satyaban, on 17 May 2011 - 11:32 PM, said:
What do the people across North Africa call themselves, Arabs right? Do you think all Arabs should return to Arabia?
Nice try but you fail! There was no spread of "Arab" people there was only spread of Arab culture and the Arabic language, a process commonly termed "Arabization" (cultural and linguistic in nature). The spread of the Arabic language is obvious and goes much with the spread of the religion of Islam (which is part of the cultural "Arabization" of places like North Africa). This is nothing like what happened with white European "Christians" invading Meso-"America", killing the people, and stealing the land. You could try to make a case for South America with the genocidal Spanish Conquistador invaders mixing in to some degree (i.e. enslaving and raping the indigenous women) but certainly not in the North American context where white Europeans just killed and stole the land and did not mix in any large degree with the Mongoloid Indigenous Native Americans. As for the indigenous and still remaining people of North Africa (commonly termed "Arabs" because they today mostly speak the Arabic language as their mother tongue) for example on just one of these North African nations, Egypt, read from the scholar Shomarka Omar Yahya Keita about Egypt and its historical diversity from the beginning (S.O.Y. Keita: http://en.wikipedia....ki/S.O.Y._Keita
) Keita stated regarding the peoples of Ancient Egypt; "it can be imagined that the modern diversity to be found in Egypt in terms of craniofacial features, skin colour, what have you, would likely have been very similar to that found in the past."
Meaning these differences in skin tones in North Africa are natural and part of the natural diversity found on the African continent, not alleged "evidence" of some outside invasion of any kind! So there was no "Arab" invasion, the people are the same people they have just been culturally and linguistically "Arabized": again unlike many of the indigenous people of Meso-"America" who were killed off in massive genocides by invading, thieving white European "Christian" criminals.
Some examples of diverse people termed "Arabs" (because centuries ago their ancestors were culturally and linguistically "Arabized" but they are all still from their Native lands).
Black African Omar al-Bashir of Sudan, who is a black African just like all Sudanese regardless of what they are categorized as because of the language they use as their mother tongue. There is no such thing as an "Arab" Sudanese person they are all black Africans (some just speak the Arabic language, in the Sudanese dialect, as their mother tongue) just compare Omar al-Bashir's skin tone to someone stereotypical thought of as an "Arab" like say Osama bin Laden (http://i.telegraph.c...en_1238702c.jpg
) or Saddam Hussein of Iraq (http://www.gwu.edu/~...andshake300.jpg
). Then compare Omar al-Bashir's skin tone to a fellow African leader like say for just one example the leader of the southern African nation of Zambia: Rupiah Banda (http://en.wikipedia....ki/Rupiah_Banda
) who is black and nobody considers "Arab". Omar al-Bashir is clearly closer in skin tone and general physical appearance to a fellow African leader like Zambia's non-Arab leader Rupiah Banda then he is to Middle Eastern Arab individuals like the now deceased Osama bin Laden or Saddam Hussein. "Race" itself is a completely unscientific social construct, and "Arab" in particular is not an alleged "race" it is only a culture and most importantly a language.
Muammar Gaddafi a Libyan person with clear Berber lineage or ancestry (yet he still speaks Arabic and is considered Arab)
Palestinian Christian writer Anton Shammas, who is a Palestinian Arab (http://en.wikipedia....i/Anton_Shammas
). Palestinians descended from the ancient people of the land of Canaan like the Jebusites and the overall people called Canaanites as Dr. Ariella Oppenheim's genetic studies proved. http://www.huffingto...7_68780291.html
Quote- Results of a DNA study by geneticist Dr. Ariella Oppenheim appears to match historical accounts that Arab Israelis and Palestinians, together as the one same population (i.e. Palestinian Arabs), represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times"
, albeit religiously first Christianized then largely Islamized, and all eventually culturally Arabized. Referring to those of the Muslim faith more specifically, it reaffirmed that Palestinian "Muslim Arabs are descended from Christians and Jews who lived in the southern Levant, a region that includes Israel, Sinai and part of Jordan." Geneticist Michael Hammer praised "the study for 'focusing in detail on the Jewish and Palestinian populations.'"
http://www.huffingto...5_72118790.html (See user "Anbreen" and her great posts on here
Again Palestinian Christian writer Anton Shammas:
I could post many more, different examples but I think these three pictures show my point about the diversity of people commonly termed Arab (who all speak the Arabic language as their mother tongue, albeit usually in different local dialects other than when speaking in or using fusha "classical Arabic" or today's universal Modern Standard Arabic).
Edited by Basra, 18 May 2011 - 12:21 AM.