toledo, on 20 April 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:
That's one reason you and I can not agree. Because, the God I believe in, is knowing and everywhere. No matter, if I do my niyah, standing or sitting, does not matter, unlike the God you believe in.
The difference that is between us isn't due to the matter of our different personal opinions or our own ways of understanding the religion. It's a matter of you rejecting the clear words of god, such as, not following the rules of prayers he sent down for us from the heavens to follow strictly and accordingly. Read the verses again that I posted in which you did not even bother to comment on earlier. The meaning of the ayas are very clear, that is, the only intermediary that the Muslims can use with Allah(swt) for prayers
is the holy Kaaba and nothing else. No where does Allah(swt) say that the holy kabaa can be interchanged with the Imam so no doubt your method of prayer is considered Bidaa and contradicting to the true Sunnah of the noble prophet(pbuh). Moreover, these same Ayas also say that the standing position is mandatory to be maintained when offering the obligatory prayers
. and therefore, maintaining the sitting position when offering these prayers is also considered Bidaa.
Surely the god I believe in, unlike yours has informed his messenger to warn the people who follow him after his departure not to innovate in the religion he brings to them so that they do not deviate but rather remain on the Sirat Al-Mustaqeem(straight path). In the case of the Ismaili-Agha Khani religion, they have gone far astray from the Sirat Al-Mistaqeem to be even considered Muslims predominantly.
That being said Your Niyaa will not count if you continue to hold on to your Ismaili beliefs and at the same time, reject the words of God by not reflecting on these verses due to ignorance. Once you know the Haq, in which I have showed you in matters of Salat using these verses below , and yet reject it due to arrogance or pride then no doubt you will die a death similar to the death of the jahilya(ignorance), as Allah(swt) clearly stated in Surat Al-Baqarah:
إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا سَوَاءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ أَأَنذَرْتَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تُنذِرْهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ ﴿٦﴾ خَتَمَ اللَّـهُ عَلَىٰ قُلُوبِهِمْ وَعَلَىٰ سَمْعِهِمْ ۖ وَعَلَىٰ أَبْصَارِهِمْ غِشَاوَةٌ ۖ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ
"Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment."
Finally, one last thing to say, that there is no compulsion in religion. You can choose what ever you want that you feel convinces you. Allah(swt) at the end is mercifully upon the Mustadh'afeen that were not able to see the haq in the dunya. However his mercy does not go against his justice, and therefore, who ever dies and rejects the Haq due to their ignorance after it was shown to them during their life will surely be punished by him in Jahanam.
Mujtaba_Iraqi, on 13 April 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:
Moreover, I will show you now , using verses from the Noble Quran, how your method of prayer that is performed to day by the Nizari Laymen contradicts the method that Allah(swt) outlined for us in the Quran and taught by the prophet(pbuh).
Facing the Qibla is obligatory when performing prayers:
"so from whencesoever thou startest forth, turn thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; and wheresoever ye are, turn your face thither: That there be no ground of dispute against you among the people. Except those of them that a bent on wickedness; so fear them not, but fear Me; and that I may complete my favours on you, and ye May (consent to) be guided" (2:150)
The meaning of the verse is very clear. In other words, Allah(swt) clearly stated that the only link between him and the earth where he accepts the prayers(salat) of the believers is through the holy kaba. Nothing else can be used as a link to Allah in order to offer prayers to, not the Imam or anything else.
The Standing position is required when performing prayers:
“And when you are among them and lead them in prayer, let a group of them stand [in prayer] with you and let them carry their arms. And when they have prostrated, let them be [in position] behind you and have the other group come forward which has not [yet] prayed and let them pray with you, taking precaution and carrying their arms. Those who disbelieve wish that you would neglect your weapons and your baggage so they could come down upon you in one [single] attack. But there is no blame upon you, if you are troubled by rain or are ill, for putting down your arms, but take precaution. Indeed, Allah has prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating punishment." (4:102)
After reading this verse, it is clear to conclude that the standing position must be maintained when performing prayers. That being said, the Ismaili-Nizari method of prayer, where one is sitting contradicts the method that Allah(swt) clearly outlined for us and therefore not only considered to be a non-Islamic form of prayer but rather an innovation(bidaa) to the original and correct form that was established by the prophet.
May Allah(swt) guide you to follow the Haq
Edited by Mujtaba_Iraqi, 22 April 2013 - 12:38 AM.