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[Ali H Syed]

just a question, ive seen and heard of narrations such as these:

Ghaibat Tusi:

It is narrated from Qarqara from Ismail bin Abdullah binMaimoon from Muhammad bin Abdur Rahman from Ja’far bin Saad Kahili fromAmash from Bashir bin Ghalib that he said:

“Sufyani will come from the Roman area in the disguise of a Christian. Across will hang from his neck and he will be leading a group.”

ones that suggest that the sufyani will be a European as to say, but in actual fact his ancestory has been hidden, some narrate he will bury his mother alive or along those lines to conceal this...

back to the point, if these are true, and reports such as this:

http://euobserver.com/13/114380

http://en.wikipedia....ational_Council

could the sufyani be the ruler of this new council? , but actually be a complete puppet of the US/UK etc? thus metaphorically the narrations would fit?

and also reports that france acknowledged this council etc etc

just wanted your thoughts on this concept of the sufyani

"The US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, deemed the Syrian National Council as an “leading and legitimate representative of Syrians seeking a peaceful democratic transition,” and that the United States was “committed to helping . . . make this transition.

Edited by Ali H Syed, 20 January 2012 - 01:45 PM.

[Jihadi]

is there any descriptions on sufyani ?

[Abbas0]

RiseOrDie, on 20 January 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

The sufyani is king abdullah of Jordan. He is from bani hashem through the line of Imam hassan. Imam hassan had marriage relationship with bani ummaya. thats how the arabs created relations back then.

he will unite palestine with jordan and israel will move back to 67 borders to make him look the part, he will then go to syria which should be in chaos after civil war and international intervention, and later iraq. he comes from wadi al yabis, the dry valley of jordan. he is a dajjalic puppet, alcoholic and recognises the independent of Israel***. and he is charismatic and loved by his followers. he has joined the GGC(gulf cooperation council) and will send 70,000 troops to the gulf countries in 2012 as reported.

He is RED as described and he was the one who came out with the term 'shia crescent'

I'm sure he will chill out for now, until the shia and sunni kill each other after fitna, then the shia should win this and he will come to rescue the sunnis. or make it seem that way. he will kill the alawis of syria, and then goes to the shia of iraq whom are also suppressing the sunnis.

both, the shia government of iraq and the alwai shia government of syria are not the true followers of ahlulbayte even though they claim so.

You see many of the shias and sunnis are hypocrites today, possibly 80% of them if i was to be nice. they are liars and cheaters and if you lived there you wouldnt notice, but if you are good and you go there(islamic country) you will notice the hypocrisy and ask yourself if there are any true followers amongst them.

all the hypocrites will clean each other out, in fact the sufyani will only pave the way for our mahdi without even realising it. He will cause the true muslims to unite, and prepare for the mahdi.

Please share more with us! i am very interested, are u sure u really think its him?

[RiseOrDie]

Abbas0, on 20 January 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Please share more with us! i am very interested, are u sure u really think its him?

a picture speaks a thousand words:





dajjals crown


another crown



Islam?


what Islam?


if you stand in his way you get this face

with so much prestige and a british mother we can be sure that he will no be deposed like mubarak




and finally here it is



He is the closest thing to a sufyani or a muwayia and a yazeed, because he is not truly a muslim, but all he does is politically motivated Amazingly he had stayed under the radar for quite some time, until recently when he said that if he was bashar al assad he would step down, and later when he hosted the israeli-palestine talks this month.. as time passes he will gain more popularity and support through out the region.

I am only assuming

Edited by RiseOrDie, 20 January 2012 - 06:42 PM.

[Abbas0]

Brother I am shocked. I do not know what to say... That video clip just ruined my appetite. But what about the hadiths that explain his appearance for example the chicken pox on his face, the ugliness i dont know but sure seems like this guys messed up!

[ShiaBen]

Mo., on 26 March 2011 - 02:46 AM, said:

I don't think Assad is gonna step down just like that. I think Syria's death toll will rise significantly, maybe reaching the hundreds of thousands.

Merely hypothetical, what do you think?

We know Assad has good relations with Iran and Hezbollah. We know his anti-Israeli stance is excellent. We know that. Personally I dont think the Sufyani age is near us.

But since all you guys are saying the Sufyani will replace Assad's regime, what if it turns out to be him in the first place?

We'll eventually figure out a way to take out his true form in the near future LOL!

[RiseOrDie]

Abbas0, on 20 January 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

Brother I am shocked. I do not know what to say... That video clip just ruined my appetite. But what about the hadiths that explain his appearance for example the chicken pox on his face, the ugliness i dont know but sure seems like this guys messed up!

well yes and no.

first of all in some narrations there are 3 sufyanis,

apparently the first sufyani was Saddam
the second sufyani will be ugly and deformed
and the 3rd sufyani who will fight the mahdi will be strong with big head and arms/shoulders

But the sufyani is described as RED, BLUE, and WHITE/YELLOW.

these could be his flag colours, or simply his colours we can never be sure until it happens.

one thing for sure about abdullah is that he is a closet christian just as described about the sufyani.

A roman puppet/tool

It says that the sufyani will appear pious muslim, but he wears the cross under his clothing.

[RiseOrDie]

It matters not who the Sufyani is, we pray everyday that Allah with all his greatness and glory to hasten Imam Al-Mahdi's appearance. We must all entrench the Mahdi deep into our minds so that at every moment, before we sleep and when we wake up he is the first thought. Pray brothers sisters, each day we are brought closer to his advent, and every time 1000 people go astray and against the will of Allah, 1 person earns the nearness to Allah and that 1 person is equivalent to thousands of them.

[Jihadi]

I think there is a big possibility this guy is the sufyani he is the leader of the opposition in syria, he says he will cut ties with hezbolla iran and to top it off he will make peace with israel, heres some history of himhttp://en.wikipedia....Burhan_Ghalioun

and this is a video of him addressing the opposition in syria  he looks evil to me  



and this is him in washington what a hypocrit , he might carry the cross with him since he is friends with the cristians in washington and trying to create his name known there





here is a page were it talks about the splitting and disagreements of the oppositions in syrian its happening already

http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-15665622

Edited by Jihadi, 21 January 2012 - 03:49 PM.

[Abbas0]

You need to realize that two parties fight over syria and completely destroy it therefore a random third firgure(sufyani) sees this as an advantage and he dominates it.
Therefore we can't really know who he is until inshallah Rajjab or maybe the rajjab 10 years from now, we can't be certain, but we do know he comes out in revolt in the month of rajjab!

[alimohamad40]

they say the sufyani will be named " uthman bin anbasa"

he will come from the dry valley between jordon and syria ( hawraan ) which is currently having uprising


they say he never prayed in his life

his face has signs of pimples

he will come after two flags in the levant had conflicted  the a " ashab" and the abqa"

ashab is the blonde

abqa is the patchy face

they will fight and one of them will win then sufyani will come and kill the winner and take control
but during the war between these three flags the shias will be safe but after the sufyani finishes from the war and controls thats when he turns  against the shias

[Qamar Ariff]

Salam

I think the Assad family is a good candidate for the sufyani that the prophet pbuh had said in the Hadith on iman Mahdi. Here's what Wikipedia says about the Assad family "The Assads are originally from Qardaha, just east of Latakia in north-west Syria. They are members of the minority Alawite sect and belong to the Kalbiyya tribe" So happen that the muawiyah are descendants of Abu sufyan and they are based in Syria. Also the Assad family is indeed very cruel just like what the Hadith had described.

If indeed they are the sufyani as described by the prophet pbuh, they will naturally oppose the Mahdi unlike the other countries who have been liberated from the despotic rules of dictators. Also, the Islamist government of the Arab countries liberated by the Arab spring would naturally pledge allegiance to the Mahdi. As the prophet said the Mahdi will rule over the Arab and why not all Muslim countries. If they sufyani falls then Syria most likely will be ruled by Islamist just like the other Arab spring countries. 

The likelihood is indeed real and interesting and imminent. The next caliphate led by the mahdi is just around the corner

[alimohamad40]

^^^

i feel the arab spring is a fail because of many things

the revolt was mainly for economical reasons not for principals and it was based on suicide

it had nothing to do with islam and its main issues namely the battle with the global zionism ,,, the proof is that the syrian revolt started before anything serious happened in the dictator gulf nations even though syria is the only arab country that has no Zionist embassy

and the revolts did not succeed yet

in egypt still the same dictators are in power but the conditions got alot worse and those dictators are zionists,,,

in tunisya just one person changed but still the new government  is not saying the truth in the face of the global zionism and trying to get advantages from the big powers on the cost of truth like the current iraqi government

in libya they got rid of qathafi but its another iraq repeating, western interference and later sectarianism battles and hence free oil for the big ones

things dont look right... i think people later will start regretting the ousting of thier tyrant dictators because the alternatives will bring more tyranny  just like in iraq

all these countries look at their situations

Edited by alimohamad40, 27 January 2012 - 08:56 AM.

[Ya Baqiyatullah (aj)]

The Sufyani has not been identified and I hardly think Assad or Jordan's Abdullah fit the bill via ahadith, we still have to wait.

[SoldierOfIslam]

Salam Alaikum

Yes Sufyani will rise from Syria and Yes it has started! It has started from the cities that were mentioned in riwayats and yes it will get WORSE this is nothing what you are watching or seeing as yet and yes womens bellies will be ripped open and maybe has as you know media of western world is media of shaitan so you will not hear about it unless you have contact with people you know that reside in syria or maybe press tv.We must start preparing for the return of the Mahdi atfh although NO ONE can give exact time of his coming but there signs mentioned of his coming and therefore what is happening in Yemen, Syria and Bahrain are the very close signs AND VERY CLOSE when the attack on Iran happens which will happen.

MIKYALUL MAKARIM this book was written under the order of the Mahdi atfh it is available online google it and try duas.org its a MUST get to know your Imam atfh and the signs of his return inshallah.


wasalam

[Martyrdom]

If President Asad is the sufyani so what will fight him the Axis of resistance is not with President Asad because of his looks they are with him because of what he has done for the resistance and his his political stance.  If his political stance changes which I doubt because he suffered a lot for it so far but he can care less the then resistance would stop supporting him.  We need to stop looking at the tree and look at the whole forest.

south-lebanon, on 20 November 2011 - 02:46 PM, said:

I dont know much about the sufyani, but isnt' he someone that decieves the muslims into thinking he is a true, honest and religious leader but then he turns out to be an imposter?, So if thats the case,  why isnt anyone pointing the finger at the Turkish prime minister Erdogan. hasn't he aqurired a massive amount of support in the last few years because of his so-called religious stance and his pro resistance stance against Israel, didn't even Sayed Hassan Nasrallah call him following the Gaza raid "Ya Tayib" (which is a cmpliment in Arabic which obviously sound like his first name). Now Erdogan has shown his true colours by opposing the only government resistance in the Arab world that opposes Israel, while he still supports governments who are more oppresive and more Autocratic than Syria.

Meanwhile see what Turkey is doinig to the Kurds and noone cares about them, Just like how noone cared about how the zionist brutaly put down any Palestinian resistance.

Powerful video brother I never knew the kurds were suffering so much I wish i could do something to help them.

[Abbas0]

MAFHHZB, on 10 February 2012 - 08:45 AM, said:

I guess abqa and ashab are Assad and the Free Syrian army fighting and destroying Syria now.
And I saw a report that the Nato have gathered at the border of Jorden.
I also read in a book that some major earthquake would occur in Syria heavily inflicting the two ashab and abqa, and thus the army from border of Jordan lead by Sufyani enters taking the opportunity at hand.

Honestly, judging on the hadiths we read, we can't really say that the abqa and ashab are assad and the free syria army. Because of what those two words literally mean. Also, the earthquake that occurs would be major but some say that the earthquake could mean just a huge event, but only god knows. Also, a hadith I've read before states the mosque in Damascus would get demolished. That is a big sign towards the rising of Sufyani if it were to happen. Also, judging by what brother RiseOrDie said previously, maybe King Abdullah of Jordan is really the Sufyani and he's just waiting for the right opportunity to dominate and rule for the state of Isreal, but WHO REALLY KNOWS!?

We could be living in fairytales you know.

[Philip]

 king of jordan.jpg   37.82K   5 downloads

The pic posted by RiseOrDie has the jordanian king wearing a malta cross .. i know it's not under his clothes, on top of them .. but just wanted to point it out anyway

.. am talking about the medal on bottom left ..

[570]

Philip, on 10 February 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

king of jordan.jpg

The pic posted by RiseOrDie has the jordanian king wearing a malta cross .. i know it's not under his clothes, on top of them .. but just wanted to point it out anyway

.. am talking about the medal on bottom left ..

CMIIW I heard in a narration that Sufyani is the one who wears the cross

[mehdi soldier]

just to clarify,Bashar al-Assad cannot be the/a "sufyani" because he did not descended from abu sufyan.the Assad family like others in syria and lebanon descended from Banu Assad.this is the same clan that buried the martyrs of Karbala.i stand to be corrected if the sufyani can be a descendant not of abu sufyan.

Edited by mehdi soldier, 01 July 2012 - 08:54 AM.

[Abbas0]

the new syrian council leader is the sufyani he came 2 power this rajab. he will advance into the new syrian formed government and rumors say abdullah of saudi is dead...

[RiseOrDie]

Ikmaaluddin:Shaykh Saduq says: Narrated to us my father andMuhammad bin Hasan - May Allah be pleased with them – they said: Narrated to usMuhammad bin Abil Qasim Majiluwayh from Muhammad bin Ali Kufi: Narrated tous Husain bin Sufyan from Qutaibah Ibne Muhammad from Abdullah bin AbiMansur Bajali that he said

I asked Abi Abdullah (a.s.) about the name of Sufyani. He replied: “Why do you want to know his name? When he conquers the districts of Shaam, Hams, Palestine, Jordan and Qanassireen, you wait for the reappearance.” I asked: “Would he rule for nine months?” He replied: “No, only for eightmonths and not a day more.

^EMPIRE

I doubt the kurdish opposition leader is the Sufyani, the sufyani (figure) will keep his head down, and once all the other parties have exhausted each other, he will rise on their ashes, destroy them and rule the region. At that time it will be a matter of how fast the khorasani can reach kufa

[ateef]

These Evil People are putting up their puppets in the Middle East...And they are having a candidate for sure..

[AlwaysChangingHisUserName]

Abu Hadi, on 08 August 2011 - 08:08 AM, said:

The situation in Syria is much, much different than Bahrain. If you watch any news besides the Israeli propaganda networks (almost all news originating in US / Canada / Europe), you will see that Armed gangs in Syria are being supplied with large amounts of weapons and ammunition, logistics, satellite imagery, etc  and that they are using these to attack Syrian Army and Police. So they have launched a gorilla war against the Syrian government with help from outside powers and it is not the government attacking 'peaceful demonstrators'. There are many videos on youtube and elsewhere with concrete evidence of this. The protestors in Bahrain are unarmed. That is the difference.


Assad as the Sufiyani is pure speculation, nonsense at this point. Not even worth discussing.

Thank you.  This is one thing that angers me about modern Sunnis (that are far different from the somewhat decent Sunnis of the past).  They claim Assad is the dajjal (or some other anti-Islamic character).  Mourning for Imam Hussain is bid'ah, but mourning for Osama is mustahab.