion he/she will according to Sharia be punished with death. Is this true? And are you planning to introduce such laws in our country?

Because it's truth which guides man and falsehood which deviates him; do you believe in every human?

Christian

'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world,
and they are not arrogant.

"Surley those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord.
And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve."

These are the true Christians, Jews and Sabians. Would it be just by Allah to give this faithful devotees a Paradise and those who claim they are "true Christians, Jews and Sabians"?

- [59:20] Not  equal  are  the   companions  of  the  Fire  and  the  companions  of  Paradise.  The  companions  of  Paradise  -   they  are  the  attainers  [of  success]. [Surat al-Hashr]

For an arrogant person would not care about his faithful and nor would he fear his Lord; then what would stop that person from telling a lie? Certainty, no faithful man would someone to prescribe lies about his faith; even an ignorant person [about his faith, but yet believes] would not allow it.

The eyes cannot comprehend the truth, only the heart.

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The heart of man earns whatever it strives for and its destination ends at its contentment. Those who seek God shall find God, those who seek an argument shall find an argument, and those who seek a reply shall find a reply, God says:

"So let anyone who wishes take the way toward his Lord. But you do not wish unless it is wished by Allah. Indeed Allah is all-knowing, all-wise." - Quran, al-Insan, 76:29-30.

Whosoever God has made his heart find rest at His remembrance has prospered into the heights of man, beyond the angelical kingdom towards salvation, and finally annihilation in the Beloved. But as for him whose deeds weigh light in the scales, his home will be the Abyss. They treaded upon a path without an end, an abyss, for beyond God -- there is nothing else -- and these hearts shall never see the light of their journey; thus they search for answer until the weariness of the journey overcomes them and stops at whatever is between their hands and seeks not what is beyond that, thus: "They know just an outward aspect of the life of the world, but they are oblivious of the Hereafter." - Quran, al-Rum, 30:7.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 05:20 PM

View PostJust_A_Submitter, on 30 July 2011 - 01:33 PM, said:

Dr. Ergun Caner is also a desperate liar :D In my country, misionaries and churches often lie and make propaganda to convert other religious believers into their false Saul of Tarsus's religion.

yes this guy was exposed many times.... :lol:

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 12:38 AM

Rasul, that was very mean, although im not sunni. Why must we put down the other sects?

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 10:08 AM

I have a question.....what if they really believe that what they are doing is right and it is what Allah wants? If they went against what they believe Allah wants wouldn't that also be wrong? Also don't accuse me of blasphemy it is a real question that I would like to hear opinions on....and don't copy and paste the qu'ran give your opinion. We really have no right to accuse, judge or put them down that is up to a higher power and there isn't really anything we can do to change these people.

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 09:47 PM

View PostJust_A_Submitter, on 30 July 2011 - 01:33 PM, said:

Dr. Ergun Caner is also a desperate liar Posted Image In my country, misionaries and churches often lie and make propaganda to convert other religious believers into their false Saul of Tarsus's religion.

Where are you from if you don't mind me asking? What sort of things do the missionaries and churches tell you?

I know a lot of missionaries here in my country, and when I reverted to Islam they... weren't too happy. I went to Bible college and that's how I had met them. They told me that the Muslims overseas are rude to them for no reason. But they would never tell me what sort of things they said to the Muslims they met. I catch a lot of grief from them here since I reverted and I really don't know how to respond to them at times. The ones I know are all former teachers of mine, and I wasn't really sure how to respond when they said that Muslims overseas weren't nice to them since they wouldn't tell me how they first spoke and behaved towards the Muslims they met.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 05:53 AM

View PostImAli, on 18 August 2011 - 10:08 AM, said:

I have a question.....what if they really believe that what they are doing is right and it is what Allah wants? If they went against what they believe Allah wants wouldn't that also be wrong? Also don't accuse me of blasphemy it is a real question that I would like to hear opinions on....and don't copy and paste the qu'ran give your opinion. We really have no right to accuse, judge or put them down that is up to a higher power and there isn't really anything we can do to change these people.

They can believe in whatever they want to believe, this video is made as anti Evangelical Zionist propoganda.

All 'ex Shia "in this video have never been shia muslims (or muslims) they are Shahparast (Iranian Nationalists)

I am just exposing their anti shia (Islam)  propaganda :)

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 08:50 AM

View PostRasul, on 25 August 2011 - 05:53 AM, said:

They can believe in whatever they want to believe, this video is made as anti Evangelical Zionist propoganda.

All 'ex Shia "in this video have never been shia muslims (or muslims) they are Shahparast (Iranian Nationalists)

I am just exposing their anti shia (Islam)  propaganda :)

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