55 replies to this topic

[Shabbar-E-Shabbir]

Allowed or not?

[Ali_Hussain]

Of course it's allowed, but its a questionable look if you ask me

[Haydar Husayn]

It's probably allowed, but as with some of these other things like earrings and tattoos, people should ask themselves why they want to do it. If it's out of imitation of unbelievers, then it isn't  allowed anymore. Is having tattoos, earrings, and slit eyebrows really the right look for a follower of the ahlul bayt ?

[Ali_Hussain]

 Haider Husayn, on 20 July 2010 - 03:01 PM, said:

It's probably allowed, but as with some of these other things like earrings and tattoos, people should ask themselves why they want to do it. If it's out of imitation of unbelievers, then it isn't  allowed anymore. Is having tattoos, earrings, and slit eyebrows really the right look for a follower of the ahlul bayt ?

Add a few silver teeth to that and you look like a pirate

[Shabbar-E-Shabbir]

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and slit eyebrows really the right look for a follower of the ahlul bayt ?

Yeah thats the only thing holding me back, idk..

[Maula Dha Mallang]

bro just cos you CAN, that doesnt mean u SHOULD. eg its halal for me to marry an old woman. that doesnt mean i should

[Shabbar-E-Shabbir]

i've made up my mind, im not going to get them, thanks guyzz

[MumtazAli2010]

 Haider Husayn, on 20 July 2010 - 03:01 PM, said:

It's probably allowed, but as with some of these other things like earrings and tattoos, people should ask themselves why they want to do it. If it's out of imitation of unbelievers, then it isn't  allowed anymore. Is having tattoos, earrings, and slit eyebrows really the right look for a follower of the ahlul bayt ?

Er helo tatoos, earrings and slit eybrows are all haram (for men and tatoos and brows for women as well)
, apart from looking totally unattractive, it is against islam

[Haydar Husayn]

 MumtazAli2010, on 21 July 2010 - 06:16 PM, said:

Er helo tatoos, earrings and slit eybrows are all haram (for men and tatoos and brows for women as well)
, apart from looking totally unattractive, it is against islam

Amongst the many threads on this:

Earrings: http://www.shiachat....g-haram-formen/

Tattoos: http://www.shiachat....oo/page__st__25

I'm do not support these things, but if you are going to say it's against Islam, you better have some proof.

Edited by Haider Husayn, 21 July 2010 - 06:32 PM.

[Gypsy]

What does slits in eyebrow mean?

I am moving this to the brother forum.

[shiasoldier786]

 Zareen, on 21 July 2010 - 08:28 PM, said:

What does slits in eyebrow mean?

I am moving this to the brother forum.

http://img.skysports...nnon_629622.jpg

I hate that look.

[Gypsy]

Thanks ShiaSoldier, I didn't know that this is done for cosmetic purposes.

It's ugly. I thought people were born with it.Sorry! Don't mean to offend anyone.

[MumtazAli2010]

 Haider Husayn, on 21 July 2010 - 06:31 PM, said:

Amongst the many threads on this:

Earrings: http://www.shiachat....g-haram-formen/

Tattoos: http://www.shiachat....oo/page__st__25

I'm do not support these things, but if you are going to say it's against Islam, you better have some proof.

I don't need to have proof becuase it is obvious to all that it is haram.  earrings is not a masculine thing neither is shaping or slitting the eyebrows so dont dictate to me that I need proof. its almost like you got so offended.  an earring wearer yourself are you?

[Haydar Husayn]

 MumtazAli2010, on 23 July 2010 - 04:52 PM, said:

I don't need to have proof becuase it is obvious to all that it is haram.  earrings is not a masculine thing neither is shaping or slitting the eyebrows so dont dictate to me that I need proof. its almost like you got so offended.  an earring wearer yourself are you?

I said i didn't approve of these things, so why would I wear earrings? All I'm saying is we need to be careful about labelling things haram if we can't prove it. Our instinct isn't really good enough. Many scholars who have looked at these matters have come to the conclusion that tattoos and earrings are not haram(just check the links I posted). However, anything done out of imitation of unbelievers or women would become haram. And since that is the reason most people would do it in the West, it is probably going to be haram for them in most cases.

[~RuQaYaH~]

 shiasoldier786, on 21 July 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

I hate that look.

Me too, it's so try-hard.

[MumtazAli2010]

 Haider Husayn, on 23 July 2010 - 05:15 PM, said:

I said i didn't approve of these things, so why would I wear earrings? All I'm saying is we need to be careful about labelling things haram if we can't prove it. Our instinct isn't really good enough. Many scholars who have looked at these matters have come to the conclusion that tattoos and earrings are not haram(just check the links I posted). However, anything done out of imitation of unbelievers or women would become haram. And since that is the reason most people would do it in the West, it is probably going to be haram for them in most cases.

actually yes tatoos are haram since they block your wudhu, just like nail polish so whatever.

[doobybrother]

 MumtazAli2010, on 24 July 2010 - 08:00 AM, said:

actually yes tatoos are haram since they block your wudhu, just like nail polish so whatever.

Any marja who has declared tatoos haram?

[AlayhisSalaam]

 Day Of Recompense, on 21 July 2010 - 04:05 PM, said:

i've made up my mind, im not going to get them, thanks guyzz

Alhamdulilah

We shouldn't try to be like the ignorant people... what sort of example would we be setting?

These people goto clubs and get drunk and have sex with strangers... I don't want to wear baggy pants like them or cut my eyebrows or get piercings and tattooes... it's not cool, it's not nice, there's nothing good to come from it.

Just be yourself, don't try to blend in with others, don't try to style yourself, just be natural and clean, that's the best for everyone.

And you will have the most confidence this way, when you are content and happy with yourself without modification, then you will have the highest self-esteem and people will find you very friendly and nice to be around.

Otherwise, you would be a poser! lol

Just ask yourself seriously, what is the point of all of this fashion and nonsense? You going to cut your eyebrows and wear baggy pants when you're 80 years old and say "Yo sup dog?" lol

I prefer the love and respect of Muhammad(sawws) and his Ahlul Bayt(a) and the true believers and Allah before the love/respect of misguided people.  We are meant to be a beacon of light in the darkness for people, we are known by our kind deeds, polite behaviour, and soft speech... that is Islam bro, that is how people come to Islam...

Hopefully someone benefits from reading this.

[Haydar Husayn]

 MumtazAli2010, on 24 July 2010 - 08:00 AM, said:

actually yes tatoos are haram since they block your wudhu, just like nail polish so whatever.

If you actually bothered to read up on this, you would realise that this isn't true.

[MumtazAli2010]

 Haider Husayn, on 24 July 2010 - 09:35 AM, said:

If you actually bothered to read up on this, you would realise that this isn't true.

WHATEVER. YOU SHOULD DO SOME READING UP YOURSELF BECUASE YOU CLEARLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

[Haydar Husayn]

 MumtazAli2010, on 24 July 2010 - 05:16 PM, said:

WHATEVER. YOU SHOULD DO SOME READING UP YOURSELF BECUASE YOU CLEARLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm just going by what the marjas are saying, since I haven't researched this myself. Are you saying they don't know what they are talking about?

[qumar]

 MumtazAli2010, on 24 July 2010 - 08:00 AM, said:

actually yes tatoos are haram since they block your wudhu, just like nail polish so whatever.

tatoos do NOT block waaduu, ur not colouring ur skin with cryons so its not like nail polish, infact the regular colour of tatoos is given out by the blood sitting the third layer of skin the innermost, then they inject dyes to that layer also for creativity. so doesn't block the water from reaching outermost layer of skin!

its considerd a sin to say haram when its not, i remember the sura that talks about bano israel in al3umran

[MumtazAli2010]

 qumar, on 25 July 2010 - 03:50 AM, said:

tatoos do NOT block waaduu, ur not colouring ur skin with cryons so its not like nail polish, infact the regular colour of tatoos is given out by the blood sitting the third layer of skin the innermost, then they inject dyes to that layer also for creativity. so doesn't block the water from reaching outermost layer of skin!

its considerd a sin to say haram when its not, i remember the sura that talks about bano israel in al3umran

maybe tatoos do not block your wudhu, but they are considered haram becuase they mutliate your skin and are painful.  this is what the westerners like to do and it seems that some muslims like to do this.  tatoos are unsightly and i do not think it is permissible to have ink drawn all over your body.

[Ali_Hussain]

 MumtazAli2010, on 25 July 2010 - 07:29 AM, said:

maybe tatoos do not block your wudhu, but they are considered haram becuase they mutliate your skin and are painful.  this is what the westerners like to do and it seems that some muslims like to do this.  tatoos are unsightly and i do not think it is permissible to have ink drawn all over your body.

Brother, I doubt very much if many muslims like or approve of tatoos, but I think the point people are trying to make is that we are not allowed to pass judgements on what is halal or haram based on our personal opinion. For you to insist on tatoos being haram the way you are,would need to be backed up by more than personal opinion. Aside from tatoos and ear rings, I hate men who die their hair stupid colours,but that doesn't mean I am allowed to go round saying that because Allah didn't creat men with green or pink hair,its haram.

[Qa'im]

 shiasoldier786, on 21 July 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

http://img.skysports...nnon_629622.jpg

I hate that look.

Looks stupid. I don't think anyone can take you seriously with those.