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#51 Sukayna866

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 06:48 PM

(salam)

*sighs* La Ilaha Ila Allah

So much for being safe on Shiachat. But I still think it is being exaggerated, like Bro. DingDong said it is not right to be suspicious without proof. May Allah protect us from these people.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 08:32 PM

View PostMurteza, on Feb 7 2008, 12:11 AM, said:

the EASIEST way is :



STAY AWAY FROM YOUR COMPUTER!!!



:Hijabi:

that is very logic.
and how do you get here? :Hijabi:

View Postmmm, on Feb 7 2008, 08:39 AM, said:

OMG today someone messaged me and said she was from shiachat. I became happy and then she asked me how tall I was. I said 6 ft 5 and then she was like wow so it would be hard to kiss you. And i was like :o how disgraceful and unislamic. Then i downloaded a trojan virus and asked her if she wanted to see my pics? And she said yeah so i sent teh virus to her and now i have control over her computer mwuahwua.

how come you're still feeling happy when you already knew about this? :huh:
but, that's very clever. just kick out everyone who's trying to mess with you.



View Postdingdong, on Feb 7 2008, 10:15 PM, said:

Well I donno. I just 'developed' a new tip. LOL

If you ahve a password and dont want others to find it out while you are typing then do this. If you see someone looking really closely at your keyboard (like my terrorizing twin sisters), just type in a wrong password while they are looking, once you get your hand off the keyboard to use your mouse to click on log in or whatever, they will look up and away. So they would have looked at a wrong password. Now click or press enter or whatever. It will say wrong password or whatever. Now quickly like lightning put in your real password and ta da you just evaded some snoopy eyes.

lol.
maybe i'll just let my husband to choose password for me. because i sometimes can be soo forgotful (ok, many times) -_-

View PostSukayna866, on Feb 8 2008, 06:48 AM, said:

(salam)

*sighs* La Ilaha Ila Allah

So much for being safe on Shiachat. But I still think it is being exaggerated, like Bro. DingDong said it is not right to be suspicious without proof. May Allah protect us from these people.

amin.

Edited by adore2lights, 07 February 2008 - 08:24 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2008 - 09:03 PM

View Postmmm, on Feb 7 2008, 08:57 PM, said:

Salaam,
I have a islamic question i cannot post here. Can i have your msn?
-mmm
You CAN.

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 11:04 PM

View Postdingdong, on Feb 7 2008, 09:03 PM, said:

You CAN.
But i might take advantage of you :o

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 11:21 PM

I said yo CAN not may.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 12:33 AM

View Postdingdong, on Feb 7 2008, 11:21 PM, said:

I said yo CAN not may.


LOL!  You are amazing bro' Dingdong.

"CAN" denotes ability and many people make the mistake of asking "Can I ..." when it should be "May I ...". This error is also made by people whose first language is English and not second or even fourth(!) like many of us.  :lol:

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 12:07 PM

(salam)

:squeez: Perverts on Shiachat...and I thought this forum was safe...

The best thing is to never give out your personal information to ANYONE, unless you've seen them in person. Even then, its not that safe. One of my madressa teacher's email accounts was hacked by a pervert, and for a long time we thought she was a closet pervert from all the nasty and suggestive emails we were recieving from her (without knowing it was a hacker!)  :squeez:

So please sisters, be ultra-careful on the internet. And dont trust anyone. Better be paranoid than dead or blackmailed.
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Posted 08 February 2008 - 08:55 PM

i think all new member (especially the teen girls) will need to read this one.


There is a growing negative trend amongst youth in the muslim community. This problem has to be dealt with through vigilance and broad awareness of a serious social issue. Teenagers in particular, especially females, are falling into errors that causes dire implications for the rest of their lives.

Teenage years are usually faced with the following realities:
1 - Hormonal peak.
2 - Naivety about life (although they THINK they know it all)
3 - Rebelliousness against parents/society, thus the pursuit of a comrade/companion who "understands" them.
4 - Desire to be "cool" and show it off to others and to "fit in".
5 - (Particularly applies in the west and a increasing in traditional communities) i.e. "these things are normal, so must mean there's nothing wrong with it"


How does one fall into error?

Humans naturally yearn for companionship. Allah (swt) created us as social beings having fondness for communal interaction. This fundamental aspect of human creation, leads a person (who's reached puberty) to hope for that companion to come, who will share their lives together, etc, etc, etc. If an individual walks into another person's life, and they seem to have the character of the companion one is hoping for, thus starts the first stage, a critical stage, where a person may be exposed to their desires. There is nothing wrong with having such feelings, as previously mentioned, it's humanly natural and without it, who would want to have a family and continue humanity? However, where the problem arises, is how these feelings are approached and dealt with. One falls victim to natural human instinct. It's an instinct in all, but it must be controlled in a way such that it's advantageous for the person. Imam Ali  explains "One who rushes madly after inordinate desire, runs the risk of encountering destruction and death." This is where one must be cautious, alert and vigilant - being most aware of how to deal with these desires in a proper manner.


Allowing a relationship to start

The relationship starts when there's communication between the couple. This communication is the next critical step. We know the famous hadith of Rasool  about two individuals of opposite genders being alone, i.e. "shaytan is the third". This can be simply through a discussion over the phone or even in a chat room.

What occurs at this stage?
1 - natural human instinct kicks in. Thoughts of, e.g. living together with the other person and all those "dreams", etc.
2 - a growing fondness, for exposure makes the heart grow fonder.
3 - as time progresses, more conversations are heald, the couple are more comfortable with each other, new and personal things start to be discussed - the attachment has been built.

Attachment is a most concerning stage. Some people would call it "love" depending on the debate about what "true love" is.


Why is attachment concerning?

Firstly, if a person is attached, they are just that, attached, and find it very difficult to get out of the "trap" and walk away.

Secondly, the mind starts to justify the relationship. The mind is clouded by "love" and realistic judgements aren't made. E.g. "it doesn't matter if this person's like that, i "love them." The mind starts to think short-term instead of long-term. Due to this problem, Imam Sadiq  says "Love the one you marry, don't marry the one you love." That is, be rational in your thinking BEFORE any relationship, not try to justify the wrongs after an attachment has occurred.

Thirdly, unrealistic dreams have built up in their minds. E.g. "we're going to live happily ever after", "nothing can go wrong now", "insha'Allah we'll let our parents know soon", "everything will be fine", "i really care for them", "we're nearly married anyway", "we love each other like romeo and juliette" etc. Reality proves, and statistically speaking, 95% of high school couples don't end up getting married and new partners are usually found.

Fourthly, due to the above point, the errors occur, e.g. a haram physical relationship.


Religious justification of the relationship

Some muslims feel guilty about what they're doing, and they try to find ways around it, so that in their mind, they can justify their acts as being halal, whereas in reality, it's not. As sis Hajar mentioned HERE, some sisters
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had secret mutahs or have done zina. Usually it's a secret mutah, that not even the girls family know about. The mutahs are usually not valid, since the girls are very young and under the care of their fathers and usually in the taqlid of a Mujtahid that requires the father's permission. Later the girls inevitably regret what has happened.
This, again, is a shortfall of attachment and having fallen to one's desires. Their minds are clouded and not thinking straight, reasonably, rationally or logically. By then it's too late, damage has been done, and if regret is felt, the process of tawbah, etc has begun. For females, the damage is much worse. As sis Hajar also mentioned
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the reality of society is less burden falls on the male if he falls into error than on the female.
The reality of the akhira is the punishment is the same for both parties, and under Islamic law, punishment for any wrong doing should be the same (surah nour 1-10), but how many people really truly worry about the akhira as much as they should be doing?


Critique of the couple.

Females, generally speaking, long for true relationships, a family home, etc. So when getting into the attachment, that's what's on their minds. Males on the other hand, their minds are usually along the lines of, "I can't wait for the wedding night". This is a reality that must be understood. As youth, the guy would make false or flawed promises (whether out of naivety and ignorance or otherwise) and the girl would believe it (also out of naivety and ignorance). Both need a reality check. This belief however forms a cornerstone to committing the error, i.e. by thinking "everything will be O.K.", however no one knows what the future holds. Again, most of the onus of the consequences will fall on the female, they particularly have to be most careful, SISTERS BEWARE, DON'T FALL INTO THE TRAP !!!


What needs to be done, which approach should be taken?

If the "couple" really did care for each other, the approach of the relationship would be fully in accordance to Islamic Law and would proceed in an Islamic manner. Those who really care, care for the akhira.

The first and foremost point that needs to be made, is the importance of PARENTS from the very BEGINNING. This is highlighted by the necessity for sisters to get the father's permission for marriage, so the above situations don't occur. Parents have had the expertise and experience. Their minds aren't clouded by "attachment". Their roll is invaluable. If the couple were serious about a true relationship, each would consult their parents early on.

Recognition of what's occurring. Know if attachment is happening, know about how desires kick in etc. "The intellect is better than desire, for the intellect makes you a king over your destiny, and desire makes you a slave of your destiny." – Imam Ali .

Don't be fooled by "religiousness". Actions speak louder than words. Just because a person may portray themselves as religious and have religious knowledge, their actions and deeds conflict with what they preach. Acting on religious knowledge is all important. The Prophet  explains that part of true knowledge "is to practice according to what you have learnt." There are sayyids and shekhs out there that are corrupt, and have memorized the qur'an. Imam Khomaini  say "There are some sayyids not worth the black turban they have on their head."

The best protection is prevention. Prevent it from happening in the first place, and if you feel the situation is slipping and their could be attachment, walk away. Islam and our uluma' offer the best advice, that's why mixing of genders in private is ill-advised.

Be patient, formal, serious, mature and think logically with reason and rationale about this issue.

As a side note, on the issue of divorce. These days (particularly in the west), divorce is all too common. In fact, as high as two-thirds of couples get divorced within the first two years of marriage. This has prompted many westerners to live in a de-facto relationship, saying "why do I have to get married, since it's easy to get a divorce anyway". They don't see the significance of divorce or the sanctity of a proper marriage. Oprah even had a show on how to make divorce easier and stay friends with your ex. Figure that one out.

Hold true to the love of the Ma'soomeen . Only then would you really care about living true Islam.

If anyone needs further explanations of any of the points mentioned above, please let sis Hajar or I know.

wassalam


i just found it in this link, just in case you want to recheck

http://www.shiachat....showtopic=53069

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 09:06 PM

look how a person can be so sick. this sick person was targetting the married women, the mothers :wacko: . check this link and do read post #9

http://www.shiachat....topic=234940283

be extra vigilant!
may Allah protect us all.

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 02:13 AM

^HOLY crap. YIIIkES. And I thought Mohsin_k was genuine (even though a bit odd). MAn this is scary.

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Posted 10 February 2008 - 05:33 AM

View Postadore2lights, on Feb 9 2008, 01:55 AM, said:

i think all new member (especially the teen girls) will need to read this one.


There is a growing negative trend amongst youth in the muslim community. This problem has to be dealt with through vigilance and broad awareness of a serious social issue. Teenagers in particular, especially females, are falling into errors that causes dire implications for the rest of their lives.

Teenage years are usually faced with the following realities:
1 - Hormonal peak.
2 - Naivety about life (although they THINK they know it all)
3 - Rebelliousness against parents/society, thus the pursuit of a comrade/companion who "understands" them.
4 - Desire to be "cool" and show it off to others and to "fit in".
5 - (Particularly applies in the west and a increasing in traditional communities) i.e. "these things are normal, so must mean there's nothing wrong with it"

Been there, done that. Once burnt, twice shy and all that. Take it from someone who knows, all of the above? It's so not worth it. I just hope that just like my mother has, Allah (SWT) too will forgive me for my ignorance and arrogance inshAllah. Goos post, sister.
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Posted 10 February 2008 - 07:05 PM

There is a nasty perv lurking the forums right now. i dont know WHY he's still allowed to be here etiher. So I say be careful now... becauset his guy is crazy sick.
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 07:17 AM

spam can happen and what else.......

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 04:12 PM

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Oh sisters.....wish I had known about this. Salaam alaykum btw, I am pretty new in here.


I made such a newbie mistake, of putting up my msn on my profile; I thought it was obligatory when I registered.... :S In any case, within two days of being here someone contacted me on msn and sounded like he was a sincere brother who really just was going to answer questions about Shi'a for me....well within one day this brother started using bad language with me (I will spare the details; such words ought to be completely unknown to all the Ummah....sadly we are very weak :( )

Needless to say I blocked the brother. Sadly. I rebuked him, reminding him that surely he would never allow a brother to be so rude towards his own mother or sister. Ya rab....may we all merit to see this Ummah in a state of strong imaan and grace. Ameen!


Salaam alaykum,

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PS: Yes. I did remove my email address...
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 08:39 PM

^good call :)

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 07:11 AM

Post #60 is extremely good, for youngsters.

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 05:49 PM

wow thanks

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 05:33 PM

I never give my msn away
seriously who does that?--lol

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 12:09 PM

Pretty wierd reading this on your first day here :S
Lol, hope I never have to go through any such cases. I don't put up my contact info on the internet anyways.
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 02:26 PM

u know what would be cool? a name and shame list of all the pervs on shiachat, i wanna know who these desperate guys/girls are lol

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Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from Hammad from Hariz from Fudayl ibn Yasar who has said the following:

"I asked abu 'Abd Allah, recipient of divine supreme covenant, 'Are love and hate part of belief?' The Imam asked, 'Is belief anything but love and hate?'

Source: Al Kafi Volume 2 Page 125


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Posted 14 April 2008 - 03:00 PM

View Postmaula dha mallang, on Apr 14 2008, 03:26 PM, said:

u know what would be cool? a name and shame list of all the pervs on shiachat, i wanna know who these desperate guys/girls are lol
OMG how about a shiachat sex offenders list

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 03:05 PM

If someone got falsely accused.. that would be the harshest thing ever. -_-

Actually.. I know someone on here who got falsely accused.. the poor girl doesnt even come on here any more. And she was only on here to learn, man. :squeez:
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 03:38 PM

*shrugs* thought it was about time shiachat had its first witch hunt/ mob law

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Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from Hammad from Hariz from Fudayl ibn Yasar who has said the following:

"I asked abu 'Abd Allah, recipient of divine supreme covenant, 'Are love and hate part of belief?' The Imam asked, 'Is belief anything but love and hate?'

Source: Al Kafi Volume 2 Page 125


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Posted 15 April 2008 - 10:38 AM

View Postmaula dha mallang, on Apr 14 2008, 09:38 PM, said:

*shrugs* thought it was about time shiachat had its first witch hunt/ mob law

:lol:

Witch hunt LOL
Avarice is disgrace; cowardice is a defect; poverty often disables an intelligent man from arguing his case; a poor man is a stranger in his own town; misfortune and helplessness are calamities; patience is a kind of bravery; to sever attachments with the wicked world is the greatest wealth; and piety is the best weapon of defense.

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 09:48 PM

after we hunt them then what??



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