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[Truthseeker786]

Imam al-Qāsim bin Ibrāhīm bin Isma„īl bin Ibrāhīm bin al-Hasan al-Muthanna bin al-Hasan bin Fātima bint Muhammad (saw) has many books and books from his students why is he less relied upon than Kulayni, Majlisi, Tusi, Mufid e.t.c

Could it be the followers of ahlul bayt dont actually follow ahlul bayt

This was his view in regards to abu bakr and umar

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He replied: Fātima claimed that the Messenger of Allah bequeathed Fadak

To her during his lifetime. Umm Ayman and „Ali were witnesses to that.

116. He was asked about what is narrated concerning the animosity of „Ali and al-„Abbās towards Abu Bakr and then „Umar.

He replied: There is nothing in this. This is not authentic or acceptable here.

The Prophet left with „Ali his mule, horse, armour, turban, and spear.

Documented in his book One Hundred Eighty Issues of Imam al-Qāsim

By

Imam al-Qāsim bin Ibrāhīm ar-Rassi

[macisaac]

al-Qasim b. Ibrahim also insulted and railed against the Imam of his time (Imam `Ali al-Hadi ), perhaps considering himself to be an Imam instead.  Not exactly someone we'd take as an example to follow.

BTW, he was sharply critical of the shaykhain, while his grandson (and you might say successor within Zaydism, Yahya b. al-Husayn) said they were kuffar and deserving of death.  See here: http://individual.ut...Zaydi_Views.pdf

[zeinabiyya]

Truthseeker786, on 12 January 2011 - 04:49 PM, said:

Imam al-Qāsim bin Ibrāhīm bin Isma„īl bin Ibrāhīm bin al-Hasan al-Muthanna bin al-Hasan bin Fātima bint Muhammad (saw) has many books and books from his students why is he less relied upon than Kulayni, Majlisi, Tusi, Mufid e.t.c

Could it be the followers of ahlul bayt dont actually follow ahlul bayt

This was his view in regards to abu bakr and umar



Documented in his book One Hundred Eighty Issues of Imam al-Qāsim

By

Imam al-Qāsim bin Ibrāhīm ar-Rassi

Aren't you the same person who posted "Earliest Teaching of Imams"?

I don't get it, are you here to learn or just to try and make points on how Zaydism is better than Ithna Ashari-ism?

[Truthseeker786]

Im just trying to figure out how would I access the teachings of the Imams, Imam Zayd e.t.c didnt curse the shaikain whilst Kulaini, Majlisi e.t.c claim the latter imams did. Anyway brother is there any daleelto your claims he opposed Ali Ridha .

BTW even if you gave me shia books or quotations i would trust them more than a orientalist whose only objective is to create discord.

[Abdaal]

macisaac, on 12 January 2011 - 05:02 PM, said:

al-Qasim b. Ibrahim also insulted and railed against the Imam of his time (Imam `Ali al-Hadi ), perhaps considering himself to be an Imam instead.  Not exactly someone we'd take as an example to follow.

BTW, he was sharply critical of the shaykhain, while his grandson (and you might say successor within Zaydism, Yahya b. al-Husayn) said they were kuffar and deserving of death.  See here: http://individual.ut...Zaydi_Views.pdf

I've asked a Zaydi about this above. Here is what he said.

Q I've read that Imam al-Hadi Yahya b. al-Husayn did takfir against Abu Bakr and Umar . Is this true ?
--THIS IS NOT TRUE. OUT OF ALL OF THE WORKS THAT I READ BY IMAM AL-HADI, ALAYHI AS SALAAM, I HAVE NEVER HEARD HIM CURSE OR MAKE TAKFIR OF ABU BAKR OR UMAR.
THERE IS A BOOK ATTRIBUTED TO IMAM AL-HADI, ALAYHI AS SALAAM, CALLED “TAHTBIT AL-IMAMA” ). HOWEVER SOME OF THE SCHOLARS SAY THAT IT WAS FABRICATED BY AN ISMA’ILI QARMATIAN AND IMAM AL-HADI DIDN’T WRITE IT. ANYWAYS, IN THIS BOOK, THERE ARE SOME UNFLATTERING THINGS ABOUT THE FIRST TWO CALIPHS. MAYBE THIS ACADEMIC BELIEVED THAT AL-HADI WROTE IT. EVEN SO, I READ THE BOOK AND IT DOESN’T EXPLICITLY MAKE TAKFIR OF THEM.

Truthseeker786, on 13 January 2011 - 07:01 PM, said:

Im just trying to figure out how would I access the teachings of the Imams, Imam Zayd e.t.c didnt curse the shaikain whilst Kulaini, Majlisi e.t.c claim the latter imams did. Anyway brother is there any daleelto your claims he opposed Ali Ridha .

BTW even if you gave me shia books or quotations i would trust them more than a orientalist whose only objective is to create discord.

Macisaac is correct about this. They have no defense for him in this area. In the statement he states the Rafidi imam (i.e 10th Imam) took khumms.