Unfortunately Because am working too many hours these days I cant read things properly.
I had a quick scan and we should focus on the topics of disagreement and forget about the characters and who said what .
I advise the people of the opposing belief to do the same.... as imam ali said " truth is not marked by individuals ,,,, "
" listen to what is being said rather than who is saying it"
the paragraph that was taken out of context and misudnerstood which i wanted to clarify is:
If i had money it will be a religious obligation and Duty on me to hire prostitutes for mut3a all the time or a better choice would probably be to just buy a woman from poor countries.
I am talking about a situation of facing potential sin due to the lack of marriage or falling into sins, which makes the muta with prostitute a lesser of two evils.
Its allowed but makrooh
but the potential sins of watching nudity or other marriage related sins are actually haraam
so any sane person would chose makrooh
if thats thier only reaklistic choices.
You are religiously prohibited to forsake a makrooh
which saves you from haraam .
When I said "all the time
" I wasnt encouraging people to do the makrooh excessively but I was referring to it being a regular alterantive solution at all the times
that you face such situations. i.e. everytime you are at risk of sommiting haraam ...
I dont agree with excessivenes in anything and thats one of the reasons i disagree with nicknames like muta king if they would give the meaning of excessiveness in muta.
I am talking about needs here and not about excess and israf (wastage).
When I talked about a better choice being buying a girl from a poor country
i am not referring to human trafficking
and all these false accusations....
My point was
That ideally I wanted marriage with wife/wives where our ideologies are in harmony and hence a good match but the situation didnt offer that ideal so the less ideal was to go for materialistic women
and to me materialistic women are bought not married
this is my openion but i can explain it .......
A woman whom you can only win her heart by buying her an expensive diamond ring or a huge dowry, a brand bag or whatever. are you really marrying her or buying her ???? or bribing? you make your own choice......
I say buying because a human who only looks for materialistic things can be bought by those materials.
So I was poor and couldnt afford to buy/bribe
any materialistic girl from the rich countries (as thier demands are high and i wanted to minimize the wastage) so I said buy from the poor country
My idea by the word BUY
is to highlight the frustration about the lack of the ideal female match who would ideologically be in harmouny with what i belived islam is about and hence I have to resort to the less ideal situation in order to save myself from bigger sins by either indulging in makrooh or buying (the superficial materialistic marriage)
so how did this turn into a human trafficking ring i dont know???
Lebanese princes is and example of the type of people that value materalism highly and thats why she labeled herself a princess
because she enjoys the egotistical
self centered feeling that boosts the ego and fills the emptiness.
Not only that but also she is suffering from another self vice related to the selfishness and self centrism which is prioritising the nationalist identity
She opened a topic where she was saying different women envy her so I tried to address her problem and told her to stop boasting and showing off so they would stop envying you and harming you ,,,, She took offense and went digging to find stuff to discredit me
I strongly belive that lebanese perinces and the group that support her have problems but they dont see the problems so I try to argue it point by point inshallah but they take offense quickly thinking i want to harm them and not save them from harm !!!!!
regarding sister tranquility:
she had put and invented and unsilamic marriage criteria which was:
men should stay single between the age of puberty (13-15) until they get permenant marriage at 20 or 30 or whatever because that will mean the wife will be the first and last woman in his life !!!!
she said it exactly like this:
"it was worth it suppressing his needs for a few years to feel heaven-like life with a first and last woman in his life". many men married at age 25 or more for the first time and are not gay
she was advocating men supress thier desires for many years (few years she says but for many people permamant marriage is only coming after decades)
That they should practice celibacy in order to satisfy her jealousy and accomodate with the victorian ideal.
I rejected the advocating of celibacy just like I reject the celibacy of the catholic prists and the actions resultign from that.
Islam clearly prohibits celibacy and never tells you to avoid marriage for any reason let alone for the ugliest reason so that your jealuos future wife will be the only one in your life ever !!! ( what about if another woman needed you?? what if you are afraid from potential sin? what about promoting maroof
by practising abandeoned sunnahs? NO dont do your wajib but only satisfy your jealuos wife)
In order for your jealous wife to be the first and last one in your life you have to actually go and commit haraam acts and go to hell instead because if you end up in heaven you will have heaps of virgin hoor al 3een
as promised in the quraan which will make her furious?
what will the jelaous wife do then if you made it to heaven? start conspiracies agianst you in heaven??? No because she wont even be there to begin with because thats not the place for the humans who challange god after they have recived the knowledge and they got certain of it. .
so I was telling sister tranquility that by setting such anti islamic criteria for spouse selection
the girl would be digging her own grave
because any normal man at the age of 30
who claims that he never attempted to get married
and it never bothered him
and that his situation is ideal
then he is one of the following,
1) a liar who has many problems but is discrete about them
2) a sinner who doesnt need marriage as he has no problem with forincation and/or other curruptions
3) an unhealthy human who has a very low desire
so why would you make such people your preference??
It was long time ago and maybe if she comes she would have tasted the bitterness and admits the reaslity after the exposure...
there was a similar case of a girl who was approached by a 30 years old who said " no we dont practise muta"
when he was told to do muta in order to talk to her!!!!
he also claimed that he never was married before and the same nonsense lies that foolish women like to hear
after many years things got exposed
salaam for now