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Some Etiquettes when talking about Religion

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Was Jesus a fan of the rich?  

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  1. 1. Was Jesus a fan of the rich?

    • Nothing Jesus says seems to be anti-rich
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    • Have you read the Bible, duh he was anti-rich
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I’m gonna start this off by telling a story that happened recently. See there’s a chat room that I like to go to, it’s a Catholic site but all religions are allowed. I haven’t been on the chat for about half a year to a year, so I decided to pop in and see how were the people. So when I got on some people were exclaiming how socialism and liberalism was evil and the work of Satan. Now I decided to ask a question, “Wouldn’t Jesus be considered liberal at the time? And didn’t he share some merits of socialism?”  Oh boy, I sure caused a commotion, one person said, “That’s stupid, where would you ever get such a dumb idea from?”  So I decided to list the reason:

  • Jesus went around healing people for free

  • Jesus took care of the weak

  • Jesus was against capitalism (The time he kicked a bunch of merchants out of the temple)

  • Jesus hated rich people

So then I got more hate, but there was one comment that just threw me off, “Jesus didn’t hate the rich!”  Really?

Matthew 19:24: Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

Mark 10:25: It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

Luke 18:25: Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

And there are so many other examples. Now me personally, when I hear someone say that a it’s easier than to fit a large mammal into a tiny thing you use for sewing than it is for a rich dude to enter Heaven, that seems to me (and again, maybe it’s just me) that that person has a bit of a disdain for rich people.

 

Basically the point of the story is to illustrate the ignorance some people have on their own religion.  But if you think that’s all I gotta say, then you’re gonna make me cry because that means you don’t you know me. :c

Now when you’re talking about someone about their religion, I recommend to try not being insulting. Now asking questions is really good, I support asking question. But when you ask a question wait until the person is done before you all of a sudden say, “Oh yeah?! What about this, this, and that?”  Now I feel like in my last blog I talked a lot about people got things about Islam really wrong, so I’m not really going to go into it this time.

 

I just erased a big part here,  I talked about people who believe stuff like “Spirit Science” and stuff related to that nonsense, I don’t mean to bash but c’mon. I erased it because I’m gonna make it it’s own entry.  And as I write this I realize how disconnected this blog entry is going to seem, so I guess I’m gonna end it here.

 

So now the (new) whole point of this blog entry was two things: 1) Don’t be ignorant about something before you say other people are wrong, and 2) Be kind and polite full, it sucks to say but for the most part, you are the face of Islam when you talk to someone. So unless you want Islam to be seen as rude and disrespectful don’t act rude and disrespectful.

 

Final Message: I’m not the happiest on how this entry turned out, it was supposed to be a lot longer but because I realized not all the themes matched I had to cut it short. So expect a couple of new entries this week. And the last thing I wanna do is comment on the last blog’s poll. For all you people who voted for “milk first and cereal,” I don’t know how you can sleep at night, you monsters.

 

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