alimohamad40, on Aug 19 2008, 02:50 AM, said:
Can you inform us in which case does polygyny become obligatory???
I've mentioned this several
times already, but not only do you not understand English, you don't even read what I write. I've said:
The man can resort to his existing wife to satisfy his needs.
IF that wife isn't able to do so, then it does become obligatory on him to marry another woman. But if that existing wife CAN satisfy his needs, then it is NOT obligatory on him to marry again. He still can marry another woman if he wants to, but that is completely his choice, and not an obligation.
I have repeatedly stated that if marriage prevents a person from falling into sin, then it becomes obligatory, irrespective of whether the man is married or not.
So stop being stupid, and read carefully next time. Or ask shiamuslima to explain what I've written to you sentence by sentence, several times if necessary. Because you're completely incapable of understanding basic English.
Isn’t it when he is falling into sin due to desiring another?
Wrong. That's what you foolishly wish to believe, but that is not when Islam makes it obligatory.
Isn’t it in this case where he has to choose between doing a haraam action or a mustahab hallal action so automatically the hallal becomes compulsory as an alternative for haraam ???
But getting married again isn't the ONLY Halal option for this man. Imam Ali tells those men to return to their existing
wives, not marry another.
Are you saying imam Ali has double standards that he marries 25 wives but he advices others to stick to only one ???
No. You think
I'm saying that because you have the thinking ability of a goat. And a sub-average intelligent one at that.
Where did I suggest that Imam Ali is telling them to stick to only one? If you cannot understand my posts because I've written them in English, then ask shiamuslima to show me where I suggested so.
I'm saying that Imam Ali did NOT tell those people that they must marry again
. If, like you foolishly claim, it becomes obligatory on married men to marry again if they look sinfully at other women, then Imam Ali would have told those men to marry again as soon as possible (not to that same woman who was passing by, obviously, but to any other female). But he does NOT say so. He simply tells them to return to their own wives.
Off course he will tell them to go back to their wives in this situation what did you expect him to tell them???
Well, if I was as foolish as your fine self, I would have expected him to tell them to get married again as soon as possible. Sadly for you, he doesn't.
Did he tell them second marriage is not mustahab??? NO
Did he tell them that second marriage IS musthab? NO
He just told them that doing the fornication of the eyes is haraam and be content with what is hallal for you … and he used the word "Ahl" which is plural and could be one wife or multiple wives any way.
Yes, they could have had multiple wives, but did Imam Ali tell them to marry again? NO. So if a married man looks sinfully at other women, does it become obligatory on him to marry again? NO. Get this through your thick skull. Or ask shiamuslima to explain it to you slowly.
That walking woman could be a married woman and she is a walking person and they are more than one person looking at her,,, what do you expect him to tell them?? go all of you chase her and marry her ?? of course he will do Nahi an almunkar, “ forbiding evil”
The point, which you are unable to comprehend, is that he does NOT pass your stupid suggestion that, just because they looked sinfully at another woman, they should get married again.
I am talking about another issue you have totally misunderstood me and you complain about my statements...
No, I completely
understand what you are saying. You are just making up your own fatwas and passing them off as Islamic laws out of sheer ignorance and stubbornness.
i am talking where the man is in constant sin and is commiting the fornication of the organs, in that case the natural and logical solution for him is polygyny so it becomes obligatory on him...
But that is not the ONLY "natural and logical solution". He can also lower his gaze and be intimate with his wife more frequently. And this
is the option that Imam Ali recommended, not polygyny. So, no, polygyny does NOT become obligatory on him.
Edited by fyst, 19 August 2008 - 05:30 AM.