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[Mahdiyah]

Salaam Fellow Br/Sr.

Did Mawla Hasan al-Mujtaba ibn Ali fight in any battles for Islam? And if so then who was the Imam at the time?

[Islamic Salvation]

Imam Hassan (a.s) was a very prominent commander in the Battles of his Father Ameerul Mumineen in the Battles of Jamal (Against Aisha) Siffeen (Against Muawiya) and Naharwan (Against Khawarij).
He was also sent by Imam To Many other Cities to Call people for Jihad.

[true_malang_110]

It is a fact that Amir-ul-Momineen Ali Ibne Abu Talib would never allow Imam Hassan and Hussain to fight because they were the Prophet Muhammad's son's, so it was his duty that his sons Mohammad Hanif , the alamdar of that time, would go ahead of everyone.  It is written that the enemies would criticize Moula Ali's decision to allow Mohammad Hanif first to fight and keep both children of heaven back so Mohammad Hanif responded by telling the enemy that both Imams were Moula Ali's eyes and that he was Moula's arms.

And when Moula passed away the Alamdar and first to fight would turn to Hz Abbas and as we all know there was no need for the army of Islam to fight because Hz Abbas would single handling defeat the enemy because his purpose in life was to protect both imams.

Imam Hasan's main purpose was to depict patience and the sacrifice he would make for Islam.  The same goes for Imam Hussain .  These brothers had one purpose in life and that was to sacrifice their lives for us.

[AkbarHassan]

I read a book that said when Hasnain (a.s.) were around 12 or 13, they would fight side by side with their father.

[Mahdavist]

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Imam Hasan as.gif was ready to fight against muawiya, but his entire army had been eaten away by doubt and internal discord. There was no way he could win in a battle on his own. He made peace to save those few Muslims that remained, so the religion of Muhammad (saw) would have people left to call to it.

Its worth noting that Imam Hussein as.gif did not wage war upon the people at kerbala: he was hunted down and trapped for his pledge of allegiance, which he simply refused to give no matter the cost. he repeatedly asked to leave and go back home unharmed, but they refused unless he gave allegiance. many of his companions and relatives had been killed, and he was atill talking and trying to reason with the enemy to show compassion towards the women and children. He did not pick up his sword to fight them himself until he had called repeatedly for followers, and they completely rejected him -- desperate for his blood. He was not challenging the enemy to battle -- he was defending himself.

This compounds the tragedy of kerbala... a group of the best believers on earth, the son of the messenger of Allah (saw) and his relatives, wishing to pass peacefully but being trapped...denied the simplest of human necessities - water - and hacked to pieces and slaughtered on the burning sands of kerbala, just for saying "No".

with salam.

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It is a fact that Amir-ul-Momineen Ali Ibne Abu Talib as.gif would never allow Imam Hassan as.gif and Hussain as.gif to fight because they were the Prophet Muhammad's as.gif son's, so it was his duty that his sons Mohammad Hanif as.gif, the alamdar of that time, would go ahead of everyone. It is written that the enemies would criticize Moula Ali's as.gif decision to allow Mohammad Hanif as.gif first to fight and keep both children of heaven back so Mohammad Hanif as.gif responded by telling the enemy that both Imams were Moula Ali's as.gif eyes and that he was Moula's arms.

And when Moula as.gif passed away the Alamdar and first to fight would turn to Hz Abbas as.gif and as we all know there was no need for the army of Islam to fight because Hz Abbas as.gif would single handling defeat the enemy because his purpose in life was to protect both imams.

Imam Hasan's as.gif main purpose was to depict patience and the sacrifice he would make for Islam. The same goes for Imam Hussain as.gif. These brothers had one purpose in life and that was to sacrifice their lives for us.

Excellently written. Jazakallah.

[Mahdiyah]

Salaam.
Jazaakallah for your replies. Yes every Imam reacted according to the situation they were in at the time thus cannot be compared with eachother because they were all right as guided by Allah.

During the Imaamat of Mawla Hasan ibn Ali were any battles fought?

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

true_malang_110, on Feb 2 2007, 02:41 AM, said:

It is a fact that Amir-ul-Momineen Ali Ibne Abu Talib would never allow Imam Hassan and Hussain to fight because they were the Prophet Muhammad's son's,

Can you please provide more details about Imam Ali refusing to allow the Imams to fight? Imam Ali sent Imams Hasan and Husain and put their lives on the line to protect 3uthman when he was coming under attack during his time as khalifah, although that wasn't a war. As previous members have mentioned, they fought in Basra, Siffin and Nahrwan.

We also must remember that Rasool passed away in the year 11AH. Imam Hasan was born in 3AH. Which means he was 7 to 8 years old when His blessed grandfather passed away. Even if there was a war days before Rasool passed away, Imam Hasan naturally wouldn't have been expected to fight at the tender age of 8.

Badr took place in 2AH
Uhud took place in 3AH
Khandaq took place in 5AH
Hunain took place in 8AH

ws

[maqnouteh]

Mahdiyah, on Feb 23 2007, 08:10 PM, said:

Salaam.
Jazaakallah for your replies. Yes every Imam reacted according to the situation they were in at the time thus cannot be compared with eachother because they were all right as guided by Allah.

During the Imaamat of Mawla Hasan ibn Ali were any battles fought?

No battle was fully fought though there was to be a battle and Imam  AS had actually gathered some of his supporteres to go out and face Muaweiya but he broke the army through the prescence of hypocrites and some ignorant people in the army who turned against the Imam after listening to the rumours spread by Muawiyas people.
The situation was quite similar to that of the battle of Siffin when the Kharijites turned against Imam Ali AS accusing him of compromising..
This has been recorded by various historians including Yaqubi whose report is amongst the most reliable regarding this particular incident especially.

Hope this was helpful

[shobijr]

AkbarHassan, on 02 February 2007 - 01:28 PM, said:

I read a book that said when Hasnain (a.s.) were around 12 or 13, they would fight side by side with their father.

i dont know that maybe ur confusing them with Hz abbas when hz abbas was about 10-13 somone at the battle of sifeen  tryed to attack imam hussein he rushed to the man and killed him Imam ali looked so proud and Hz abbas also fought on the battle field in the battle of sifeen then thought he was ali because of hes deadly art of war maybe ur confused with that?

[md. ammar ali]

labbaik ya hasan