Hello, I am new here and I am not muslim. I had a few questions about the Ayatollah Homeini.
1)I have read from Iranians sources that Ayatollah Homeini married a 10 year old girl when he was 28. Is this true? Or is it a lie? If its a lie, how old was his wife when he married her?
2)I found this paragraph from Homeini's work "tahrir al wasilah". I don't know arabic, so if somebody here could translate I would be grateful.
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3)I understand that the age of consent in Iran even today is 9 for girls (with parental permission). Is this true? If I am wrong, could you tell me what the age really is?
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Question About Age Of Consent In Islam.
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 12:52 PM
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 01:27 PM
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3)I understand that the age of consent in Iran even today is 9 for girls (with parental permission). Is this true? If I am wrong, could you tell me what the age really is?
Age of marriage in Islam fr a woman is based on two factors:
1)Physical maturity (at a minimum, has started menstruation)
2)Mental/psychological maturity - this depends from woman to woman and from society to society
As for Iran, the minimum age was once nine, but no longer. A speaker in Muharram was talking about this issue during Muharram as an example of the importance of the voice of the people in Islamic governance. Apparenty the legislature in Iran, under pressure from NGO's, raised the age of marriage to 17, based on arguments of psychological maturity in a modern society. There was no veto from the clerical establishment. It is the law in Iran now, apparently.
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 01:30 PM
kadhim, on Feb 10 2007, 01:27 PM, said:
Age of marriage in Islam fr a woman is based on two factors:
1)Physical maturity (at a minimum, has started menstruation)
2)Mental/psychological maturity - this depends from woman to woman and from society to society
As for Iran, the minimum age was once nine, but no longer. A speaker in Muharram was talking about this issue during Muharram as an example of the importance of the voice of the people in Islamic governance. Apparenty the legislature in Iran, under pressure from NGO's, raised the age of marriage to 17, based on arguments of psychological maturity in a modern society. There was no veto from the clerical establishment. It is the law in Iran now, apparently.
1)Physical maturity (at a minimum, has started menstruation)
2)Mental/psychological maturity - this depends from woman to woman and from society to society
As for Iran, the minimum age was once nine, but no longer. A speaker in Muharram was talking about this issue during Muharram as an example of the importance of the voice of the people in Islamic governance. Apparenty the legislature in Iran, under pressure from NGO's, raised the age of marriage to 17, based on arguments of psychological maturity in a modern society. There was no veto from the clerical establishment. It is the law in Iran now, apparently.
17? I had heard 13.
I know a girl who recently got married in Iran when she was 16. Hmmm...
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 01:57 PM
yes, i also know of girls married at the age of 16, and mashallah many have their nikaah read in the Haram, so is that regarded as legal? i mean dont they need signatures from the authorities for the marraige cerificate?
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 02:52 PM
Path2Felicity, on Feb 10 2007, 01:30 PM, said:
17? I had heard 13.
I know a girl who recently got married in Iran when she was 16. Hmmm...
I know a girl who recently got married in Iran when she was 16. Hmmm...
I just read this. According to wikipedia, the age of marriage for boys is 15, girls is 13. Not sure how accurate wiki's source is though.
http://en.wikipedia....ble_age#_note-2
Edited by anoldqu, 10 February 2007 - 02:56 PM.
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 09:12 PM
This is prob off topic but oddly enough here in Ontario the age of consenst (14) for sex is lower then the age for marriage(16 w/ parents permission). Apparently you're mature enough for intercourse, but not marriage... :wtw:
Edited by Madre de Zahra, 10 February 2007 - 09:16 PM.
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Posted 13 February 2007 - 11:47 PM
I've heard that the controversial quote that the enemies of Imaam Khomaini
use from the book "Tahrir ol-Vasileh" was not actually in his original book. I don't know much about it beyond that. http://en.wikipedia....hrir-ol-vasyleh
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