[ name='Wesam' date='Feb 13 2009, 03:44 AM' post='1833112'] (All that is in red and bold is from Wesam, Error message was shown for having many quotes).
You'd like to think you hit hard, but all you did was make yourself look more arrogant and foolish. I can't for one minute believe your anything but a pretender. For someone that claims to be a researcher/scientist and PHD, you sure lack basic writing skills. You're no where near as witty as you think you are either.
Lol, who is talking! Neither it's a writing competition nor I am writing a research paper that I will go over many times to make sure it is all well! As long it conveys what I have intended, I am OK with it.....It doesn't matter to my what you do or don not believe. Prof. Dr. Perfect Writer, I am fully aware of your potential. I have reiterated many times that I am a student of science and servant of Ahl-e-BAit
and nothing more.....
You're supposed responses in this and many other threads have been nothing more than your lame attempts at proving how good a google researcher you are. I do believe you 100% that you are nothing more than a google scientist, a google researcher. All you do is reply to people with cut and paste slabs and slabs and cut and paste pictures to try and pass yourself off as some super-wit hoping people won't see through your mask.
If all you have written were correct, still no one could prove me wrong, isn't it? Why don't you use goggle like me and bring some credible proofs of your absurd claims???? I would repeat one more time, what you call slab and slab of cut and past, go over it and point out if any thing is incorrect? Whenever you or Brostraightpath brought any point, I answered it with proper references, e.g., Post 4
. Let me ask,what is your source of info? Let me say nothing more then mere Brain Itching
I'd much rather spend my time with someone without any qualifications that has reasonable understanding skills and reasoning skills and takes the time to think and reply rather than google, cut and paste.
I can see that from your replies!
Congratulations, no one is taking the award from you on that one, that's for sure. But do tell me, how did you respond to quires? I'm yet to master the ability to speak to bundles of paper. I suppose quires like talking to wannabe doctors. It's hilarious how you try and take everything I wrote to you and deflect it back.
Oh what a big favor, I owe you one
Again, if you have taken some time looking at most of my earlier posts, you would know, how I respond! For the rest, it takes lot of patience, hard work, reading, asking questions, doing experiments, writing papers, giving talks and attending lectures form renowned scientists, just to name a few! Newton's Third Law: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction
You're insecure and I'll prove it to you too. I didn't reply because I largely forgot about the thread and your nuances with endless google drops and unlike you, some of us have real jobs to attend to and real families but in your well observed insecurities you couldn't handle being left alone to post away at your leisure and seem like a super power.
I am black belt, I am trained to secure myself
You need to buy some books and learn how to debate! Yeah, right! You first jumped into this discussion at 7th Dec
and then just made lousy comment on 12th Dec
and then came back yesterday, looked at the cartoons, got pissed off and tried to prove me wrong again, but without proofs as usual!
You need to make observations with open eye before you come up with a conclusions! I have joined this forum in Nov 2007 and t date, I have less then 1800 posts, many people with real jobs have joined after me and way ahead of me in number of posts! If some one has lots of posts doesn't mean he/she doesn't has a real job or families. Some people work in the IT area and are logged on all day, I some times work with the Analytical instruments controlled by computer and so I access internet as well. What's the big, eh? FYI, I have tons of real life friend both in Academia and out side and many times I have to make excuses not to be with them as if I have to finish some important work....
So you went out of your way to post cartoons in mockery of those who have made very serious choices regarding their families health. People who have been in situations which you're not even close to experiencing yet but claim fame to know exactly what to do, despite admitting to not being married, not having children and most importantly NOT being an MD doctor but a boy who likes to play with test tubes. You delude yourself and others into thinking you're important but when people don't acknowledge your importance by replying you post insults to try and bring the attention back to yourself.
Again, If you had payed attention to my advice to do thorough home work before accusations, you may save your self from some embarrassment! Your CO-THINKER, Brostraightpath started it here
and then I replied here
, the later one you saw here and went nuts!
Alhamdo Lillah, I am very confident and don't need E-Support to boost my morale! Brother its you who feel so upset as you couldn't back up your outlandish beliefs about vaccines and are venting here.... :
Don't buy it? Well for starters, the posted insults above. Apparently I'm a moron according to Mr Scientific because I didn't keep injecting my child with poisons after he had severe reactions not once, not twice but three times the third of which had him ill for a month! Then what did your fragile ego do? After no reply to your insults, you posted another insult to gather some more attention.
It's worthless! You are not a moron for not injecting vaccine to your child but for making baseless propaganda against one of the best weapon against diseases. I am sorry that your child suffered (may Allah (SWT) gives him complete shifa), but it doesn't mean that vaccine is poison or people around the world are all stupid for not believing you! Again I would say read my previous posts, I have always mentioned, no drug is 100% safe, Forget about the drugs, any thing will kill you if you don't take precautions. Drinking excess water can kill you!
, how about that? Just before your post yesterday, I had this
posted! What do you think was the purpose of that post?
It has been less then 3 months since you are at SC and making claims about me
Seek help from any other experienced SCer and ask if I am jolly or not, or whether I have ever made any one unhappy before! It is unfortunately since Brostarightpath's first reply in this thread, I had to push the buttons to "shut the sources of idiocy". Even though I didn't believe I owed apology to any one, I did so anyways with my posts that I thought would make some one feel uncomfortable.
Fish didn't bite and so you carried on with your drivel and praise seeking taking an encore bow before your supporters.
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I hear ya, I hear ya. "But that's only two posts above" he says.
Well how about this one HERE
Awww poor fake Dr, no one is having dialogue with you. Not arrogant at all. Nice humble friendly helpful doctor. Not insecure at all.
I hear ya, I hear ya, "But that's only three posts" he says.
How about this one HERE
Awww poor Dr Asad, we forgot about you.
Lol, if you had spent more time you might have fund some more! Need some help?
Seriously, who's insecure again? I didn't call myself a specialist in the field. Most definitely though I have gone through an experience which gives me more scientific leeway than you who is happy to pretend he's an MD doctor who knows it all.
You, as you have no way of proving your claims and you are beating about the bush! We say in Urdu"khisyani billi khamba nochai"......We have MD doctors (I know one for sure) her at SC, make a separate thread and ask any MD doctor around the globe to prove me wrong with scientific finding not their metal bubbles! BTW you are wrong that MD doctor would know more then a PhD in vaccines.... Don't believe me, use Dr. Google and type MD to see what MD's go through to become a medical doctors and then type PhD to see what it takes to do PhD.....
If you prove me wrong, I will openly admit of my shortcomings, will correct myself and shall ever be obliged to thee
You're the one with the title "DR" and happy to push off your information as if it is scientifically valid just because you have the PHD initials which anyone with half an ounce of intelligence knows means jack all in the grand scheme of things. But aren't you too busy doing all your lab research? Strange you find the time for such frivolous debates when you're out there proving your science to the world.
Let me help you, PhD
. I am a normal human first then a scientist, I always find time for myself, whether it is for cooking, reading, watching TV, hang out with friends or posting at forums.....
I know enough to read between the lines and stay away from pseudo's like you. I've seen your type come and go so quickly it's not funny. Just because others don't acknowledge you, you crawl up into a ball and start deflecting. But we've seen above who cry's like a child when they're not spoken to and who resorts to petty call outs with insults. But your last sentence takes the cake. I feel heart burning? No thanks, my digestion is fine.
Really, believe me, every one knows what you know, just for the sake of it, read the response above this post . Yeah, you have seen every thing This will surely help you
No thanks been to Uni and don't ever want to go back. Yes you are deprived of intellectual thought.
I and all the readers know that from your very first response in this thread. OK, thanks for letting this top secret out
Posting slabs and slabs is not engaging your mind. It's finding a short cut and copy/pasting and then proposing that they are your own ideas.
If I take some material from any website, it is properly cited there in... I once again challenge you to find any post that I have made without due recognition of the source? If some ask me a question that is not my area of research and If I happen to find the most trust able answer (you need to know how to do that) there is nothing wrong in cutting and pasting as long as source is cited. I believe most of the news and research article posted this way here.....In nay case, I copy and paste proper information, directly related to the topic, give proper references, on the other hand, you make nonsense claims without any proofs
You think by posting slabs and slabs you will win a competition. Geewiz, someone should of told you that this is a forum and what you're doing is called post whoring, not engaging or discussing.
There is no competition here, it is all about sharing, learning and teaching! You need to be told to do proper home work before going after some one that you have no idea of and to bring proofs of any claims made....
You just want to post like mad and hope the other people shut up and leave which might make you look like you know it all. Well, it worked.........in your little mind at least.
It is clear to all the reader who knows how much! I at least know what I know and what not and striving towards perfection, unlike you who don't ever wish to go to university!
All that knowledge and education and you fail to comprehend a metaphor, a parable, a similitude, rhetorical trope. What a waste of money. Go google that!
You are super genius, I upgraded you yesterday and you didn't believe me
Yes, captain google to the rescue!
Just for people like you.....
You challenged me? Lmao. What do you think this is? A UFC cage? A ninjitsu studio? Or perhaps it's a WWE ring? I read your replies and switched off. You don't offer an ounce of yourself. You copy, paste, hit enter and wait for the accolades and then when they don't come, you insult. Fantastic science there.
I am so sorry I make you switch off! You should start using glasses to see what I quote and what's coming from me. And any ways, I am better off quoting from correct sources with reference then wrongly presenting important info. Any ways my challenge still holds, ring proof to prove me wrong or admit your lack of knowledge..
I never claimed all the scientists of the world are stupid nor that I am super smart. But I do claim to have enough intelligence to stop vaccinating my child when I see abnormal physiological responses. I am scientific enough to understand that you don't keep doing the same thing and hope for a different result, not especially when the initial result was disastrous and borderline deadly. That's not enough science for you though.
Aren't you the one claiming vaccine to be based on bogus science? I don't know which country you live in, but in most countries there are proper protocols followed before and after vaccination to avoid side effects. If unwanted is observed, it is thouroughly investigated to avoid any further loss. If you had rea my response just after Brostraightpath first post, you would have learned a whole lot!
Rest assured, like you I have read many books, sat seminars, been in lecture halls and spoken to professionals in the field and come to my own conclusion. This is after having a pre-conceived idea of acceptance of vaccines. I can safely say I've sat on both sides of the fence and on the fence and now chosen which side to sit on. You on the other hand are still a baby freshy.... still in school, unmarried and no children. You're not an MD nor an Immunologist. You're work and research is not in the field nor in the medical field yet you post here like your the savior to the forums. You have the audacity to call yourself DR and post away offering medical advice despite not being qualified. Perhaps you need to be reminded of the legal implications. You've only experienced one side of the fence and it was only because you gargled down everything your teachers said without any serious objective thought or analysis. Alhamdullillah I am not like you and possibly saved my sons life by not being a stubborn git and continuing in ignorance and arrogance as if I knew everything.
Reading books at home doesn't make a scientist! No drugs are all safe (I am repeating again, I hope you get this time) and vaccines are not exceptions. If a side reaction happen once in a million, it doesn't mean vaccine is bad rather possibly that child is different (that's a general term and contains much deeper meaning, don't hurt your brain for it) then others and it needed to be looked! I am not baby "freshy" (31 years) and doing my 2nd PhD and already had two M.S before that. Yeah I am not an MD but MD are not expert of immunology either, as I said many time before, if you had done proper home work one me, you would know that my 2nd PhD is in Pharmaceutical Sciences and I directly deals with immunology and have taken advanced courses. Whenever I dispensed a "medical advice" it is with advice to check with your physician as he is the most suitable person (Again read my posts carefully before accusing). It is rather you who need to be told not to make false propaganda and spread lies against well established sciences. FYI no one becomes a professors in US university without PhD in the subject and they don't fed us their own created scientific stories, they read most most recent papers and that's how books are written as well.... As I said before, death and Shifa is from Allah and I will make informed choices. If I know, I would die for sure going on path A and also know that I have good survival chances on path B, but there could be some unexpected, I would go for path B (Learned some thing?)
As mentioned, I know enough to avoid going down a disasterous track after experiencing first hand what the results were. You offer nothing but bad spelling, bad grammar, bad sentence structure, arrogant answers, rudeness and high horsedness. Yeh well, congratulations. Obviously since you're not an MD (Damn.... you fooled me) you don't get govt handouts for ensuring high surgery vaccination rates. Perhaps your bosses should look into your extra-curricular activities here on the forums and what a hot shot Doctor you really are. Perhaps they'll promote you.
Thanks, and read my first response and also look at your own spelling mistake, again need some help here? As I said before if you have had one some home work on me, you wouldn't have to write all that...... Alhamdo Lillah, my boss know what I am capable of and that's why I am in a great university, unlike you who hates it.....
How do I reply to such a childish and insanely obscure request? President Obama? He's a Dr just like you? Leaders of the European Union? Lmao You're kidding me right? If you had any..... just an ounce....... maybe a smidgen of credibility, you just lost it all! Who on earth would propose such a preposterous suggestion? Only someone with a mind that simply does not engage would think that Obama or European Unions have the vested interest of the people at heart. But that's besides the point. What I want to know is what on earth happened up there in that feeble and fragile mind of yours to make you ask me to write a letter to them? Perhaps it's all that make believe you watch..... you know, your love for WWE, Ghost Hunter and UFO files says way more than you'd care to think, but you couldn't help putting it all in your profile could you? Yes, I can see what a brilliant little thinker you are. Lmao... UFO's, WWE, Ghost Hunter..... gimme a break! Hang on.... I forgot Nijitsu hahahaha. Anyone that believes in Ninja's has got to be missing screws.
Oh boy, you once again proved your intellect! President Obama and others lead the country and can issue executive orders to investigate of any serious malpractices. As you claim to call vaccines a bogus and flawed science I wonder what other way would be to stop this bad sciences? If I watch TV and movies and If I have written them in my profile, it shown I am open book, not like you who shows up once in a while, make nonsense claims and try to make other people look fool or at your own level!
You summed it up so well. PLease refrain then from offering your zero experience to anyone. You're not married, have no children are not an MD yet you continue to market yourself as the be all and end all when it comes to health sciences. Spare me. So with your final words above, anyone with half an iota of intellect will see right through you. You can have this thread, post away your insults and keep receiving the accolades but I won't be replying to your drivel.
This article is not a medical advice, rather a discussion of what vaccines are as I mentioned in the opening of my first post in this thread. I feel sorry for your embarrassment, you should investigate before accusing some one! It is open for all to discuss but with common sense and responsibility. it is OK to not know, but it is not OK to make idiotic claims and stick to it with out nay proof! Again, FYI I work with medicines and do research on them, who would know medicine then the one who work with it everyday?
If anything, I understand that the moderators already have a disclaimer in here but I'd be extra careful of this impostor posting away at leisure. He's not an MD but pretends to answer MD questions in here and other threads.
People know me here long before you joined!
[name='Jubei' date='Feb 13 2009, 01:27 PM' post='1833418']
I just had to butt in. No amount of intuition, common sense or worldly knowledge will ever compensate for lack of scientific understanding when it comes to immunology. I hope you know how insulting it is for professionals to hear every Tom, Richard and Harry telling them their opinion on drugs they have no clue about.
Thank you bro, I wish this guy and other like him take some time to think and read and get rid of ignorance!
Sometimes I throw RSC journals at them... but it doesn't work I wonder what Dr Asad does. On a side note, I just listened to a long talk about Tamiflu. Lovely drug.
Man, I first see what is the mental and then intellectual level of the person speaking, then accordingly I bring proofs. The RSC, ACS, Wileyinterscience, Sciencedirect, etc nothing will work for stubborn. I recall some one saying that it is easy to wake up some one really sleeping, but if some is pretending, you can't wake him up.....Tamiflu another medical marvel, if you wish I can send you some papers on that, just gimme buzz.
Edited by Dr_Asad_77, 13 February 2009 - 08:42 PM.