Al-Afza, on 01 August 2009 - 09:35 AM, said:
According to Biblical-New Age author Peter D. Goodgame, Dr. Hawass is searching for the mummy of Osiris[Aser]...
It is a strong possibility that Dr. Hawass is really searching for Nabih Idris (a.s.), without formally acknowledging it or maybe even being aware of it...
Below are comparisons of the personages of Nabih Idris[Akhnook?] and Aser[Osiris] from a paragraphical excerpt of Peter D. Goodgame's website and an article excerpt from
wikipedia :
Peter D. Goodgame's Red Moon Rising.com --
The Giza Necropolis was designed and built as a great memorial dedicated to the god Osiris, the legendary king of Egypt, who brought religion, writing, a system of laws, and other innovations necessary for civilization to

the Egyptians, and afterwards to the world. The mythology surrounding the life and death of Osiris and his resurrection on "the other side" as the Lord of the Underworld was covered in
Part Two. Osiris became the divine figure at the heart of Egyptian religion and his cult was memorialized by the Giza Necropolis that was built in the Fourth Dynasty (c.2600-2500 BC). Several generations later the theology of the Osiris cult was codified by the Pyramid Texts that were inscribed on the walls of a complex built at Saqqara a few miles from Giza during the Fifth and Sixth Dynasties (C.2350-2150 BC). With these late manifestations of the Osiris cult it becomes likely that the origins of the cult, and the actual life of the historical Osiris, can be found not more than a few hundred years before the construction of the Great Pyramid, rather than originating thousands of years earlier as many Egyptologists assume.
Wikipedia.com --
Idris(A) is credited with learning many useful skills or inventing things which humans now use such as writing,
mathematics,
astronomy, etc. According to Islamic tradition, his time was one when many people had forgotten God, and the world was thus punished with a
drought. However, Enoch prayed for them, and it began to rain, ending the drought. In Islamic tradition, according to the book
The Prophet of God Enoch: Nabiyullah Idris, Idris(A) and
Enoch are the same person. He is mentioned in the Qur'an as was preferred by God that he raised Idris(A) to Him (In the Enoch book of the bible preserved by the Ethiopian church, we also read that he was raised up by God). Enoch is said to have come back from heaven in the area of Gizan (current day
Giza in Egypt) where he taught people writing, and he described how he saw in his journey the sources of water (i.e. the Snow caps of mountains, especially in the polar areas) and the reasons behind astronomy, he described different skies where he saw imprisoned devils and Jinns tormented by the angels, some of whom are awaiting punishment, and some awaiting release. He is a prominent prophet between
Adam and
Noah for Muslims.
One non-traditional explanation for the building of the pyramids is that they were built in reverence to him, since it is the area where he was said to have ascended back to heaven.
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In conclusion, a couple of points to reflect upon is that Osiris[Aser] has always had an anthropomorphic[human] representation and never a hybrid[human-bestial] representation. Secondly, Nabih Idris' traditional ascension into the next world and subsequent return to our terrestrial one and then his final ascension into the heavens, strongly resembles the placement of Osiris[Aser] as a deity of the afterlife...One who transcended mortality to rise up again.
Furthermore, Aser[Osiris] was depicted wearing the ceremonial Atef crown and holding a crook and flail. The crook has been the perennial symbol of a shepherd, while the flail has been the symbol of agriculture. It has been suggested by some Egyptologists that the symbols of the crook and flail belonged to an alleged precursor of Aser[Osiris] named Andjety--a minor deity. This has been disputed, however. Another disputed subject matter, is whether Aser[Osiris] was the
oldest of all the ancient Egyptian mythic deities. Lastly, if Nabih Idris(a.s.) was a foreigner to ancient Egypt, it very unlikely that he would have eventually been deified as Aser[Osiris]. He had to have been a native Egyptian and not an early Ubaid dynasty Mesopotamian Iraqi.
Osiris[Aser] was regarded as an actual king of ancient Egypt who later became deified; he was credited with inventing the Hieratic script circa 4250 B.C. upon papyrus scrolls. Pictographs or iconographs were the earliest form of written communication. Both, Proto-Indus Valley Mehrgarh[Indo-Pak] culture and Proto-Sumerian Ubaid dynasty Iraq, employed picture-writing as the earliest form of written communication. However, the world's first
cursive writing was said to have been invented in ancient Egypt in the form of Hieratic[ancient Musri] upon papyrus scrolls circa 4250 B.C.; the monotheist messenger Idris/Osiris was most probably the person who invented cursive writing
period--in the form of Hieratic.
In my research, Nabih Idris/Aser[Osiris] was most likely the very first Nomarch[Sepat] of pre-monarchial ancient Egypt; in archaic Hieratic, the word
Sepat was applied to both a Nome[Governorate] and its Nomarch[Governor-General]. Nabih Idris/Aser[Osiris] was most probably the founding father of the Age of the Nomarchies[4200-3700 B.C.] of ancient Egypt. He established a unified nomarchy(government) in Egypt, which following his passing, immediately split into the three
nomarchies of Upper, Middle, and Lower Egypt. He was most crucial in transitioning Egypt from its shamanic culture of its Feudal Age[5000-4200 B.C.] to the civilization that Egypt became. Thus, Nabih Idris/Aser's timeline had to have been circa 4300-4200 B.C. When Egypt gradually started to transition from shamanism to early mythology circa 4500-4300 B.C., Nabih Idris/Aser[Osiris] appeared upon the scene to steer Egypt to monotheism and civilization. Being born circa 4310 B.C. in Upper Egypt, Nabih Idris/Aser[Osiris] intoduced the concept of the omnipotent Neter[God] to ancient Egypt.
As an amendment to this posting of mine, some highly significant revisions to some of its contents in light of subsequent research...
Ancient Egypt's Age of the Fiefdoms was from 5000-4000 B.C., spanning an entire millennium.
Ancient Egypt's Age of the Nomarchies(Governorates) was from 4000-3700 B.C. and not from 4200-3700 B.C.; lasting 300 years instead of 500 years.
The Nomarchs being governor-generals of their respective regions of Egypt, were elected by the other governors. The Three Nomarchies of Egypt evolved into the Three Kingdoms between 3750-3700 B.C.; the Nomarchs that had evolved into rulers were elected. Once elected, all the subsequent kings of the Three Kingdoms of Egypt were appointed; as were all the kings of both Upper & Lower Egypt of the subsequent Age of the Two Kingdoms. Hereditary rulership was the product of pharaonic or dynastic Egypt, commencing with the son & successor of Egypt's very first pharaoh Mena Narmer.
The Three Kingdoms were named the Nekheny or Hawk Kingdom; Bjt or Bee Kingdom; Uat or Reed Kingdom, in honor of their patron deities of Nekhen, the Hawk god; Bjt, the Bee god; and Uat, the anthropomorphic Reed god. The rulers of these three kingdoms of pre-dynastic, pre-pharaonic Egypt were formally entitled the Hawk kings; the Bee kings; and the Reed kings.
The Age of the Three Kingdoms of ancient Egypt was from 3700-3400 B.C.
The inexplicable, abrupt change of the appellations of the Three Kingdoms from their patron deities to being identified as Nesut or Upper Egypt and Biti or Lower Egypt was thus:
The Hawk king of Upper Egypt, named King Scorpion, captured the Bjt or Bee Kingdom of Middle Egypt. It was most likely King Scorpion who was the Quranic Malik of Misr[Egypt] of Nabih Yusuf's time. In being converted to monotheism by his Tjaty or Grand Vizier[Prime Minister], who was the Quranic Aziz, Nabih Yusuf; the Egyptian name of Nabih Yusuf was Usir[Osiris in Greek]. His legendary Egyptian spouse, the Biblical Asenath, was Iset[Isis in Greek].
Hence, from further investigative research and study, the previous position of Nabih Idris being the deified Osiris was INCORRECT.
There are no details about Nabih Idris in the Holy Qur'an which indicates that he was ever actually from ancient Egypt. Also, the timeline of Nabih Idris/Enoch was before Nabih Nuh/Noah and the Great Flood. Egypt was nowhere near being any kind of a civilization at the time of the Great Flood, as Egypt was still in its hunter-gatherer & fishermen stage. Consequently, Nabih Idris/Enoch could not possibly have been the mythogenic Usir[Osiris].
I would have to conclude that because in ancient Egyptian folklore USIR[Osiris] was always held to be an actual king of pre-dynastic or pre-pharaonic Egypt, he would had to have been none other than NABIH YUSUF, son of Nabih Yaqub bin Ishaq bin Ibrahim.
There has been a comparison by some scholars of the ancient Egyptian folk tale of Usir[Osiris] being slain by his brother Set[Seth] to the story of Qabil[Cain] and Habil[Abel], but in closer examination, it appears to be that there is also a metaphoric connection with the narrative of the 10 brothers of Yusuf[Joseph] who had planned to slay him, and left him for dead in the well. With the passage of time, the narrative gave way to mythic proportions.
This would place Nabih Yusuf's timeline during the reign of the former Hawk king, Scorpion (r. 3407-3346 B.C.). Consequently, King Scorpion had actually conquered not just Middle Egypt's Bjt or Bee Kingdom, but Lower Egypt's Uat or Reed Kingdom as well. King Scorpion then abolished the Nekhen, Bjt, and Uat cults of pre-dynastic, pre-pharaonic ancient Egypt. That would explain why these three appellations inexplicably disappeared from ancient Egyptian history. King Scorpion appointed Usir or Yusuf his own sovereignty of Biti or Lower Egypt as co-regent.
Nabih Yusuf and his father Sheikh Yaqub Israil and his entire family & progeny settled in Biti or Lower Egypt in the Nile Delta; this family clan which totaled 60 people included the eleven brothers of Nabih Yusuf and their respective spouses and children. The ten older brothers of Nabih Yusuf had Arabian wives of the Hejaz and Midian, while Nabih Yusuf's younger brother Yamin wedded a native Egyptian girl like Nabih Yusuf. The next generation of the Children of Yaqub Israil mostly wedded native Egyptians while some wedded their cousins within the Israili family clan; the latter practice of the Bani Israil faded out gradually and by the 4th Dynasty of Pharaonic Egypt, virtually the entire Bani Israil tribe was of predominantly Egyptian bloodline.
The family dynasty of Israili rulers of Lower Egypt reigned all throughout ancient Egypt's Age of the Two Kingdoms from 3400-3200 B.C.; there is a verse in the Holy Qur'an, in which Nabih Musa reminds the Bani Israil when they were once kings of their land in Egypt.
The Israili line of kings of pre-dynastic, pre-pharaonic ancient Egypt was brought to an end by King Mena the Nar-Mer[Angry Catfish] of Nesut or Upper Egypt. However, the Children of Israil of Biti or Lower Egypt were neither enslaved nor expelled from Egypt by any means, just forced to assimilate with the new unified Egypt. That is why in the Holy Qur'an, Almighty Al-Lah describes the Bani Israil as not being foreigners to Egypt but among Egypt's very own people.
The single deity of pre-dynastic, pre-pharaonic ancient Egypt was called Neter or God. However, from circa 3250 B.C., half of pre-dynastic Egypt had reverted back to polytheism about a century after the passing of Nabih Yusuf/Usir[Osiris] and King Scorpion. Nesut or Upper Egypt had established the cults of Khnum, Ptah, and Haru[Horus] between 3250-3200 B.C., while Biti or Lower Egypt eventually became henotheist, continuing with the worship of the intangible single god Neter.
After King Mena the Narmer's unification of Upper and Lower Egypt, which made him Egypt's very first Pharaoh or Great Host, the subsequent very first official dynasty of ancient Egypt also saw the meteoric establishment of the brand new cult of Usir[Osiris], which deified Nabih Yusuf/Usir and his queen, Lady Iset[Isis], which had originated from Biti or Lower Egypt.
Usir[Osiris] is described as being the deity of the underworld, along with the deity of rejuvenation of Egypt's vegetation and the Nile flood plains. He has also been described in ancient Egyptian texts as the
Lord of Love and
"He Who is Permanently Benign and Youthful" ... Not to mention that Usir[Osiris] has always been depicted holding a crook and flail; the crook being the symbol of the shepherd, while the flail was the symbol of agriculture. His was the very first image in ancient Egypt that was depicted with the crook and flail which were his personal symbols; these two symbols were later adopted by all the subsequent pharaohs after Aha (son & successor of Mena Narmer), starting from the 1st Dynasty on down.
A copy-paste from Wikipedia:
Plutarch and others have noted that the sacrifices to Osiris were "gloomy, solemn, and mournful..." (Isis and Osiris, 69) and that the great mystery festival, celebrated in two phases, began at Abydos on the 17th of Athyr (November 13) commemorating the death of the god, which is also the same day that grain was planted in the ground. "The death of the grain and the death of the god were one and the same: the cereal was identified with the god who came from heaven; he was the bread by which man lives. The resurrection of the god symbolized the rebirth of the grain." (Larson 17) The annual festival involved the construction of "Osiris Beds" formed in shape of Osiris, filled with soil and sown with seed. The germinating seed symbolized Osiris rising from the dead. An almost pristine example was found in the tomb of Tutankhamun by Howard Carter.
The seven year abundance of grain (before the seven years of drought & famine) and the consequent strategy of its storage, clearly link Nabih Yusuf/Joseph with the mythogenic figure of Usir/Osiris of ancient Egypt. Nabih Yusuf's almost miraculous plan of grain storage which saved Egypt through the years of drought and famine made him a virtual demi-god to the pre-dynastic Egyptians.
Six months after he ascended to the throne of Upper Egypt, King Scorpion had a recurring nightmare which none of the Hawk or Nekheny priests could interpret. When King Scorpion's cupbearer informed him of the imprisoned Nabih Yusuf and his abilities to accurately interpret dreams, Nabih Yusuf was consulted. Pleased with his interpretation, King Scorpion obtained the release of Nabih Yusuf and absolved him of his charges by the Tjaty and his consort and the aristocratic women who bore false witness with them against Nabih Yusuf.
Nabih Yusuf immediately became King Scorpion's trusted advisor, supplanting the Tjaty or Grand Vizier, the Aziz who had bought Nabih Yusuf as a slave. The deposed Tjaty was demoted to a lesser position and escaped punitive action by Scorpion at Nabih Yusuf's behest. Nabih Yusuf had publicly forgiven the former Tjaty, his consort, and the conspiring noblewomen. Consequently, none were punished. The former Tjaty or Aziz eventually died from failing health caused by the humiliation of his court trial and scandal involving his consort. The consort eventually repented her mistake and converted to monolatry, as had King Scorpion under the influence of Nabih Yusuf. She never wedded Nabih Yusuf, who ended up marrying King Scorpion's sister Lady Aset or Iset.
King Scorpion had become a monolatrist under the mentoring of Nabih Yusuf and very quickly abolished the dangerous Nekheny priesthood of Upper Egypt early on during his reign. This was when after they failed to not only interpret his recurring nightmare, but mocked Nabih Yusuf's prediction which immediately came true at the start of the following year. King Scorpion declared Upper Egypt a monolatrist kingdom and vigourously promoted this faith of the single intangible god Neter.
King Scorpion had followed his new Aziz or Tjaty, Nabih Yusuf's counsel, and had ordered the stocking of grain throughout the Upper Kingdom of Egypt. From 3406 B.C., the heavy rains caused the Nile to overflow, causing an overabundance of vegetation. The grain fields were overly fertile and grain was subsequently stored in enormous quantities in elevated silos specially designed by Nabih Yusuf himself. After seven years of overabundance in the vegetation and grain fields, came the seven years of severe drought and famine as prophesized by Nabih Yusuf. This occurred not only all throughout Egypt, but the Sinai Peninsula, Libya, Arabia, Palestine, Jordan, Syria, and Iraq; excluding Anatolia[Turkey] and Persia.
The other two neighboring kingdoms of Egypt, the Middle and Lower, were totally unprepared for the severe drought and famine and were consequently greatly weakened. Two years after the drought and famine swept the lands, Nabih Yusuf counseled King Scorpion to annex the neighboring two kingdoms of Middle and Lower Egypt. Those kingdoms were notoriously idolatrous and despotic toward their subjects, consequently this would be the perfect opportunity to seize their lands and end their cruel rulerships. King Scorpion did just as he was counseled by Nabih Yusuf and in lightening military campaigns, captured the Bjt or Bee Kingdom of Middle Egypt and the Uat or Reed Kingdom of Lower Egypt. He further immediately abolished the cults of the Bee and Reed gods.
King Scorpion then gave the region of Lower Egypt to Nabih Yusuf to rule over as co-regent of Egypt. King Scorpion ruled over Upper & Middle Egypt, while Nabih Yusuf ruled over Lower Egypt. When Nabih Yusuf had first arrived in Egypt as a slaveboy from Madyan or Midian, NW Arabia where his originally Syrian ancestral tribe was settled, his slave merchant owner was dissatisfied with the price he was offered for him in both Lower and Middle Egypt. So he consequently traveled to Upper Egypt where he held out in hope of the best price he could get for the stunningly handsome youth, Nabih Yusuf bin Yaqub. In Upper Egypt, this slave merchant struck gold when none other than the Tjaty or Aziz of the Upper Kingdom bought him as a gift for his consort [allegedly named Zuleykha].
King Scorpion retained the old white crown of Upper Egypt while also incorporating the blue crown of the former Middle Kingdom as a ceremonial war crown. Nabih Yusuf retained the red crown of Lower Egypt as it had no idolatrous ornament to it while it was a stylized representation of the papyrus reed. To Nabih Yusuf, this symbolized literacy and knowledge.
After the passing of both Nabih Yusuf and King Scorpion, Lower Egypt was ruled by the appointed members of the House of Yaqub Israil, who remained monotheist. The rest of the inhabitants of Lower Egypt, who had become monolatrists, remained so throughout the period of the Israili Dynasty of the Lower Kingdom during pre-dynastic Egypt. Meanwhile, a century after the passing of King Scorpion, Upper Egypt [which included Middle Egypt], had deviated from monolatry to henotheism and eventually polytheism. Between 3250-3200 B.C., three new cultic deities had arisen named Khnum, Ptah, and Haru[Horus].
Circa 3200 B.C. saw a war of attrition initiated by a polytheist ruler of Upper Egypt named Mena Narmer[Everlasting Angry Catfish]. This war was to annex Lower Egypt and end the rulership of it by the Israili Dynasty. It was not an all out war of blood and guts because Mena Narmer did not want to wage such a costly campaign. The cost in blood and wealth would be too great, so this war of attrition was really a series of skirmishes and forced sanctions that lasted two years. The Bani Israil dynasty conceded to a treaty in which they would recognize the overlordship of Mena Narmer and step down as rulers of Lower Egypt. This treaty had its conditions which the Bani Israil placed upon Mena Narmer which he willingly met.
The result of the unification of Egypt under a single ruler caused socio-religious changes in Lower Egypt. The minority Bani Israil tribe with its twelve subtribes gradually became monolatrists, eventually becoming henotheists by the time of the 4th Pharaonic Dynasty of Egypt. As for the majority inhabitants of Lower Egypt, they became the henotheist monophysite cult of Usir[Osiris] of the deified Nabih Yusuf. By the time of the 4th Pharaonic Dynasty, the non-Israili inhabitants of Lower Egypt had also adopted the worship of Khnum, Ptah, and Haru[Horus] from the influence of Upper and Middle Egypt; this was in addition to the well established cult of Usir[Osiris] or Nabih Yusuf/Joseph.
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Wa Huwa Ala Kulli Shayin Qadir...
Edited by Al-Afza, 16 August 2010 - 03:53 AM.