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[bi_ithnillaah]

ShahHussain, on 15 October 2010 - 10:15 AM, said:

@ sister bi_ithnillaah, sister, i agree with you for the most part, but you also shouldn't assume that nothing a bit "unethical" (for want of a better word) goes on in religious circles, I'm not sure if this story was authentic http://iwpr.net/repo...a-establishment it was the one about Sayed as-Sistani's aid who done mut'a with loads of different girls, and filmed it on his phone, then the videos got out, and it was a big scandal. Just because that is halal, in that case, it is also a sign of being a bit perverted, to film it and look at it, and who knows what else. That's my opinion anyway

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying nothing unethical ever happens in religious circles, unethical things are often justified using religion by many different people of different religious affiliations; my problem was his generalization of all hawdha female students not being virgins and on top of that not being trustworthy and so he wouldn't want to marry one for that reason. As a female who is planning inshaa Allaah, bi-ithnillaah, to go overseas and study in a hawdha soon, I found it very insulting for someone to make that sort of generalization about me and people I know.

[Shay]

How interesting. Even if these women DO engage in mutah, so what? Aren't guys here always going on about how halal it is? Now that the shoe's on the other foot...

[Ali_Hussain]

bi_ithnillaah, on 17 October 2010 - 07:28 PM, said:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying nothing unethical ever happens in religious circles, unethical things are often justified using religion by many different people of different religious affiliations; my problem was his generalization of all hawdha female students not being virgins and on top of that not being trustworthy and so he wouldn't want to marry one for that reason. As a female who is planning inshaa Allaah, bi-ithnillaah, to go overseas and study in a hawdha soon, I found it very insulting for someone to make that sort of generalization about me and people I know.

I agree, generalisation get us nowhere, we don't like it when the salafis say all shi'a worship graves, zil jinnah, etc, so we shouldn't generalise amongst ourselves.
Good luck with your endeavours, may Allah reward you insha'Allah

Shay, on 17 October 2010 - 11:18 PM, said:

How interesting. Even if these women DO engage in mutah, so what? Aren't guys here always going on about how halal it is? Now that the shoe's on the other foot...

You know what, this is a bit controversial,  but I agree, it is pure hypocracy to go around talking about how halal it is,but only for men. I personally wouldn't have a problem marrying a girl who had done a mut'a. Of course, if she is some serial mut'ist(?) that is different story, as I'm sure a sister, would not really want to marry a man who does a mut'a every week.
But it is not a good idea to look down on people just because they have done some thing halal, even recommended by some narrations

Edited by ShahHussain, 18 October 2010 - 08:18 AM.

[bi_ithnillaah]

shermin, on 16 October 2010 - 12:24 AM, said:

Shaytan playing tricks with you. Giving you reasons to conceal an important matter.




Pathetic! if a girl can not be honest about her hair and fear he might reject her. How is she going to reveal about her chastity?



Sooo islamicc  !



An-Nisa
The Hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire: no helper wilt thou find for them.― (145)

You, just as ali the lion, are making assumptions about a matter you know nothing about. I actually wouldn't be surprised if you were ali the lion on another username just trying to give him support. I will repeat, there is hardly any information on that topic and you are cannot judge a woman's intentions based on a few minuet details, and shouldn't be judging her at all actually.

The kiss on the cheek comment was regarding Christian girls, not Muslim, and considering how they do not consider their religion to be holding them from kissing and the likes, then that's actually a lot to say about university age girls in America.

ShahHussain, on 18 October 2010 - 08:18 AM, said:

I agree, generalisation get us nowhere, we don't like it when the salafis say all shi'a worship graves, zil jinnah, etc, so we shouldn't generalise amongst ourselves.
Good luck with your endeavours, may Allah reward you insha'Allah

ameen, waiyyaka.

Edited by bi_ithnillaah, 18 October 2010 - 11:33 AM.

[shermin]

bi_ithnillaah, on 18 October 2010 - 11:30 AM, said:

You, just as ali the lion, are making assumptions about a matter you know nothing about. I actually wouldn't be surprised if you were ali the lion on another username just trying to give him support. I will repeat, there is hardly any information on that topic and you are cannot judge a woman's intentions based on a few minuet details, and shouldn't be judging her at all actually.The kiss on the cheek comment was regarding Christian girls, not Muslim, and considering how they do not consider their religion to be holding them from kissing and the likes, then that's actually a lot to say about university age girls in America. (wasalam)ameen, waiyyaka.

"the pot calling the kettle black"

[Marbles]

bi_ithnillaah, on 18 October 2010 - 11:30 AM, said:

You, just as ali the lion, are making assumptions about a matter you know nothing about.

Sister - "shermin" is "ali the lion" from another account. He has multiple accounts which he sometimes uses to reply to his own posts lol. "siti" is another of his accounts. Check the poetry forums.

The best thing to do is to ignore this individual.

Edited by Marbles, 19 October 2010 - 09:49 AM.

[Ali_Hussain]

Marbles, on 19 October 2010 - 09:47 AM, said:

Sister - "shermin" is "ali the lion" from another account. He has multiple accounts which he sometimes uses to reply to his own posts lol. "siti" is another of his accounts. Check the poetry forums.

The best thing to do is to ignore this individual.

lol, what is the point in doing such a thing? this is by and large a forum where most likely most people don't know each other, especially as the individual has used a name where people wouldn't know him, so what is the point in being in agreement with yourself? very strange

[Shay]

ShahHussain, on 19 October 2010 - 10:02 AM, said:

lol, what is the point in doing such a thing? this is by and large a forum where most likely most people don't know each other, especially as the individual has used a name where people wouldn't know him, so what is the point in being in agreement with yourself? very strange

Well you'd hope he agrees with himself...

[Marbles]

ShahHussain, on 19 October 2010 - 10:02 AM, said:

lol, what is the point in doing such a thing? this is by and large a forum where most likely most people don't know each other, especially as the individual has used a name where people wouldn't know him, so what is the point in being in agreement with yourself? very strange

That is strange indeed. I think there is more to it than play. One needs self-assurances that are otherwise not available. One needs a sense of satisfaction that is otherwise lacking in real life even if it comes at the cost of self-conceit.

[AhmadKazim]

leb_cool, on 05 June 2010 - 01:47 PM, said:

Salam

I would like to know if its haram for a girl/women to ride a bicycle in the opinion of sayed sistani ? haram, makrooh or what.
thanks for ur time


salam

Can i just say that as a man if i see a sister with hijab riding a bike in the streets, i would think bad of her. hijab is not supposed to be seen of women in that position in public. that does not protray modesty, i wouldnt let my daugthers do that

[bi_ithnillaah]

Marbles, on 19 October 2010 - 09:47 AM, said:

Sister - "shermin" is "ali the lion" from another account. He has multiple accounts which he sometimes uses to reply to his own posts lol. "siti" is another of his accounts. Check the poetry forums.

The best thing to do is to ignore this individual.

man, I'm good ;]
haha
And thanks for the verification.

[ali the lion]

Thanks to Dear Sister Shermin and all those who supported me, no use to advice stubborn person. Let him/her to his own fate.


@
bi_ithnillaah

I know pretty well when to make generalization. You cannot change my opinion on Pakis and Hawzas. Good luck to you for your hawza studies.

[Ali_Hussain]

ali the lion, on 21 October 2010 - 01:17 AM, said:

Thanks to Dear Sister Shermin and all those who supported me, no use to advice stubborn person. Let him/her to his own fate.


@
bi_ithnillaah

I know pretty well when to make generalization. You cannot change my opinion on Pakis and Hawzas. Good luck to you for your hawza studies.

Maybe you could just be a bit more open minded, there are good and bad people everywhere. I kind of know what you mean about generalisations, sometimes, you just meet so many idiots who come from one country, often you are also from that country, and you just loose hope, but still, it most likely just bad luck,  no matter what country it is, there are always good people

[Marbles]

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Maybe you could just be a bit more open minded,

Bro you will soon find out that you are talking to a wall. This individual is incurable.

If a person is to have deep seated hatred toward a particular race, nationality, religion or ethnic group due to their experiences of the "bad ones" from among that community then everyone would start hating each other.

And such a person [Edited] does not deserve any respect at least from me.

Edited by inshaAllah, 23 October 2010 - 02:08 PM.
Please avoid offensive comments

[shermin]

Marbles, on 21 October 2010 - 03:41 AM, said:

And such a person [Edited] does not deserve any respect at least from me.

LOL    ali the lion would be the last person to need respect from [Edited] him.

Edited by inshaAllah, 23 October 2010 - 02:07 PM.
Please avoid racist comments

[Muhammed Ali]

Someone asked me about this today so did some searching and found this:

Ayatullah Khamenei:


Q: Is it permissible for women, despite their need for proper covering, to ride bicycles and motor bikes? If so, please list the conditions.

A: A women must avoid circumstances and actions which require her to be self-conscious of her appearance in front of ghairul-mahram. Riding a bicycle or motor bike in a public place, by a pedestrian walkway, or in view of others leads to corruption (in light of fulfilling the above mentioned criteria), and thus, is not permissible.

http://www.islam-pur...questions.htm#- Permissibility of women riding bicycles and motor bikes

Maybe it is possible to invent a way to implement good hijab with a bicycle?

Before anyone starts condemning that fatwa, I must remind people that Islam is quite strict on similar issues:

24:31  .... and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known; and turn to Allah all of you, O believers! so that you may be successful.

If stamping feet so that anklets should not be heard is haraam then what can we say about things like the so called burquini?

Edited by Muhammed Ali, 06 November 2010 - 07:12 PM.

[roah_fatima]

Yes you can. It's a mode of transport/type of exercise and leisure activity.

I bought a new bike last week and cycling is great and beneficial in so many ways.

Edited by roah_fatima, 03 December 2010 - 11:53 AM.

[kadhim]

Americans asked: "Can I get to the moon? And how?"

Muslims ask: "Is the sky going to fall if girls ride bikes?"

                

This in itself explains almost everything about the respective levels of general mental development in each culture to date in a very succinct manner.

Frankly, I have to ask sometimes whether some of you guys are some sort of alien species fresh off the spaceship from Planet Retard.

How pathetic that these sorts of questions even need asking.

Edited by kadhim, 03 December 2010 - 12:13 PM.

[AliSaleh]

Haha it would be funny if ali the lion got into a fihgt with himnself his other username and ended up beeting himself up ha ha

[Marbles]

kadhim, on 03 December 2010 - 12:11 PM, said:

Americans asked: "Can I get to the moon? And how?"

Muslims ask: "Is the sky going to fall if girls ride bikes?"

                

This in itself explains almost everything about the respective levels of general mental development in each culture to date in a very succinct manner.

Frankly, I have to ask sometimes whether some of you guys are some sort of alien species fresh off the spaceship from Planet Retard.

How pathetic that these sorts of questions even need asking.

A nation which is limping behind in almost every department of life develops a collective insecurity which is then mirrored in questions/issues like this one.

[Shay]

kadhim, on 03 December 2010 - 12:11 PM, said:

Frankly, I have to ask sometimes whether some of you guys are some sort of alien species fresh off the spaceship from Planet Retard.

ROFL this is the best line i've ever read on this site!

[kadhim]

AliSaleh, on 03 December 2010 - 12:28 PM, said:

Haha it would be funny if ali the lion got into a fihgt with himnself his other username and ended up beeting himself up ha ha

Resist ... easy ...joke ...playing on "beating himself" ... "he probably does a lot of that" ... etc ... resist ... higher road ... a'oudu billahi min ash-shaytaanir rajeem ...

[Ali_Hussain]

kadhim, on 03 December 2010 - 01:30 PM, said:

Resist ... easy ...joke ...playing on "beating himself" ... "he probably does a lot of that" ... etc ... resist ... higher road ... a'oudu billahi min ash-shaytaanir rajeem ...

lol, you know what, for some time now, i have (as I know many others have) been questioning the sanity of AliSaleh, even if he turns out to be prepubescent, it wouldn't explain much  

[inshaAllah]

kadhim, on 03 December 2010 - 12:11 PM, said:

Americans asked: "Can I get to the moon? And how?"

Muslims ask: "Is the sky going to fall if girls ride bikes?"

lol We Pakistanis share a similar example quite often:


Arabs used to test Imam Ali, "Do you know the name of my father ?"

And Imam Ali would reply, "Do you want me to name the well known or your actual father ?"

And if it was a western scholar, he would have asked Imam Ali, "How do i conquer the Sun?"
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Joke aside, I don't see anything wrong in knowing the answer to this question. I do however have issues when us Muslims only/mostly focus on these kinda questions.


Salams

[kadhim]

ShahHussain, on 03 December 2010 - 01:36 PM, said:

lol, you know what, for some time now, i have (as I know many others have) been questioning the sanity of AliSaleh, even if he turns out to be prepubescent, it wouldn't explain much  

Wasn't really directed at AliSaleh, but more the other dude.