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[fjawad25]

Salam


Demon Possession is it Real or Just a Mental Disorder  - Can someone tell me Islam's point of view on Demon possession? Any online books or lectures related to it?


Thanks

[Kamranistan]

We don't believe in 'demons' but there are those who have been created along side us, humans, in another realm that are named - Jinn.
They can posses human beings.

I don't know of any good books on the topic, but this should get you started - http://www.shiachat....pic/8511-jinns/

[habib e najjaar]

This chapter from the book greater sins is eye opening: Sorcery: A Greater Sin
Read it in detail, and while it may not answer your questions on demon possession, it certainly opens your eyes to the existence of unseen realities.

[iSilurian]

fjawad25, on 11 April 2011 - 08:12 AM, said:

Salam


Demon Possession is it Real or Just a Mental Disorder  - Can someone tell me Islam's point of view on Demon possession? Any online books or lectures related to it?


Thanks

http://en.wikipedia....Scientific_view

[iSilurian]

fjawad25, on 11 April 2011 - 08:12 AM, said:

Salam


Demon Possession is it Real or Just a Mental Disorder  - Can someone tell me Islam's point of view on Demon possession? Any online books or lectures related to it?


Thanks

if you look up "exorcism" on wikipedia, there is a section in relation to the scientific opinion of it. i would recommend reading that.

[asharp]

iSilurian, on 11 May 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

if you look up "exorcism" on wikipedia, there is a section in relation to the scientific opinion of it. i would recommend reading that.

Bro science can only explain so much. It cannot explain anything that exists outside our 5 senses. How do you explain someone being possessed and speaking acient ARAMIC or languages they do not know. Or how do you explain someone having so much strength and cannot be held down by 5 6 people?

[iSilurian]

asharp, on 08 June 2011 - 01:11 AM, said:

Bro science can only explain so much. It cannot explain anything that exists outside our 5 senses. How do you explain someone being possessed and speaking acient ARAMIC or languages they do not know. Or how do you explain someone having so much strength and cannot be held down by 5 6 people?

I guess ill repeat...again .

I dont generally trust youtube videos, word of mouth, or psychics.

[xstatik2]

Well i have some knowledge on this subject as it has always been a case for curious benjamin even when i was younger. I had always questioned the existence of jinns and have always been told that there are jinns which exist in the world, just like Angels.

It has best been prescribed that none should stray close to their world and they should be left alone to complete their worship of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì. They are present in your homes, in the mosques and even on streets... any disturbance towards them would harm them and could also be dangerous for us humans.

[Agha-Shabbir-Abbas]

Salaam Alaikum,

If you are afflicted by some sort of evil, it may just be black magic. Read the tafsir of Surah al Falaq to understand how to remain safe from black magic. There is many Hadith on RasulAllah (s) and his fight with black magic.

[shahed88]

fjawad25, on 11 April 2011 - 08:12 AM, said:

Salam


Demon Possession is it Real or Just a Mental Disorder  - Can someone tell me Islam's point of view on Demon possession? Any online books or lectures related to it?

Thanks

I think you're referring to two different things. Demon position implies sorcery. A mental health problem/disorder is an imbalance in the brain's chemicals. So it's not an 'or' it's an 'and'.

[ImAli]

shahed88, on 17 November 2011 - 04:54 PM, said:

I think you're referring to two different things. Demon position implies sorcery. A mental health problem/disorder is an imbalance in the brain's chemicals. So it's not an 'or' it's an 'and'.

Please explain how demon possession implies sorcery, and is sorcery even possible? Isn't sorcery usually fake 99.9999% of the time? If demon possession is possible at all....couldn't it be possible for someone to be possessed without sorcery even being involved?

[DeeeeeBo]

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Please explain how demon possession implies sorcery, and is sorcery even possible? Isn't sorcery usually fake 99.9999% of the time? If demon possession is possible at all....couldn't it be possible for someone to be possessed without sorcery even being involved?

I dont think it does,

I was possessed lol, and it just happened out of the blue, i had a jin that would bother me for 10+ years, we actually found out i was "possessed" by accident

Ill openly vouch its real and its true, and my best advice is keep your prayers up, stay positive, and dont be a curious cat lol because your basically inviting them to come hang with you and bother you !!!

My 2 cents

Salams

[0feedmeplz]

i really wanna kno why most demon possessions happen in uneducated and often superstitious societies

[ImAli]

DeeeeeBo, on 19 November 2011 - 05:53 PM, said:

I dont think it does,

I was possessed lol, and it just happened out of the blue, i had a jin that would bother me for 10+ years, we actually found out i was "possessed" by accident

Ill openly vouch its real and its true, and my best advice is keep your prayers up, stay positive, and dont be a curious cat lol because your basically inviting them to come hang with you and bother you !!!

My 2 cents

Salams

I think I told you before about the place we used to live. Something would play with my hair while I was sleeping and when I would try to get up I couldn't move.....once I even seen swirls of smoke from the corner of my eye, scared me to death. Another time I was sleeping on the sofa and I woke up with something trying to suck all of the air out of my mouth, I jumped up, the thing ran (it was very thin and lightening fast).....I was sitting up and my eyes focused to the hallway, it peeked quickly around the corner then left.....I SAW IT! Things like this happened  more than once but these were the most memorable, and it was all in the same house.....NO IT WASN'T sleep paralysis. After we moved it never happened again....so I am convinced something was in that house and it liked to pick on me. It never managed to possess me.....and do I think sorcery was involved....no I don't think so.

[ImAli]

0feedmeplz, on 19 November 2011 - 11:23 PM, said:

i really wanna kno why most demon possessions happen in uneducated and often superstitious societies

I think the reason is because superstitious societies give them recognition and they feed off of it and get a kick out of it. It must be rather boring for them to hang around in a society where everyone ignores them....know what I mean?

[TarekH]

The Possesion of a Jinn is quiet real and does happen. The jinn chooses to possess those who are weak in faith as they make an easy target. They dont fight his/her desires. It is extremley important and i talk for myself as well to ensure that you keep up with your prayers and strengthen your iman.

[Gotham]

TarekH, on 13 December 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

The Possesion of a Jinn is quiet real and does happen. The jinn chooses to possess those who are weak in faith as they make an easy target. They dont fight his/her desires. It is extremley important and i talk for myself as well to ensure that you keep up with your prayers and strengthen your iman.

so it actually happens? ive read about it, and for the most part, ive only heard desi people talk about it happening to them-- never a middle easterner, or anyone else, so i never believed that one could actually become possessed .__.

[Najafiam]

Demon Possession is it Real or Just a Mental Disorder - Can someone tell me Islam's point of view on Demon possession? Any online books or lectures related to it?

Assala alaikum,

The proof that jinns possess human body comes from the fact that one of the many miracles of Prohet Esa A.S(Jesus Christ) was that he used to perform exorcism.

[ghulam e Mahdi]

maybe in the world of demons when some1 acts crazy they it human posessed.

[Saviour]

I'm Pretty sure i heard that Jins can see us but we cannot see them. But I have seen some creepy videos on Youtube, some i Believe, some not so much. But You should just stay away.

Ayatul Kursi.

[Son of Placid]

I was involved in an exorcism many years ago. Two demons possessing one woman. My job was to sit in the outer room and pray for deliverance.Twice I experienced an eerie sense that an enraged "something" entered the room and stared at me before leaving. They both had a raunchy odor to them but different from each other. The story is a little longer than that but the main point I'd like to make is that they hounded me for years. I had to recognize their interferance in a lot of things that happened.

As a Christian I'm not supposed to believe in Jinn, (there is only good and evil out there) but I met a fellow who was diagnosed with schizophrenia. His main problem was, as I called them, "head friends" They never gave this guy any good advice, nor got him ahead in any direction, but after he left our home we had a lady visiting who shrieked. We asked her wha...and she said "Have you ever had that feeling something just walked right through you" um, no...Then one day my son came up stairs with eyes wide as saucers and told me he saw someone walk past him. I went downstairs and in the bathroom I felt a presence, but not an angry smelly thing, this seemed to be hiding and scared. This time I didn't pray for it to leave I meerly spoke to it, told it that this guy was gone and there was no reason for it to stay. It left. It wasn't evil like the others. I'm thinking it must have been a jinn.

The evil I met might have been jinn, I don't know. The one that was not evil changed my mind about Christian beliefs. Some, not all, people who have schozophrenia seem to be able to see into this other realm. I watched this guy sit in a room and talk as if he was in a group. Laughed at their jokes, but he was a little overboard.

My 2 cents. Yes there are evil spirits and others that are not evil, but not angels. Call them demons, call them jinn, I don't know for sure.
Yes these evil spirits can possess, obsess, opress, and/or influence.
Posession is not a mental illness but can be present for those that have a mental illness, or can make people nuts.

I've never actually seen anything but can tell you that far away from them is the best place to stay.

[yellow billed magpie]

DeeeeeBo, on 19 November 2011 - 05:53 PM, said:

I dont think it does,

I was possessed lol, and it just happened out of the blue, i had a jin that would bother me for 10+ years, we actually found out i was "possessed" by accident

Ill openly vouch its real and its true, and my best advice is keep your prayers up, stay positive, and dont be a curious cat lol because your basically inviting them to come hang with you and bother you !!!

My 2 cents

Salams

Salam-my parents played with a ouija board when I was a little kid-it told them all sorts of stuff, like where stuff that was lost could be found-it told them that 'his', the spirit of the board, name wasDavid, and that he was the guy my mom had gone to the highschool prom with, and upon researching it, my parents discovered that David had in fact died, which neither of them were aware of at that time, it also told them that they would have 3 children-my parents at the time had planned on only having 2 of us, and lo and behold, my youngest bro came along-the spirit also told my parents that he was going to be reincarnated as my youngest bro and what characteristics his personality would have :/ Its been a bad joke between my youngest bro ever since that he 'dated' our mom...It is my understanding that the 'spirits' that are contacted through mediums, psychics,ouija boards and what not, are NOT spirits of humans that have passed on, but are Jinn...

[asif12716]

Demons are only associated with childrens who are always made to to do what elders want them to do by telling them if they don't obey their order or advice then demon will take them away with him.no adult would ever traced any devon or ghost.in many instances jinn attack humans. But they can be easily scared, or driven away.

[Inception]

Salaam aleykom
interesting..

but still no research based answers, where are you??!!

What I have heard is they can affect our reality very slightly, but they can make us notice them somehow...

maybe they are concentrated in certain places (our experience in the family), not fresh modern places...but rather, houses or places that haven't been renovated for many years, and this may leave some places "unclean" and dirty...or something in this sense..
I think they are just bullying around from what I've heard..no real harm...I dont know

HOPE they are just bullying around, otherwise, if they really have the ability to affect our reality... mummy

[Dawud1UK]

Salam brother, this is a really interesting topic for me aswell .

Jinns are around us and have been since before our existence. Jinn possessions do occur. Individuals who suffer from schizophrenia and other disorders are said to be possessed by jinns.

One thing to consider is that black magic is closely related to jinns. In the way that if sorcery is used it usually often involves the use of jinns to carry out the "dirty" work. Such as ordering a jinn to possess someone, to cause harm to someone or to scare someone.

Here is a really good E-Book to read, I've read it myself including tonnes of online posts and also through talking with people I know.

http://www.kalamulla.../JinnDevils.pdf

@0feedmeplz
My view on why they happen in uneducated societies, is because uneducated societies tend to be rural areas. So therefore if we take for instance a area that has a lot of open space, it may have a small population. So therefore there are more likely to be jinn among them. Jinns are more likely to reside in rural areas and areas of small population. Also taking into account that societies that are uneducated and superstitious could mean that they are highly religious instead. Now the unbelieving jinn for some reason would possess or disturb the people with faith in God.

I can't tell you why they do it. However they just do. Among the jinn are those that believe in God and those that don't. Just like us humans some of us believe in God and some of us don't. Now we also have a lot of criminals and individuals who carry out black magic i.e. contact with the "outside" world with jinns etc. This has been forbidden by God. Therefore for this same reason jinn also deviate and they have the ability to possess us appear to us and scare us etc.