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#1 Arman

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 04:03 AM

Check out the following site made with html5... html5 video, etc.. you need the latest firefox to make this work.

http://openvideo.dailymotion.com

Youtube also has a testpage in html5... :)

Edited by Arman, 17 July 2009 - 04:03 AM.


#2 Nocturne

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 04:39 AM

I think the video codec is already dropped from HTML 5

HTML 5 drops open source video codec
http://www.zdnetasia...62055739,00.htm

Are they loosing it???

http://www.shiachat....=...t&p=1928174

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#3 Arman

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 05:01 AM

View PostNocturne, on Jul 17 2009, 11:39 AM, said:

I think the video codec is already dropped from HTML 5

HTML 5 drops open source video codec
http://www.zdnetasia...62055739,00.htm

Are they loosing it???

http://www.shiachat....=...t&p=1928174

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Its not completely dropped. From mailing lists I've seen they're still talking and Apple is considering it now.

This is what the people from OGG theora had to say about it:

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[12:48] <ghindo> This is probably a silly question, but H.264 can never make it into the HTML5 recommendation, right? I seem to recall the W3C having a policy against proprietary codecs
[12:50] <xiphmont_> basically correct, yes.
[12:50] == sirlemonhead [n=bduncan2@86-45-8-64-dynamic.b-ras2.prp.dublin.eircom.net] has left #theora []
[12:51] <gmaxwell> ghindo: There have been some people outside of the whatwg discussions who have mistakenly misunderstood the issue as being H.264 vs Theora. Thats never been the case.
[12:51] <xiphmont_> derf: do you consider it a better idea to drop the frame that busted the budget, or to drop the next frame after?
[12:51] <ghindo> gmaxwell: How would you frame the issue?
[12:51] <gmaxwell> ghindo: The question has always ever been Baseline (which would be theora) or no baseline. In both cases vendors would be free to ship whatever they wanted.
[12:53] <gmaxwell> I don't think anyone has imagined that apple would stop shipping their own preferred formats. But it sure would be good for the internet if they'd also ship some freely available formats too.

Edited by Arman, 17 July 2009 - 05:02 AM.


#4 Nocturne

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 05:04 AM

Why are they worried about Apple considering it or not? OR Apple is part of HTML 5?

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#5 Arman

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 05:22 AM

View PostNocturne, on Jul 17 2009, 12:04 PM, said:

Why are they worried about Apple considering it or not? OR Apple is part of HTML 5?
Yeah they are partners in development I guess. Apparently w3c was too busy with watching porn on the internet and therefore didn't have time to do their job (bringing the next html version), so then a few companies, notable Google, Mozilla, Opera and Apple came together and actually brought something great... Google and Apple want H264 and Mozilla and Opera want OGG Theora. Google can live with ogg in time, but apple is being a pain in the butt. ogg theora can freely be distributed and its open source... for h264 they're going to have to pay for licenses. I guess the main problem for Apple is that none of their software supports it, they're going to have to add to Ipod, etc. Google on the other hand mentions that the volume the quality/bit rate is not good enough for the volume of youtube. However, since its open source it is believed it can advance fast...

Edited by Arman, 17 July 2009 - 05:22 AM.




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