Zareen, on 31 January 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:
This are only the first 9 verse of the Surah. You need to follow every single verse in the Quran which includes praying, fasting, guarding yourself from fornification/adultery, no drinking, no eating haram..etc.
[Shakir 23:1] Successful indeed are the believers,
[Shakir 23:2] Who are humble in their prayers,
[Shakir 23:3] And who keep aloof from what is vain,
[Shakir 23:4] And who are givers of poor-rate,
[Shakir 23:5] And who guard their private parts,
[Shakir 23:6] Except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable,
[Shakir 23:7] But whoever seeks to go beyond that, these are they that exceed the limits;
[Shakir 23:8] And those who are keepers of their trusts and their covenant,
[Shakir 23:9] And those who keep a guard on their prayers;
Zareen, you are absolutely correct! One must obey all verses of the Qu'ran, that is the fundamental principle in Islam..
I myself try to follow what you have listed (praying, fasting, guarding yourself from fornification/adultery, no drinking, no eating haram..etc.) to the best I can.
Zareen, on 31 January 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:
BUT before one performs the rest of these things we have discussed, they will all be in vain unless they have good thoughts and intentions in doing so. When I fast for Ramadan for example, my mom tells me that if I loose my temper/become angry/etc.. then my fast has not been completed to its potential and explains to me that one must be pure in speech as well as control before fasting. Having good thoughts is a large function in understanding the rest of what the Qur'an-e-sharif explains, and understanding is the key...
“Verily, a man hath performed prayers, fasts, charity, pilgrimage and all other good works; but he will not be rewarded except by the proportion of his understanding.”
macisaac, on 31 January 2011 - 12:51 PM, said:
Modernity is not a factor. I just want to first understand what you are trying to explain to me. So is your say that:
NO human can interpret the Qu'ran? If this is so, than are you saying to take EVERY word in the Qur'an literally?
Please also read "The Persian Shah" in response to these knowledge-filled ahadith..
The Persian Shah, on 31 January 2011 - 07:04 PM, said:
All those ahadith talk about tafsir bi ra'y. The quote talks about someone erring, whilst sincerely trying to understand..
Two vastly different propositions (very badihi, but I can break 'em down for you if you really want). Hence, the consequences mentioned in the former are not applicable to the latter..
Thanks for your response before I could get time to make one
PS; I have a question, and because I am one of the 82% of Muslims who don't speak Arabic (and no thats not an estimated number lol), please bear with me:
So the difference between hadith and ahadith is that ahadith is plural, correct? Also, would it be gramatically correct if one were to say hadiths (its okay if your laughing














