55 replies to this topic

[Mo.]

I don't think Assad is gonna step down just like that. I think Syria's death toll will rise significantly, maybe reaching the hundreds of thousands.

Merely hypothetical, what do you think?

We know Assad has good relations with Iran and Hezbollah. We know his anti-Israeli stance is excellent. We know that. Personally I dont think the Sufyani age is near us.

But since all you guys are saying the Sufyani will replace Assad's regime, what if it turns out to be him in the first place?

[PakIndiaWar]

Only sunnis would accuse him of being a Sufyani. They would even go as far as to compare Osama Bin Laden, Zarqawi, Mullah Omar, Saddam, as Imam Mahdi.

[YaSahebAZaman]

I don't think Assad is gonna step down just like that. I think Syria's death toll will rise significantly, maybe reaching the hundreds of thousands.

Merely hypothetical, what do you think?

We know Assad has good relations with Iran and Hezbollah. We know his anti-Israeli stance is excellent. We know that. Personally I dont think the Sufyani age is near us.

But since all you guys are saying the Sufyani will replace Assad's regime, what if it turns out to be him in the first place?

Dear Mo,

AssalamuAlaikum:

Once a man approached Amirul Momineen Ali abne Abi Talib(AS) during battle of siffeen and asked: 'Why you are fighting against companion of prophet, i.e Maawia'(son of abu sufyan)?

Hazrat Ali replied 'Understand what is haque first, then you will know who to side with'?

Same advice for you brother with great respect and love from me, we are all muslim and inshallah will be united under one banner.

One more point: Assad is not against ahlulbait, although poilitically e might be weakened which can led to collapse of his government paving way of oppressor or criminal taking over.

Regards

[JimJam]

What if I turn out to be the Sufyani. What then?
Nothing

Edited by JimJam, 26 March 2011 - 05:09 AM.

[ZaqiYumani]

We (they) dont turn out, We(they ) are born that way !!!!!!Allah taught me secrets about the "9". And my kung fu made me shine... Rose meto the top, from wher i can harvest or kill the crop!

[ali313]

What If Assad Turns Into The Sufyani?

Let's See!

[Kazim Malik]

An other probable point of view can be:
Sufyani (an Israili) is paving his way to launch its ultimate assault against Muslims.

Just see the bigger canvous starting from Iraqi attack on Iran.. Then attack on Kuwait.. Then 9/11 and attack on Afghanistan directly and Pakistan indirectly... Situation in egypt, Libya , Yemen and now in Syria.

So let us keep our focus to the end of occultation and the Almighty appearance of IMAM ajtfs. Keep our loyalties reserved for our IMAM ajtfs. Enemies of IMAM ajtfs want to uncover the forces of IMAM ajtfs and spoil them. but they are totally unaware of the nature of those forces.

[islamicdaddy]

I don't think Assad is gonna step down just like that. I think Syria's death toll will rise significantly, maybe reaching the hundreds of thousands.

Merely hypothetical, what do you think?

I think his brother Maher is way more scary than Assad. Anyway, have thought about the options and both of them don't exactly seem to fit the hadith.
One thing is sure... Things will get ugly in Syria... I could for sure see the Sufyani rising from that mess.
WA ALLAHU ALIM!

We know Assad has good relations with Iran and Hezbollah. We know his anti-Israeli stance is excellent. We know that. Personally I dont think the Sufyani age is near us.

I, personally, got offended with the Iranian stance on this. If anyone attacks a single soul in Bahrain it's top news in Iran (which it is ofcourse). But try to find an article on cruel despot Assad. For months you could nearly not find anything. I guess last weekend my wife told me she finally read a negative article about him. When we will hear a political commend? Sad sad for the country claiming to be the country of Imam e Zaman!

May Allah make us sincere!

ma'a salama,
Ihsaan

[Abu Hadi]

The situation in Syria is much, much different than Bahrain. If you watch any news besides the Israeli propaganda networks (almost all news originating in US / Canada / Europe), you will see that Armed gangs in Syria are being supplied with large amounts of weapons and ammunition, logistics, satellite imagery, etc and that they are using these to attack Syrian Army and Police. So they have launched a gorilla war against the Syrian government with help from outside powers and it is not the government attacking 'peaceful demonstrators'. There are many videos on youtube and elsewhere with concrete evidence of this. The protestors in Bahrain are unarmed. That is the difference.


Assad as the Sufiyani is pure speculation, nonsense at this point. Not even worth discussing.

Edited by Abu Hadi, 08 August 2011 - 08:09 AM.

[ali313]

The situation in Syria is much, much different than Bahrain. If you watch any news besides the Israeli propaganda networks (almost all news originating in US / Canada / Europe), you will see that Armed gangs in Syria are being supplied with large amounts of weapons and ammunition, logistics, satellite imagery, etc and that they are using these to attack Syrian Army and Police. So they have launched a gorilla war against the Syrian government with help from outside powers and it is not the government attacking 'peaceful demonstrators'. There are many videos on youtube and elsewhere with concrete evidence of this. The protestors in Bahrain are unarmed. That is the difference.


Assad as the Sufiyani is pure speculation, nonsense at this point. Not even worth discussing.

i think there are few people who will certainly prepare ground for sufyani to emerge!

I, personally, got offended with the Iranian stance on this. If anyone attacks a single soul in Bahrain it's top news in Iran (which it is ofcourse). But try to find an article on cruel despot Assad. For months you could nearly not find anything. I guess last weekend my wife told me she finally read a negative article about him. When we will hear a political commend? Sad sad for the country claiming to be the country of Imam e Zaman!

May Allah make us sincere!

ma'a salama,
Ihsaan

agree!

[south-lebanon]

I think his brother Maher is way more scary than Assad. Anyway, have thought about the options and both of them don't exactly seem to fit the hadith.
One thing is sure... Things will get ugly in Syria... I could for sure see the Sufyani rising from that mess.
WA ALLAHU ALIM!



I, personally, got offended with the Iranian stance on this. If anyone attacks a single soul in Bahrain it's top news in Iran (which it is ofcourse). But try to find an article on cruel despot Assad. For months you could nearly not find anything. I guess last weekend my wife told me she finally read a negative article about him. When we will hear a political commend? Sad sad for the country claiming to be the country of Imam e Zaman!

May Allah make us sincere!

ma'a salama,
Ihsaan

Hezbollah would not be where it is today without the support they recieved from Asaad. Once you remove asaad, Hezbollah, Iran is next on the list.

Iran will not acknowledge a project designed to eliminate its allies.

[Kazim Malik]

Hezbollah would not be where it is today without the support they recieved from Asaad. Once you remove asaad, Hezbollah, Iran is next on the list.

Iran will not acknowledge a project designed to eliminate its allies.

Very rightly said brother. you have hit the bulls eye.
This all is a zionist drama. They had a plan to rule the world till 2000. But they have not succeded so far. Main hurdles are Hizbullah, Syria and Iran.
A bigger threat is Nuclear Pakistan.
An other threat is Libya.
So.. out of shear frustration, All the satanic forces have joined together and launched a multi prong attack on Islamic forces. For them we all are Muslims. they did try to divide us between Sunni, Salafi, Deobandi, Shia, Ismaili , Bohra, Qadiani, and name any number. but all there efforts have not been so fruitful as they wanted.
There is an IMAM sua sitting in occultation. Far away from the reach of these tyrants. but fully in control of the situation.
Remember ! It will be my IAMA sua the ultimate sole ruler of this globe... Insha Allah .. Very Soon.

[crazysb235]

WOW this is the most dumb and out of wack idea i have ever seen on this site. Bashar Al Assad is a intrict part of the resistance. Israel and america are following this satanic plan http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm

The zionist attacked lebanon in 2006 trying to wipe out hizbullah once and for all and to use that attack as a blue print to attack iran. But when the zionist got beat up in jabal amal. They had to come up with a new plan and that was to stop the weapons flow to hizbullah. Thats why they are attacking president assad becuase the zionist are trying to destroy the moqawma bridge between lebanon syria and iran

Edited by crazysb235, 09 August 2011 - 07:11 PM.

[MajiC]

But since all you guys are saying the Sufyani will replace Assad's regime, what if it turns out to be him in the first place?

This is very highly unlikely, as there is no indication in hadith whatsoever that this may be the case.

[south-lebanon]

This is very highly unlikely, as there is no indication in hadith whatsoever that this may be the case.

I dont know much about the sufyani, but isnt' he someone that decieves the muslims into thinking he is a true, honest and religious leader but then he turns out to be an imposter?, So if thats the case, why isnt anyone pointing the finger at the Turkish prime minister Erdogan. hasn't he aqurired a massive amount of support in the last few years because of his so-called religious stance and his pro resistance stance against Israel, didn't even Sayed Hassan Nasrallah call him following the Gaza raid "Ya Tayib" (which is a cmpliment in Arabic which obviously sound like his first name). Now Erdogan has shown his true colours by opposing the only government resistance in the Arab world that opposes Israel, while he still supports governments who are more oppresive and more Autocratic than Syria.

Meanwhile see what Turkey is doinig to the Kurds and noone cares about them, Just like how noone cared about how the zionist brutaly put down any Palestinian resistance.

[Kirmani]

Right now one of the main forces that is fighting against Assad's goverment is called the Free Syrian Army. Here is their info:

http://en.wikipedia....ree_Syrian_Army

Now scroll down to the bottom and check out the battalions that are consisted in this army

"As of October 2011, the Free Syrian Army has according to its deputy commander twenty-two battalions. The battalions are spread across the country in its thirteen different governorates. The battalions are:^[1][2][70]

• Khalid bin Walid battalion (Homs city)^[20]
• Hamzah Al-Khateeb battalion (Idlib city)
• Al-Harmoush battalion (Idlib province)^[71]
• Salaheddine Al-Ayoubi battalion (Jisr ash-Shugur)
• Qashoush battalion (Hama city)^[72]
• Aboul Fidaa battalion (Hama province)
• Saad Bin Moaz battalion (Hama province)
• Moawiyah Bin Abi Sufian (Damascus city)
• Abu Obeidah bin Al-Jarrah battalion (Damascus province)
• Houriyeh battalion (Aleppo city)
• Ababeel battalion (Aleppo province)
• Omari battalion (Daraa/Hauran)
• Sultan Pasha Al-Atrash battalion (As-Suwayda)
• Qassam battalion (Jableh)
• Suqur battalion (Latakia)
• Samer Nunu battalion (Baniyas)
• Mishaal Tammo battalion (Qamishli)
• Odai Al-Tayi battalion (Hasakah)
• Omar Ibn al-Khattab battalion (Deir ez-Zor city)^[73]
• Moaz Al-Raqad battalion (Deir ez-Zor province)
• Allahu Akbar battalion (Abu Kamal)
• Ahmad Nayif Al-Sukhni battalion (Ar-Raqqah)"

I forgot the exact hadith references (if someone could help out that would be great) but wasnt sufyani suppose to start an uprising in syria and then take control of syria and would be appear to be a very religious muslim but in reality would be one of the worst of men and that he would "rip open the bellies of women". Look at this report that recently surfaced

Terrorist attacks kill 115 shias in syria
http://www.presstv.i...ail/210481.html

[labbaikkhamenai]

What if I turn out to be the Sufyani. What then?
Nothing

We wouldnt be surprised, your DP looks alot like Sufyani

Regards
AA

Right now one of the main forces that is fighting against Assad's goverment is called the Free Syrian Army. Here is their info:

http://en.wikipedia....ree_Syrian_Army

Now scroll down to the bottom and check out the battalions that are consisted in this army

"As of October 2011, the Free Syrian Army has according to its deputy commander twenty-two battalions. The battalions are spread across the country in its thirteen different governorates. The battalions are:^[1][2][70]

• Khalid bin Walid battalion (Homs city)^[20]
• Hamzah Al-Khateeb battalion (Idlib city)
• Al-Harmoush battalion (Idlib province)^[71]
• Salaheddine Al-Ayoubi battalion (Jisr ash-Shugur)
• Qashoush battalion (Hama city)^[72]
• Aboul Fidaa battalion (Hama province)
• Saad Bin Moaz battalion (Hama province)
• Moawiyah Bin Abi Sufian (Damascus city)
• Abu Obeidah bin Al-Jarrah battalion (Damascus province)
• Houriyeh battalion (Aleppo city)
• Ababeel battalion (Aleppo province)
• Omari battalion (Daraa/Hauran)
• Sultan Pasha Al-Atrash battalion (As-Suwayda)
• Qassam battalion (Jableh)
• Suqur battalion (Latakia)
• Samer Nunu battalion (Baniyas)
• Mishaal Tammo battalion (Qamishli)
• Odai Al-Tayi battalion (Hasakah)
• Omar Ibn al-Khattab battalion (Deir ez-Zor city)^[73]
• Moaz Al-Raqad battalion (Deir ez-Zor province)
• Allahu Akbar battalion (Abu Kamal)
• Ahmad Nayif Al-Sukhni battalion (Ar-Raqqah)"

I forgot the exact hadith references (if someone could help out that would be great) but wasnt sufyani suppose to start an uprising in syria and then take control of syria and would be appear to be a very religious muslim but in reality would be one of the worst of men and that he would "rip open the bellies of women". Look at this report that recently surfaced

Terrorist attacks kill 115 shias in syria
http://www.presstv.i...ail/210481.html

I remember an article I read on BBC long back.. Infact, when he came in power after his father- It said to stay in power, Assad will have to strengthen his ties with the Wahabi Mullahs' residing in Syria and apparently, his father also had support of wahabi mullahs living in Syria. Now with the names of battalion and attack on shia muslim indicates that he has lost Wahabi support within Syria and thats probably because of his support for Iran and Hezbollah...

[MajiC]

I dont know much about the sufyani, but isnt' he someone that decieves the muslims into thinking he is a true, honest and religious leader but then he turns out to be an imposter?, So if thats the case, why isnt anyone pointing the finger at the Turkish prime minister Erdogan. hasn't he aqurired a massive amount of support in the last few years because of his so-called religious stance and his pro resistance stance against Israel, didn't even Sayed Hassan Nasrallah call him following the Gaza raid "Ya Tayib" (which is a cmpliment in Arabic which obviously sound like his first name). Now Erdogan has shown his true colours by opposing the only government resistance in the Arab world that opposes Israel, while he still supports governments who are more oppresive and more Autocratic than Syria.

Meanwhile see what Turkey is doinig to the Kurds and noone cares about them, Just like how noone cared about how the zionist brutaly put down any Palestinian resistance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15q2ag6OnxI

This is too wide a criteria with which to identify the potential candidate for Sufyani. You have suggested 'Erdogan' based on his religious but potenitally misleading stance as a possible ruse. But if we use this criterion alone then many, if not most, Muslim leaders are equally deceptive in their Islamic stance, so why Erdogan? There are a number of characteristics which hadith cites about the Sufyani and I wouldn't say Erdogan is the likely candidate.

Assuming we are not way off in our observations of recent world events and their striking correlation with hadiths, I am hedging my bets that the Sufyani will emerge as an individual within the ranks of the recently (July 2011) formed 'Free Syrian Army'.

[alimohamad40]

the hadeeth says there will be conflict between three flags in sham

the Ashab ( maybe it means the blonde), the abqa ( maybe means patchy face) and the sufyani


all the above characters are bad and the hadeeth says that when they fight each other the good people will be safe but only when sufyani finishes them off he starts on the shia

[John Al-Ameli]

Who ever knows Sheikh al Arour - I believe he is the darn Sufyani

[Abbas0]

Yes were not sure until the month of Rajab

[Antisatanadnaddajjal]

AssadisnotSufyan, thosewho goagainst himare supporters ofSufyan, if thisglobal revolutionhas begun, it meansSufyanioutand he wasan adult andable tosecretlypreparing forsunrise.Thosewhoprepareandcookallthe revolutionsof hispower.In the earlysupporters of theSufyanwill beWahhabis, he will sayI've been fightingfor Islamandafterit is releasedat this timewill come, andImam Mahdi, and gathera lot of supporters, thenSufyansayshe is notthe Imamandnotonlythe Wahhabis, butthe Sunnisbelieve inhimdue to the factthatourImamwillprayasShiite

[Antisatanadnaddajjal]

where is my post?

[Replicant]

where is my post?

Salaam,

As you are a new member, your first few posts have to be approved by a moderator. This is to ensure there are no spammers.

[RiseOrDie]

The sufyani is king abdullah of Jordan. He is from bani hashem through the line of Imam hassan. Imam hassan had marriage relationship with bani ummaya. thats how the arabs created relations back then.

he will unite palestine with jordan and israel will move back to 67 borders to make him look the part, he will then go to syria which should be in chaos after civil war and international intervention, and later iraq. he comes from wadi al yabis, the dry valley of jordan. he is a dajjalic puppet, alcoholic and recognises the independent of Israel***. and he is charismatic and loved by his followers. he has joined the GGC(gulf cooperation council) and will send 70,000 troops to the gulf countries in 2012 as reported.

He is RED as described and he was the one who came out with the term 'shia crescent'

I'm sure he will chill out for now, until the shia and sunni kill each other after fitna, then the shia should win this and he will come to rescue the sunnis. or make it seem that way. he will kill the alawis of syria, and then goes to the shia of iraq whom are also suppressing the sunnis.

both, the shia government of iraq and the alwai shia government of syria are not the true followers of ahlulbayte even though they claim so.

You see many of the shias and sunnis are hypocrites today, possibly 80% of them if i was to be nice. they are liars and cheaters and if you lived there you wouldnt notice, but if you are good and you go there(islamic country) you will notice the hypocrisy and ask yourself if there are any true followers amongst them.

all the hypocrites will clean each other out, in fact the sufyani will only pave the way for our mahdi without even realising it. He will cause the true muslims to unite, and prepare for the mahdi.